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  #11  
Old June 28th 07, 10:35 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Bill
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"Von Fourche" wrote in message
k.net...


I'm no fan of cell phones but this Apple iPhone looks interesting.
This is one gadget
that I just might have to get more sooner than later.

From what I understand you can surf the net on this thing? Is that
correct?

Anybody think this could really be a gigantic must have item for the
next five years?
Anybody predicting this could revolutionize the phone/computer merger?
Sounds like
this thing could do it all like something off Star Trek.

Opinions?


Yes it appears able to surf the web plus a lot more and will merge a lot of
hardware. It is what Gates and MS have been striving for in the home and of
course when they do anything like that we get the monopoly crriers and the
M$ people out.

But:
Min service $60 per month two year contract=$1,400
Cost of phone $500

Total $1900 before taxes etc etc

I think I will give this a wide circle
Let the gadget junkies pay for the revolution :-)
Bill


  #13  
Old June 28th 07, 10:59 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Tom Scales
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-----Original Message-----
From: Journey ]
Posted At: Thursday, June 28, 2007 12:10 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: OT - iPhone
Subject: OT - iPhone

On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:40:56 GMT, "Von Fourche"
wrote:

It really looks like this is going to merge the phone and
computer. Next step,
merge the computer with TV.


The iPhone is a glorified phone / mp3 player / video player. For
computer functionality, a Palm or Windows Mobile smartphone is a
better choice.


I disagree completely. The iPhone runs a full version of OSX. Not a
stripped down Windows Mobile OS. Therefore, you're running a REAL
browser. PocketPC phones (I have no experience with a Treo) have huge
limitations on what they can do on a website. No Java. No Flash. No
Adobe reader. Limitations of HTML and CSS.

The iPhone will have no such limitations. You can load up any OSX app
and run it.

It's a defining difference for the iPhone.

I'm not getting one, but they are cool.

  #14  
Old June 28th 07, 11:00 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Tom Scales
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill ]
Posted At: Thursday, June 28, 2007 5:36 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: OT - iPhone
Subject: OT - iPhone


"Von Fourche" wrote in message
k.net...


I'm no fan of cell phones but this Apple iPhone looks

interesting.
This is one gadget
that I just might have to get more sooner than later.

From what I understand you can surf the net on this thing? Is

that
correct?

Anybody think this could really be a gigantic must have item for

the
next five years?
Anybody predicting this could revolutionize the phone/computer

merger?
Sounds like
this thing could do it all like something off Star Trek.

Opinions?


Yes it appears able to surf the web plus a lot more and will merge a
lot of
hardware. It is what Gates and MS have been striving for in the home
and of
course when they do anything like that we get the monopoly crriers and
the
M$ people out.

But:
Min service $60 per month two year contract=$1,400
Cost of phone $500

Total $1900 before taxes etc etc

I think I will give this a wide circle
Let the gadget junkies pay for the revolution :-)
Bill



Your numbers are valid only if you do not have a Cell phone or intend to
have a cellphone. Subtract the monthly cost of your currently plan to
make the numbers accurate.

  #15  
Old June 28th 07, 11:20 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
journey
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 05:59:31 -0400, "Tom Scales"
wrote:



-----Original Message-----
From: Journey ]
Posted At: Thursday, June 28, 2007 12:10 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: OT - iPhone
Subject: OT - iPhone

On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:40:56 GMT, "Von Fourche"
wrote:

It really looks like this is going to merge the phone and
computer. Next step,
merge the computer with TV.


The iPhone is a glorified phone / mp3 player / video player. For
computer functionality, a Palm or Windows Mobile smartphone is a
better choice.


I disagree completely. The iPhone runs a full version of OSX. Not a
stripped down Windows Mobile OS. Therefore, you're running a REAL
browser. PocketPC phones (I have no experience with a Treo) have huge
limitations on what they can do on a website. No Java. No Flash. No
Adobe reader. Limitations of HTML and CSS.

The iPhone will have no such limitations. You can load up any OSX app
and run it.

It's a defining difference for the iPhone.

I'm not getting one, but they are cool.


Thanks for clarifying, I stand corrected. Wow, a full version of OSX,
that is impressive.

I think I'll hold onto my stock :-)

At the moment, a Treo with my Palm apps can do a lot more (of what I'd
like it to do). But given what you just said, the iPhone has much
more potential.
  #16  
Old June 28th 07, 11:27 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
journey
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 05:20:29 -0500, Journey wrote:

At the moment, a Treo with my Palm apps can do a lot more (of what I'd
like it to do). But given what you just said, the iPhone has much
more potential.


Much more potential especially considering that Palm has been
mismanaging its business. It has been unbelievable to watch. The
second coming of Jobs on the other hand has been characterized by
superb execution.

