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Old November 2nd 09, 06:58 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Wettlesheim[_3_]
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Default Gateway P-400, Ubuntu?

I have an 1998 Gateway PII-400 that has been upgraded with a Powerleap 1.4
overdrive kit, maximum amount of ram added, Audigy soundcard, 128gb ATI
video card, and a 400 watt power supply. I've been thinking about trying to
use Ubuntu Linux and adding a wireless network adapter card so I can go
online with it to check email, waste time (facebook maybe) etc. Is there a
specific network card that would work well in this PC? Any suggestions for
which version Ubuntu Linux to use? The PC worked really well years ago and
has been gathering dust the last 5 years, it's time to either experiment
with it or get rid of it.
Thanks in advance,
Ron


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Old November 2nd 09, 07:11 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Ben Myers[_2_]
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Default Gateway P-400, Ubuntu?

Wettlesheim wrote:
I have an 1998 Gateway PII-400 that has been upgraded with a Powerleap 1.4
overdrive kit, maximum amount of ram added, Audigy soundcard, 128gb ATI
video card, and a 400 watt power supply. I've been thinking about trying to
use Ubuntu Linux and adding a wireless network adapter card so I can go
online with it to check email, waste time (facebook maybe) etc. Is there a
specific network card that would work well in this PC? Any suggestions for
which version Ubuntu Linux to use? The PC worked really well years ago and
has been gathering dust the last 5 years, it's time to either experiment
with it or get rid of it.
Thanks in advance,
Ron


Ron,

Ubuntu does a good job recognizing Linksys wireless cards. Start with
the latest Ubuntu 9.10, which includes very nearly the latest and
greatest Firefox, Thunderbird, and OpenOffice. Unlike Micro$oft, Linux
development and packaging is very careful not to drop support for older
hardware, altho I'm not sure a current version of Linux would install
and run on a 128MB Pentium... Ben Myers
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Old November 2nd 09, 07:30 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
BillW50
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Default Gateway P-400, Ubuntu?

In ,
Ben Myers typed on Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:11:49 -0500:
... Unlike Micro$oft, Linux development and packaging is very careful
not to drop support for older hardware, altho I'm not sure a current
version of Linux would install and run on a 128MB Pentium... Ben Myers


And Microsoft, unlike Linux will run Windows applications on any Windows
machine (for the most part). Although under Linux, this is all
different. Drivers and applications for one distro, will likely not run
on another. And worse, any Linux update has a nasty habit of breaking
your current drivers and applications. Nice, eh?

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2


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Old November 2nd 09, 09:11 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Bill[_17_]
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Default Gateway P-400, Ubuntu?



"Wettlesheim" wrote in message
...
I have an 1998 Gateway PII-400 that has been upgraded with a Powerleap 1.4
overdrive kit, maximum amount of ram added, Audigy soundcard, 128gb ATI
video card, and a 400 watt power supply. I've been thinking about trying
to use Ubuntu Linux and adding a wireless network adapter card so I can go
online with it to check email, waste time (facebook maybe) etc. Is there
a specific network card that would work well in this PC? Any suggestions
for which version Ubuntu Linux to use? The PC worked really well years
ago and has been gathering dust the last 5 years, it's time to either
experiment with it or get rid of it.
Thanks in advance,
Ron



I was thinking of trying the same thing with an old Dell I have but decided
against it after reading the ubuntu forum.

http://ubuntuforums.org/

I don't have the time or energy to try and learn or grapple with this kind
of stuff, as an e.g.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307019

Good luck
Bill






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Old November 2nd 09, 09:17 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Bill[_17_]
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Default Gateway P-400, Ubuntu?



