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Old June 15th 07, 05:26 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.scanner
John
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Default Question about hard drives

Does anyone know of a software program that will clone my
existing hard drive to a new hard drive? I have looked at Acronis
True Image, Norton Ghost, pciclone Maxx, HDClone, Ranish Partition
Manager, and I can't find one that will work.
My computer is a 3.06 Ghz Pentium 4 with 1.5 GB of RDRAM, the
existing HD is a 200GB Seagate, the OS is Windows XP SP1. All of the
cloning software either requires Windows XP SP2, or they won't go
above 137GB. The new drive is a 500GB Maxtor.
Everything I try results in an error message. One thing I was
wondering about.....if I installed WinXP on an external HD, could I
run off of it, and use it to clone my C drive onto the new 500GB
drive?
I know this group is for scanners, but I tried to find a group
that was dedicated to hard drives, and couldn't find one. If there is
a group that would be more appropriate, please let me know what it is
so I can ask there.
Thanks for your help....
John
(ps. No, I will never install SP2 on my computer. Everyone I know
who installed it had major problems, so I won't install it. I would
think that when WinXP SP1 came out, there had to be software that
would clone it to another HD, and at that time HDs like mine were over
the 137GB limit.)
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Old June 15th 07, 11:32 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.scanner
[email protected]
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Default Question about hard drives

suggest looking for an "operating system" group - since this is an
issue about cloning a win xp operating system onto another hard drive

alt.comp.os.windows-xp
alt.os.windows.xp
alt.os.windows-xp

these come to mind immediately


suggest you find new friends - everyone i know about who installed xp
sp2 had no issues at all

John wrote:
Does anyone know of a software program that will clone my
existing hard drive to a new hard drive? I have looked at Acronis
True Image, Norton Ghost, pciclone Maxx, HDClone, Ranish Partition
Manager, and I can't find one that will work.
My computer is a 3.06 Ghz Pentium 4 with 1.5 GB of RDRAM, the
existing HD is a 200GB Seagate, the OS is Windows XP SP1. All of the
cloning software either requires Windows XP SP2, or they won't go
above 137GB. The new drive is a 500GB Maxtor.
Everything I try results in an error message. One thing I was
wondering about.....if I installed WinXP on an external HD, could I
run off of it, and use it to clone my C drive onto the new 500GB
drive?
I know this group is for scanners, but I tried to find a group
that was dedicated to hard drives, and couldn't find one. If there is
a group that would be more appropriate, please let me know what it is
so I can ask there.
Thanks for your help....
John
(ps. No, I will never install SP2 on my computer. Everyone I know
who installed it had major problems, so I won't install it. I would
think that when WinXP SP1 came out, there had to be software that
would clone it to another HD, and at that time HDs like mine were over
the 137GB limit.)

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Old June 16th 07, 06:53 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.scanner
Brent Riggs
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Default Question about hard drives

John wrote:

I know this group is for scanners, but I tried to find a group
that was dedicated to hard drives, and couldn't find one. If there is
a group that would be more appropriate, please let me know what it is
so I can ask there.


Try comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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Old June 16th 07, 12:35 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.scanner
Roy G
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Default Question about hard drives


"John" wrote in message
...
Does anyone know of a software program that will clone my
existing hard drive to a new hard drive? I have looked at Acronis
True Image, Norton Ghost, pciclone Maxx, HDClone, Ranish Partition
Manager, and I can't find one that will work.
My computer is a 3.06 Ghz Pentium 4 with 1.5 GB of RDRAM, the
existing HD is a 200GB Seagate, the OS is Windows XP SP1. All of the
cloning software either requires Windows XP SP2, or they won't go
above 137GB. The new drive is a 500GB Maxtor.
Everything I try results in an error message. One thing I was
wondering about.....if I installed WinXP on an external HD, could I
run off of it, and use it to clone my C drive onto the new 500GB
drive?
I know this group is for scanners, but I tried to find a group
that was dedicated to hard drives, and couldn't find one. If there is
a group that would be more appropriate, please let me know what it is
so I can ask there.
Thanks for your help....
John
(ps. No, I will never install SP2 on my computer. Everyone I know
who installed it had major problems, so I won't install it. I would
think that when WinXP SP1 came out, there had to be software that
would clone it to another HD, and at that time HDs like mine were over
the 137GB limit.)



Why not just do the easy thing, keep the old one in, use it for OS &
Programs, and add your new HDD for Data.

