Many people ordering BIOS chips for A8N32-SLI Deluxe

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Let's recap:

1. Asus sells a motherboard with a bios version which does not
completely support 4 GB.

Up to you to do your research and read the release notes and BIOS specs of the
motherboard prior to purchase. You would know which revision supported
various hardware features. There is nothing unusual in field reconfiguring
a motherboard with a BIOS update.

You are definetly pushing it.

It wouldn't have mattered.

Time of purchase: 27-march-2006.

Time of known bios issues: 27-february-2006.

Too bad. 1 year old. Buy an new one.

I still got a motherboard with an older bios from 21 december 2005 !

Not unusual.

See even the reseller didn't know and didn't about the motherboard !

No reason for them to.

2. People with 4 GB of ram want to use all the ram.

Which OS are you using?

What ya think man ? 64 bit os ofcourse.

Wrong. You didn't read the flash instructions, did you?

3. People with the sound problems think maybe a BIOS flash will fix it.

Only ****wits like you.

Oh no, many people do that.

Many ****wits, like you.

Creative labs and others even advice trying to update the bios to see
if that helps.

Of course they do. Blame everyone and anyone. Sooner or later
something will happen and you'll go away. Creative is the *worst*,
BTW.

4. So many people flash the bios.

They are all just schooling minnows.

Sure diss all the other people.

Sky**** included.

5. Flashing 1 million transistors (BIOS size) needs a success rate of
beyond %99.9999.

What no reaction ?

Why do you think you deserve one?

6. If 1 out of a million transistors fails to flash properly, problems
could and will occur. Very strange problems will occur.

The complexity of your CPU transcends your BIOS memory. How often does
your CPU invent itself new instructions at runtime?

What does this have to do with anything ?

Think, boy.

So to me it doesn't seem strange many people are buying BIOS chips.

Thee is no law which prevents morons from flashing their BIOSes because it
is a cool thing to do.

Maybe there should be !

You *must* be a Europeon. You want government to issue a flashing
license? I don't think the general public would understand.

I can also understand an American sueing these sort of companies of
delivering incomplete/unfinished products.

You understand nothing.

You talk ****.

You speak...


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Keith

don't look wrote:

Crap.I've Flashed 100 bios' on several brands of motherboard in the
last 20 years. Not a single one ever went wrong.I blame 99% of bad
flashes on user ignorance.

Only flash I've ever failed was the USR modem for my BBS back in the early
90's, a call came in in the middle of the process.. man did I ever feel
stupid for not thinking about that :X

Best Wishes
Thomas

On Jun 9, 1:21 am, "don't look" don't wrote:
Crap.I've Flashed 100 bios' on several brands of motherboard in the last 20
years. Not a single one ever went wrong.I blame 99% of bad flashes on user
ignorance.

"Skybuck" wrote in message

ups.com...



So you agree as well that flashing bioses is very dangerous.

The more reason for asus to make sure it's not required.

Yet the opposite is true, otherwise no full 4GB support.

Bye,
Skybuck.- Hide quoted text -

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You a PC builder ?

How would you know if they failed if you shipped them to your users ?!

The boards might as well have died a few months later because possible
of the flash chip failing !

Did you think about that ?

Bye,
Skybuck.

2. People with 4 GB of ram want to use all the ram.

Which OS are you using?

What ya think man ? 64 bit os ofcourse.

Wrong. You didn't read the flash instructions, did you?

Clearify yourself ? Or be gone ****wit.

I flashed in dos dumbass !

Bye,
Skybuck.

You're a dumbass.

1. I have used 4 GB successfully with Windows XP X64 Pro. (64 bit os).

What the **** do you think microsoft is using for their huge website ?

2. Dark Messiahs already benefits from 4 GB of RAM.

Bye,
Skybuck.

* don't look:

Crap.I've Flashed 100 bios' on several brands of motherboard in the last 20
years. Not a single one ever went wrong.I blame 99% of bad flashes on user
ignorance.

Exactly. At work I regularly update the BIOS of around 120 workstations
and 60 Office PC, and that all over the Network. Not one flash failure
so far. And I also update my computers at home as soon as a new BIOS
comes out. Never ever went something wrong (I only had one flash
failing, and that was a DLT drive that already had a failure before).

And even ofor the very unlikely event that something does go wrong
during flash, all HP systems at work and at home have BIOS recovery
functions. Heck, even my 10 year old Kayak XU has recovery functions.

As you say the reason for bad flashes is probably 99% user ignorance and
maybe 1% something else (i.e. power outtage, crap hardware, hardware
failure, corrupt BIOS file but even that should be avoided by good BIOS
flash programs).

The retard Sky**** is the living proof that a computer is indeed nothing
for everyone and that it requires more than the IQ of an average office
plant to handle it. With all his stupid excessive crossposting he also
left a very long and remarkable track of incompetence, ingnorance and
stupidity. groups.google.com is your friend, Sky**** ;-)

Benjamin

* krw:

You *must* be a Europeon.

