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Bit of a historical question: MS-DOS
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 16:36:13 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 16:17:25 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" wrote: On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:37:29 -0600, GreyCloud wrote: In my experiences with MS-DOS, I've never seen 4dos.exe. The only thing that I saw was command.com... msdos.sys & io.sys. Because you didn't buy and install 4dos. It was an independent product. It was a *wonderful* product (although I can hardly remember the details of it, I remember liking it very much). But I do remember once writing a batch file of about 4000 lines! That is a big batch of code :-) I never used 4DOS, so I don't know nothin'. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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Bit of a historical question: MS-DOS
On 6/3/2012 3:36 PM PT, Yousuf Khan typed:
Remember DOS Shell? Yes, but I never used it, by that point I was already using DOS for several years and I was already familiar with the command-line. Ah. -- "We're all ants. I'm a glittery little ant." --Alanis Morissette /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. |
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Bit of a historical question: MS-DOS
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Bit of a historical question: MS-DOS
In message , David H. Lipman
writes: [] They couldn't all be in the root as there was a limit of 64 files in the root. (Yes, but were there 64 of them?) ISTR being told that the limit was 100, and am now wondering whether your 64 was in hex. (which comes out as 100); however, others have posted more comprehensive lists of limits for various media, and I couldn't see 100 (or 64) in them. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Won't you come into the garden? I would like my roses to see you. -Richard |
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Bit of a historical question: MS-DOS
In message , Yousuf Khan
writes: On 03/06/2012 2:28 AM, DK wrote: In , wrote: On 6/2/2012 8:54 PM PT, Ant typed: Nah, we haven't touched QEMM, Extended vs. Expanded RAM ;-) No no! XMS, EMS, conventional memory (EVIL!!), config.sys, autoexec.bat, etc. Oh remember, DoubleSpace, Stacker, etc.? I do. Stacker was absolutely great! But DoubleSpace was horrible. I lost a lot of data due to that one. Yousuf Khan Basically, it put all your files into one file, didn't it? So you could lose it/them all at once if that file got corrupted. And yet, people continue to use email (and possibly news) software that does that (for emails), ... Actually, is there _any_ email software (XP, 7, or even '9x) that stores each email as a separate real file? (In real folders/directories?) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Won't you come into the garden? I would like my roses to see you. -Richard |
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Bit of a historical question: MS-DOS
In message , Ken Blake
writes: On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:26:07 -0400, "glee" wrote: "Yousuf Khan" wrote in message ... I've been trying to remember this, and I honestly can't remember it anymore. In MS-DOS, where were the standard external commands located? The only thing I remember about MS-DOS was that the command.com was located in the root directory (along with autoexec.bat, config.sys, and the hidden files msdos.sys & io.sys). Slightly different names for the PC-DOS version, such as pcdos.sys & ibmio.sys, but otherwise identical. The standard external commands were those like chkdsk or xcopy, which weren't built into the command.com. Was there an MSDOS folder or something which contained these commands? Yousuf Khan As I recall, the default location for MS-DOS (at least v. 5 and 6.x) was at C:\DOS That's what I remember too, but at my age, I don't trust my memory g Perhaps it needs replacing ... mine certainly does (-: -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Won't you come into the garden? I would like my roses to see you. -Richard |
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Bit of a historical question: MS-DOS
In message , John Williamson
writes: Yousuf Khan wrote: On 01/06/2012 4:57 PM, David H. Lipman wrote: From: "Yousuf I've been trying to remember this, and I honestly can't remember it anymore. In MS-DOS, where were the standard external commands located? The only thing I [] However it was always located in the PATH (%PATH%). Yeah, I know it was always available in the path, but was there a default directory created to hold these commands? For some reason I'm thinking that there may have been a C:\SYS or SYSTEM folder or something? Or were they all placed into C:\ the root directory? IME, the closest to a default was C:\DOS. Hold on a second, I'll check. I'll second that. Sounds of distant rummaging. Sounds of cursing as many crates are lifted and moved. Finds and starts DOS 5 based Toshiba T3200mains powered "portable". Lights throughout the area go dim as the EGA orange plasma screen lights up. Loved the description! Blimey, it still works. Now *there's* a blast from the past. Tasword... Indeed - though I don't remember what it was: a word processor? Yup. C:\DOS on the default DOS 5.0 installation, with Windows 3.0 in C:\WINDOWS, and the extra Toshiba goodies in C:\TOSHIBA. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Won't you come into the garden? I would like my roses to see you. -Richard |
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Bit of a historical question: MS-DOS
On 04/06/2012 14:24, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , John Williamson Sounds of distant rummaging. Sounds of cursing as many crates are lifted and moved. Finds and starts DOS 5 based Toshiba T3200mains powered "portable". Lights throughout the area go dim as the EGA orange plasma screen lights up. Loved the description! Bows :-) Blimey, it still works. Now *there's* a blast from the past. Tasword... Indeed - though I don't remember what it was: a word processor? It was. I assume it would still work, if I had an Epson compatible printer to go with the computer. I've also got a copy of Borland Sprint which should still install, assuming the floppies are okay, which was my preferred DOS wordprocessor. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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Bit of a historical question: MS-DOS
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:17:35 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , David H. Lipman writes: [] They couldn't all be in the root as there was a limit of 64 files in the root. (Yes, but were there 64 of them?) ISTR being told that the limit was 100, and am now wondering whether your 64 was in hex. (which comes out as 100); however, others have posted more comprehensive lists of limits for various media, and I couldn't see 100 (or 64) in them. 64. You should expect numbers that have a lot of zeros in binary, as 64 decimal does (1000000), not numbers with few zeros in binary, such as 100 decimal (1100100). Such numbers match the hardware better. It was 100 octal, actually. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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Bit of a historical question: MS-DOS
On 04/06/2012 9:20 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Yousuf Khan writes: On 03/06/2012 2:28 AM, DK wrote: I do. Stacker was absolutely great! But DoubleSpace was horrible. I lost a lot of data due to that one. Yousuf Khan Basically, it put all your files into one file, didn't it? So you could lose it/them all at once if that file got corrupted. And yet, people continue to use email (and possibly news) software that does that (for emails), ... Yup, not that I knew that at the time when first installing it. I just assumed that Microsoft knew what it was doing when it created DoubleSpace. Actually, is there _any_ email software (XP, 7, or even '9x) that stores each email as a separate real file? (In real folders/directories?) Thunderbird keeps all of its newsgroup messages in separate files. But email is kept in a single file. Yousuf Khan |
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