Tick-Tock looks more like Flip-Flop.

Heeeelllllooooooooooo,

Intel's Tick-Tock "strategy" is starting to look more and more like a
"Flip-Flop" strategy, (in case you didn't get the joke: producing mostly
"flops" / failures LOL.)

All kinds of problems are popping up with their processors.

Bad thermal interface material, to thin PCBs, floating point division bugs
, parallel bugs like Transactional Memory and now apperently something
hyper-threading related in Skykale and then plenty of others.

The low production volume of Skylake processors could be an indication that
these are "beta" processors Though perhaps the volume is higher than
"webstores" report.

Perhaps a more evolutionary approach is necessary where much much much more
generations are generated to fix problems/bugs faster.

Bye,
Skybuck.

On 1/21/2016 4:04 AM, Skybuck Flying wrote:
The low production volume of Skylake processors could be an indication
that these are "beta" processors Though perhaps the volume is higher
than "webstores" report.

Perhaps a more evolutionary approach is necessary where much much much
more generations are generated to fix problems/bugs faster.

IBM is after 7nm ...

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On 2016-01-20 15:04, Skybuck Flying wrote:

Bad thermal interface material, to thin PCBs, floating point division
bugs , parallel bugs like Transactional Memory and now apperently
something hyper-threading related in Skykale and then plenty of others.

This is the same Prime95 bug; apparently disabling HyperT fixes the
problem, but a BIOS update will fix it too. I looked on Google for
"Skylake Bug Fix Performance" to see if someone had tested to see if the
fix reduces performance of some instructions, but found nothing...

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B00ze wrote:
On 2016-01-20 15:04, Skybuck Flying wrote:

Bad thermal interface material, to thin PCBs, floating point division
bugs , parallel bugs like Transactional Memory and now apperently
something hyper-threading related in Skykale and then plenty of others.

This is the same Prime95 bug; apparently disabling HyperT fixes the
problem, but a BIOS update will fix it too. I looked on Google for
"Skylake Bug Fix Performance" to see if someone had tested to see if the
fix reduces performance of some instructions, but found nothing...

Regards,


For the previous bug, you can see what their response was.
I hadn't even heard about this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_TSX

"which resulted in disabling the TSX feature
on affected CPUs via a microcode update"

Paul

On 2016-01-20 23:52, Paul wrote:

B00ze wrote:
On 2016-01-20 15:04, Skybuck Flying wrote:

Bad thermal interface material, to thin PCBs, floating point division
bugs , parallel bugs like Transactional Memory and now apperently
something hyper-threading related in Skykale and then plenty of others.

This is the same Prime95 bug; apparently disabling HyperT fixes the
problem, but a BIOS update will fix it too. I looked on Google for
"Skylake Bug Fix Performance" to see if someone had tested to see if
the fix reduces performance of some instructions, but found nothing...

Regards,


For the previous bug, you can see what their response was.
I hadn't even heard about this.

Nope, me neither, but I don't think I run software that uses TSX (maybe
renderers use it? I don't really run databases).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_TSX

"which resulted in disabling the TSX feature
on affected CPUs via a microcode update"

Paul

Lol, that's the Microsoft fix for everything; surprise surprise Intel
does it too. There's also this: "Haswell processors below 45xx as well
as R-series and K-series (with unlocked multiplier) SKUs do not support
TSX" -- So the good CPUs (K) don't have it. Intel does this with a few
other features; I never understood the logic...

Regards,

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On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 4:17:06 AM UTC+8, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

IBM is after 7nm ...

I think they are pushing **** uphill.
Intel has low yields on 10 nm.
AMD and Nvidia are finding 10 nm difficult.

On 1/24/2016 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 4:17:06 AM UTC+8, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

IBM is after 7nm ...

I think they are pushing **** uphill.
Intel has low yields on 10 nm.
AMD and Nvidia are finding 10 nm difficult.

It's still experimental!

Read it yourself, Your Poi!

Beyond silicon: IBM unveils world’s first 7nm chip
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/...eyond-silicon/