"Ben Myers" wrote in message
...
Wettlesheim wrote:
I have an 1998 Gateway PII-400 that has been upgraded with a Powerleap
1.4 overdrive kit, maximum amount of ram added, Audigy soundcard, 128gb
ATI video card, and a 400 watt power supply. I've been thinking about
trying to use Ubuntu Linux and adding a wireless network adapter card so
I can go online with it to check email, waste time (facebook maybe) etc.
Is there a specific network card that would work well in this PC? Any
suggestions for which version Ubuntu Linux to use? The PC worked really
well years ago and has been gathering dust the last 5 years, it's time to
either experiment with it or get rid of it.
Thanks in advance,
Ron

Ron,

Ubuntu does a good job recognizing Linksys wireless cards. Start with the
latest Ubuntu 9.10, which includes very nearly the latest and greatest
Firefox, Thunderbird, and OpenOffice. Unlike Micro$oft, Linux development
and packaging is very careful not to drop support for older hardware,
altho I'm not sure a current version of Linux would install and run on a
128MB Pentium... Ben Myers


Ben I may not be as knowledgeable as you, but to say MS drops support for
older hardware is not quite accurate. It is the manufacturers that drop
support and do not supply MS with drivers. I went through two such events
with HP printers and scanners. In both cases MS told me they were not even
provided with generic drivers and HP confirmed they would not be doing it
and I had to buy new machines.

I also had a friend back in the Win98 to XP days that had a nice Canon multi
function printer that Canon dropped dead...no drivers no updates. My friend
cussed out MS until he got to the truth. Canon killed it

Bill



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Old November 2nd 09, 09:24 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
BillW50
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Default Gateway P-400, Ubuntu?

In ,
Bill typed on Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:11:26 -0500:
"Wettlesheim" wrote in message
...
I have an 1998 Gateway PII-400 that has been upgraded with a
Powerleap 1.4 overdrive kit, maximum amount of ram added, Audigy
soundcard, 128gb ATI video card, and a 400 watt power supply. I've
been thinking about trying to use Ubuntu Linux and adding a wireless
network adapter card so I can go online with it to check email,
waste time (facebook maybe) etc. Is there a specific network card
that would work well in this PC? Any suggestions for which version
Ubuntu Linux to use? The PC worked really well years ago and has
been gathering dust the last 5 years, it's time to either experiment
with it or get rid of it. Thanks in advance,
Ron


I was thinking of trying the same thing with an old Dell I have but
decided against it after reading the ubuntu forum.

http://ubuntuforums.org/

I don't have the time or energy to try and learn or grapple with this
kind of stuff, as an e.g.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307019

Good luck
Bill


Those that knows of Linus Torvalds (he is the father of Linux) was
recently caught on camera of giving a big thumbs up to Windows. ;-)

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2...sathumbsup.jpg

And those of us who read his book, also knows he uses Windows a lot.
Interesting, eh?

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2


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Old November 2nd 09, 10:23 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Bill[_17_]
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Default Gateway P-400, Ubuntu?



"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
Bill typed on Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:11:26 -0500:
"Wettlesheim" wrote in message
...
I have an 1998 Gateway PII-400 that has been upgraded with a
Powerleap 1.4 overdrive kit, maximum amount of ram added, Audigy
soundcard, 128gb ATI video card, and a 400 watt power supply. I've
been thinking about trying to use Ubuntu Linux and adding a wireless
network adapter card so I can go online with it to check email,
waste time (facebook maybe) etc. Is there a specific network card
that would work well in this PC? Any suggestions for which version
Ubuntu Linux to use? The PC worked really well years ago and has
been gathering dust the last 5 years, it's time to either experiment
with it or get rid of it. Thanks in advance,
Ron


I was thinking of trying the same thing with an old Dell I have but
decided against it after reading the ubuntu forum.

http://ubuntuforums.org/

I don't have the time or energy to try and learn or grapple with this
kind of stuff, as an e.g.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307019

Good luck
Bill


Those that knows of Linus Torvalds (he is the father of Linux) was
recently caught on camera of giving a big thumbs up to Windows. ;-)

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2...sathumbsup.jpg

And those of us who read his book, also knows he uses Windows a lot.
Interesting, eh?

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2


Sometime ago he did say Linux was heading in the wrong direction and not as
he would have liked to see.