I think the Treo's days are numbered, and Palm should have named the
Foleo "faileo".
  #17  
Old June 28th 07, 11:27 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Bill
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"Tom Scales" wrote in message
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill ]
Posted At: Thursday, June 28, 2007 5:36 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: OT - iPhone
Subject: OT - iPhone


"Von Fourche" wrote in message
k.net...


I'm no fan of cell phones but this Apple iPhone looks

interesting.
This is one gadget
that I just might have to get more sooner than later.

From what I understand you can surf the net on this thing? Is

that
correct?

Anybody think this could really be a gigantic must have item for

the
next five years?
Anybody predicting this could revolutionize the phone/computer

merger?
Sounds like
this thing could do it all like something off Star Trek.

Opinions?


Yes it appears able to surf the web plus a lot more and will merge a
lot of
hardware. It is what Gates and MS have been striving for in the home
and of
course when they do anything like that we get the monopoly crriers and
the
M$ people out.

But:
Min service $60 per month two year contract=$1,400
Cost of phone $500

Total $1900 before taxes etc etc

I think I will give this a wide circle
Let the gadget junkies pay for the revolution :-)
Bill



Your numbers are valid only if you do not have a Cell phone or intend to
have a cellphone. Subtract the monthly cost of your currently plan to
make the numbers accurate.


I understand you are trying to show a differential in the monthly rate for a
current user but it will still end up costing what I have shown above. Plus
canceling a current plan may attract a cancellation fee.

Anyway as I said its a wide circle for me as I dont have a cell phone




  #18  
Old June 28th 07, 12:21 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
RnR[_2_]
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:54:12 -0500, Boris Boris wrote:

"Von Fourche" wrote in
nk.net:



I'm no fan of cell phones but this Apple iPhone looks interesting.
This
is one gadget
that I just might have to get more sooner than later.

From what I understand you can surf the net on this thing? Is
that
correct?

Anybody think this could really be a gigantic must have item for
the
next five years?
Anybody predicting this could revolutionize the phone/computer merger?
Sounds like
this thing could do it all like something off Star Trek.

Opinions?




Maybe it's just me, but I've never understood why anyone would want to
watch or do things on a screen so small. Seems we're always looking for
larger monitors, larger TVs, larger camera LCDs...

It may be 'handy' once in a great while, but if that's the case, it's a
high price to pay for convenience for that one time.



I couldn't agree more with you Boris and wondered the same thing !!
  #19  
Old June 28th 07, 12:24 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
RnR[_2_]
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:38:34 +0100, Trooper
wrote:

In article t,
says...


I'm no fan of cell phones but this Apple iPhone looks interesting. This
is one gadget
that I just might have to get more sooner than later.

From what I understand you can surf the net on this thing? Is that
correct?

Anybody think this could really be a gigantic must have item for the
next five years?
Anybody predicting this could revolutionize the phone/computer merger?
Sounds like
this thing could do it all like something off Star Trek.

Opinions?


Surfing the web on your phone is pretty usual these days isn't it? At
least it is in the UK. My past 2 phones have had full web browsing.



Do you really surf the net on your phone that much? How does the
battery hold up?
  #20  
Old June 28th 07, 12:50 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
RnR[_2_]
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 06:27:45 -0400, "Bill" wrote:


"Tom Scales" wrote in message
news:000c01c7b96b$2a0eca00$de01a8c0@t9200...


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill ]
Posted At: Thursday, June 28, 2007 5:36 AM
Posted To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Conversation: OT - iPhone
Subject: OT - iPhone


"Von Fourche" wrote in message
k.net...


I'm no fan of cell phones but this Apple iPhone looks

interesting.
This is one gadget
that I just might have to get more sooner than later.

From what I understand you can surf the net on this thing? Is
that
correct?

Anybody think this could really be a gigantic must have item for
the
next five years?
Anybody predicting this could revolutionize the phone/computer
merger?
Sounds like
this thing could do it all like something off Star Trek.

Opinions?


Yes it appears able to surf the web plus a lot more and will merge a
lot of
hardware. It is what Gates and MS have been striving for in the home
and of
course when they do anything like that we get the monopoly crriers and
the
M$ people out.

But:
Min service $60 per month two year contract=$1,400
Cost of phone $500

Total $1900 before taxes etc etc

I think I will give this a wide circle
Let the gadget junkies pay for the revolution :-)
Bill



Your numbers are valid only if you do not have a Cell phone or intend to
have a cellphone. Subtract the monthly cost of your currently plan to
make the numbers accurate.


I understand you are trying to show a differential in the monthly rate for a
current user but it will still end up costing what I have shown above. Plus
canceling a current plan may attract a cancellation fee.

Anyway as I said its a wide circle for me as I dont have a cell phone




Bill, I'm with you on this one. You showed the REAL cost.

I think having the technology is a good thing but for ME, the cost is
not worth the convenience. Honestly I don't want to surf the net on
such a small screen. Essentially I just want to use my cell phone as
a phone because that's really what I need it for. Of course I see the
technology good for some, just not me.
 




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