Well, he's Dutch. Please don't mix the other parts of Europe with the
Netherlands

Benjamin from Germany (a country suffering from the very bad and
ignorant driving habits of people with "NL" on their license plate)

* Robert Baer:

Perhaps you should learn the diference between beans and duckeggs.
Your diatribe about flashing is in that category, and i suggest you
drop it.
A BIOS chip will *NOT* allow anyone to use 4Gbytes of RAM.

Yes and no. The BIOS can prevent anyone using the area below the first
4GB of memory if it doesn't support the new memory scheme (often called
"memory hoisting" or something like that in BIOS setup).

Microsoft has a very clunky and bloated program that purports to
support use of 4Gbytes of RAM,and they do not support it.

What should that be? FYI: the only Microsoft OSes that support more than
4GB of RAM and that aren't supported any more are Windows 2000
Advanced/Enterprise server, Windowsxp 64bit Edition and Windowsxp 64bit
Edition Version 2003 which both are for Itanium.

Windowsxp x64 Edition, Windows Server 2003 x64 Edition and Windows Vista
x64 (all for AMD64 and intel EM64T/intel 64 processors) off course are
fully supported as are the 32bit Versions of Windows Server 2003 that
support more than 4GB by using PAE.

And you yet have to show what you mean with "clunky". I was using the
IA64 versions of WIndowsxp, I'm using Windowsxp x64 Edition since it
came out and now I also use Vista x64. Besides the latter with it's own
Vista-specific oddities I see nothing "clunky" on them, also not on
Windows Server 2003.

Other than that, one cannot use 4Gbytes of RAM (with MS OSes).

BS. You can't use 4GB of RAM with *any* 32bit OS that doesn't use tricks
like PAE to circumvent this limitation.

FYI: the reason for that has nothing to do with Windows. It's a hardware
limitation. Traditionally, the I/O address range is located below the
first 4GB of memory. Depending on what and how much devices like PCI
cards are on the system a certain amount (usually somewhere between
~384-700MB) gets reserved by the BIOS for I/O. This I/O space is not
available for the operating system.

Somewhat modern 32bit OSes like Linux or Windows Server still can use
memory over 4GB by using a page switching technology (PAE) which is slow
but works.

Current 64bit PCs usually have a BIOS that shifts the I/O address range
over the upper physical memory allowing a 64bit OS to use the complete
physical RAM. But that requires a BIOS that supports the new addressing
scheme, and it requires a 64bit OS because only these use flat adressing.

The best one can do (and i have tried this) is to have 3-4 Gbytes
installed, use Win2K (the leanest MS OS that will recognize over 2Gbytes
of RAM)

BS. The leanest OS that recognize over 2GB or RAM is WindowsNT 3.1

Besides that, Windows 2000 is EOL'd which means it won't get fixed any
more and already starts lack of being supported by programs and drivers.
And it takes smoking of a whole lot of **** to believe that Windows 2000
is in any way faster than Windowsxp.

AFAIK there is *no* CONSUMER program that uses over one Gbyte of RAM,
because damn few consumers have over 512Mbytes;

Where do you live, behind the moon? Even entry level PCs already come
with more than 512MB of memory, most users probably already have 1GB or
more, and gamers usually already own 2GB.

And yes, there are lots of programs using more than 1GB. Even standard
programs like IE, Firefox, Thunderbird, Office etc. do. Current and even
not so current games like Oblivion happily use all of your 2GB of memory.

Welcome to 2007.

So we are back to beans and duckeggs; you have no need for even
2Gbytes of RAM.

This might be true for your (very limited and outdated) little world.
Unfortunately reality is different.

Beans and duckeggs.

Benjamin

"Benjamin Gawert" schreef in bericht
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* krw:

You *must* be a Europeon.

Well, he's Dutch. Please don't mix the other parts of Europe with the
Netherlands

Benjamin from Germany (a country suffering from the very bad and ignorant
driving habits of people with "NL" on their license plate)

Haha!
Now, I'm almost ashamed of being Dutch!

You are right about the driving habbits though

Cheers!
Marcel

"Skybuck" schreef in bericht
ups.com...
On Jun 9, 1:21 am, "don't look" don't wrote:
Crap.I've Flashed 100 bios' on several brands of motherboard in the last
20
years. Not a single one ever went wrong.I blame 99% of bad flashes on
user
ignorance.

"Skybuck" wrote in message

ups.com...



So you agree as well that flashing bioses is very dangerous.

The more reason for asus to make sure it's not required.

Yet the opposite is true, otherwise no full 4GB support.

Bye,
Skybuck.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You a PC builder ?

How would you know if they failed if you shipped them to your users ?!

The boards might as well have died a few months later because possible
of the flash chip failing !

Did you think about that ?

Bye,
Skybuck.


Oh my God, you don't even know there is a checksum?

I am beginning to understand your problem.
Everything you say is just a tiny bit inaccurate.

You ARE a genius.
You must have invented a real Einstein-Rosen-Podolsky bridge.
Now you've used it to go here and there and you THOUGHT
you've come back to your own reality.

But wait, things are not 100% the same!
Eproms can be flashed without errors,
Asus does make great hardware,
stray electricity is a very very rare and minor problem,
and powerswitches generally work in this reality.

Sorry dude but ehm.. you are in the wrong world!

Good luck in finding a way back to yours.
Marcel