But I am not a basher of any OS. I think free enterprise and development are
important to progress.

Bill


  #8  
Old November 2nd 09, 10:49 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Ben Myers[_2_]
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Default Gateway P-400, Ubuntu?

Bill wrote:
"Ben Myers" wrote in message
...
Wettlesheim wrote:
I have an 1998 Gateway PII-400 that has been upgraded with a Powerleap
1.4 overdrive kit, maximum amount of ram added, Audigy soundcard, 128gb
ATI video card, and a 400 watt power supply. I've been thinking about
trying to use Ubuntu Linux and adding a wireless network adapter card so
I can go online with it to check email, waste time (facebook maybe) etc.
Is there a specific network card that would work well in this PC? Any
suggestions for which version Ubuntu Linux to use? The PC worked really
well years ago and has been gathering dust the last 5 years, it's time to
either experiment with it or get rid of it.
Thanks in advance,
Ron

Ron,

Ubuntu does a good job recognizing Linksys wireless cards. Start with the
latest Ubuntu 9.10, which includes very nearly the latest and greatest
Firefox, Thunderbird, and OpenOffice. Unlike Micro$oft, Linux development
and packaging is very careful not to drop support for older hardware,
altho I'm not sure a current version of Linux would install and run on a
128MB Pentium... Ben Myers


Ben I may not be as knowledgeable as you, but to say MS drops support for
older hardware is not quite accurate. It is the manufacturers that drop
support and do not supply MS with drivers. I went through two such events
with HP printers and scanners. In both cases MS told me they were not even
provided with generic drivers and HP confirmed they would not be doing it
and I had to buy new machines.

I also had a friend back in the Win98 to XP days that had a nice Canon multi
function printer that Canon dropped dead...no drivers no updates. My friend
cussed out MS until he got to the truth. Canon killed it

Bill



You are right. "Drops" is not the right word. How about "excludes"?
Micro$oft has a fixed quota of space to sell on its install CD's/DVD's.
So the hardware manufacturers offer up some drivers, and pay the
tribute. Other drivers are available, but not on the install media, but
for downloading from somewhere.

Then there is the issue of collusion between Microsoft and hardware
manufacturers, especially HP. Just looking at the NT family of products
(NT, 2000, XP, Vista, 7), what rationale is there for changing the
driver model with EVERY new version? Well, you can claim ineptitude on
the part of Microsoft, which is partially correct. Or you can think in
terms of all those expensive pieces of hardware rendered obsolete
because the manufacturers cannot cost-justify changing (or even
completely rewriting) drivers for equipment no longer sold. It's not
that HP kills a product. Or that Canon does it. Microsoft gives them a
convenient excuse for killing products... Ben Myers
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Old November 2nd 09, 11:37 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
BillW50
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Default Gateway P-400, Ubuntu?

Bill wrote on Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:23:07 -0500:
"BillW50" wrote in message
...
In ,
Bill typed on Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:11:26 -0500:
"Wettlesheim" wrote in message
...
I have an 1998 Gateway PII-400 that has been upgraded with a
Powerleap 1.4 overdrive kit, maximum amount of ram added, Audigy
soundcard, 128gb ATI video card, and a 400 watt power supply. I've
been thinking about trying to use Ubuntu Linux and adding a wireless
network adapter card so I can go online with it to check email,
waste time (facebook maybe) etc. Is there a specific network card
that would work well in this PC? Any suggestions for which version
Ubuntu Linux to use? The PC worked really well years ago and has
been gathering dust the last 5 years, it's time to either experiment
with it or get rid of it. Thanks in advance,
Ron
I was thinking of trying the same thing with an old Dell I have but
decided against it after reading the ubuntu forum.

http://ubuntuforums.org/

I don't have the time or energy to try and learn or grapple with this
kind of stuff, as an e.g.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307019

Good luck
Bill

Those that knows of Linus Torvalds (he is the father of Linux) was
recently caught on camera of giving a big thumbs up to Windows. ;-)

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2...sathumbsup.jpg

And those of us who read his book, also knows he uses Windows a lot.
Interesting, eh?

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2


Sometime ago he did say Linux was heading in the wrong direction and not as
he would have liked to see.

But I am not a basher of any OS. I think free enterprise and development are
important to progress.

Bill


Yes! Although as a user of both Linux (see sig) and Windows, I feel I
can speak freely of both. ;-)

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)
  #10  
Old November 3rd 09, 10:52 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000
Bill[_17_]
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Default Gateway P-400, Ubuntu?



"Ben Myers" wrote in message
...
Bill wrote:
"Ben Myers" wrote in message
...
Wettlesheim wrote:
I have an 1998 Gateway PII-400 that has been upgraded with a Powerleap
1.4 overdrive kit, maximum amount of ram added, Audigy soundcard,
128gb ATI video card, and a 400 watt power supply. I've been thinking
about trying to use Ubuntu Linux and adding a wireless network adapter
card so I can go online with it to check email, waste time (facebook
maybe) etc. Is there a specific network card that would work well in
this PC? Any suggestions for which version Ubuntu Linux to use? The
PC worked really well years ago and has been gathering dust the last 5
years, it's time to either experiment with it or get rid of it.
Thanks in advance,
Ron
Ron,

Ubuntu does a good job recognizing Linksys wireless cards. Start with
the latest Ubuntu 9.10, which includes very nearly the latest and
greatest Firefox, Thunderbird, and OpenOffice. Unlike Micro$oft, Linux
development and packaging is very careful not to drop support for older
hardware, altho I'm not sure a current version of Linux would install
and run on a 128MB Pentium... Ben Myers


Ben I may not be as knowledgeable as you, but to say MS drops support for
older hardware is not quite accurate. It is the manufacturers that drop
support and do not supply MS with drivers. I went through two such events
with HP printers and scanners. In both cases MS told me they were not
even provided with generic drivers and HP confirmed they would not be
doing it and I had to buy new machines.

I also had a friend back in the Win98 to XP days that had a nice Canon
multi function printer that Canon dropped dead...no drivers no updates.
My friend cussed out MS until he got to the truth. Canon killed it

Bill

You are right. "Drops" is not the right word. How about "excludes"?
Micro$oft has a fixed quota of space to sell on its install CD's/DVD's. So
the hardware manufacturers offer up some drivers, and pay the tribute.
Other drivers are available, but not on the install media, but for
downloading from somewhere.

Then there is the issue of collusion between Microsoft and hardware
manufacturers, especially HP. Just looking at the NT family of products
(NT, 2000, XP, Vista, 7), what rationale is there for changing the driver
model with EVERY new version? Well, you can claim ineptitude on the part
of Microsoft, which is partially correct. Or you can think in terms of
all those expensive pieces of hardware rendered obsolete because the
manufacturers cannot cost-justify changing (or even completely rewriting)
drivers for equipment no longer sold. It's not that HP kills a product.
Or that Canon does it. Microsoft gives them a convenient excuse for
killing products... Ben Myers


I am a VAR and been selling for 20 plus years to the export market. HP
changes printers quicker than you can blink an eye. You have no idea how
many printers HP will kill for whatever reason and it has nothing to do with
MS.

If there is collusion to kill products I am not privy to that much insider
information, but I can understand it. Otherwise we would still be driving
the Edsel (which may not be a bad idea)

MS is in a no win situation. The more they support anything via backward
compatibility, the more bloated the OS becomes and the complaints and rants
increase. So the question is where do they draw the line and how far back.
They have to work with others like HP to come to a middle ground. MS will
never please everyone and that's ok , but to continually blame them for
everything that is mostly driven by market reaction and direction, is a
stretch

And for the $ in MS that's great too. I and a ton of others ( like their
employees worldwide) have made a tidy sum over the years from their
stock....something the EU and even our government wanted to break up at one
time. But that's another topic.

So we will agree to disagree and sorry to the OP for sidetracking
Bill


 




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