Roy G


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Old June 17th 07, 05:26 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.scanner
Roger (K8RI)
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Default Question about hard drives

On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:35:40 GMT, "Roy G"
wrote:


"John" wrote in message
.. .
Does anyone know of a software program that will clone my
existing hard drive to a new hard drive? I have looked at Acronis
True Image, Norton Ghost, pciclone Maxx, HDClone, Ranish Partition
Manager, and I can't find one that will work.
My computer is a 3.06 Ghz Pentium 4 with 1.5 GB of RDRAM, the
existing HD is a 200GB Seagate, the OS is Windows XP SP1. All of the
cloning software either requires Windows XP SP2, or they won't go
above 137GB. The new drive is a 500GB Maxtor.
Everything I try results in an error message. One thing I was
wondering about.....if I installed WinXP on an external HD, could I
run off of it, and use it to clone my C drive onto the new 500GB
drive?
I know this group is for scanners, but I tried to find a group
that was dedicated to hard drives, and couldn't find one. If there is
a group that would be more appropriate, please let me know what it is
so I can ask there.
Thanks for your help....
John
(ps. No, I will never install SP2 on my computer. Everyone I know
who installed it had major problems, so I won't install it. I would


That's unusual. SP-2 has a lot to offer in the way of security and
will handle larger hard drives.

I have 5 machines running and 2 spares. All have XP Pro with SP-2.
None had problems installing SP-2. Two of the machines are Athlon 64
X2 with one being an FX62. One is an Athlon 64 3200 XP+. The two dual
core machines run both Xp Pro and XP 64 Pro with this one also runing
Fedora 7 (LINUX). So far no problems other than of my own making as I
do development work on the two along with quite a bit of programming.

think that when WinXP SP1 came out, there had to be software that
would clone it to another HD, and at that time HDs like mine were over
the 137GB limit.)


I never saw SP-1, jus t installed SP-2 when it became available.
GHOST *used to* clone an HD that you could use. Now if you clone one
you will most likely need to run "repair" which will replace "My
Documents" and Outlook Express which is a problem only if you use it
and the mail can be backed up and reloaded.

I have slipstreamed SP-2 and all of my older SP Pro disks to they
install just like the newer releases that contain SP-2.

Why not just do the easy thing, keep the old one in, use it for OS &
Programs, and add your new HDD for Data.



Unless its failing. :-))
Been there and done that.


Roy G

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Old July 2nd 07, 01:29 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.scanner
tomcas
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Default Question about hard drives

John wrote:
Does anyone know of a software program that will clone my
existing hard drive to a new hard drive? I have looked at Acronis
True Image, Norton Ghost, pciclone Maxx, HDClone, Ranish Partition
Manager, and I can't find one that will work.
My computer is a 3.06 Ghz Pentium 4 with 1.5 GB of RDRAM, the
existing HD is a 200GB Seagate, the OS is Windows XP SP1. All of the
cloning software either requires Windows XP SP2, or they won't go
above 137GB. The new drive is a 500GB Maxtor.
Everything I try results in an error message. One thing I was
wondering about.....if I installed WinXP on an external HD, could I
run off of it, and use it to clone my C drive onto the new 500GB
drive?
I know this group is for scanners, but I tried to find a group
that was dedicated to hard drives, and couldn't find one. If there is
a group that would be more appropriate, please let me know what it is
so I can ask there.
Thanks for your help....
John
(ps. No, I will never install SP2 on my computer. Everyone I know
who installed it had major problems, so I won't install it. I would
think that when WinXP SP1 came out, there had to be software that
would clone it to another HD, and at that time HDs like mine were over
the 137GB limit.)

Check to see if the bios on your motherboard will support large drives.
You may need to flash an updated bios. Maxtor should have a free utility
to clone your drive.
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Old July 26th 07, 05:46 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.scanner
John
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On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:29:01 -0400, tomcas
wrote:

John wrote:
Does anyone know of a software program that will clone my
existing hard drive to a new hard drive? I have looked at Acronis
True Image, Norton Ghost, pciclone Maxx, HDClone, Ranish Partition
Manager, and I can't find one that will work.
My computer is a 3.06 Ghz Pentium 4 with 1.5 GB of RDRAM, the
existing HD is a 200GB Seagate, the OS is Windows XP SP1. All of the
cloning software either requires Windows XP SP2, or they won't go
above 137GB. The new drive is a 500GB Maxtor.
Everything I try results in an error message. One thing I was
wondering about.....if I installed WinXP on an external HD, could I
run off of it, and use it to clone my C drive onto the new 500GB
drive?
I know this group is for scanners, but I tried to find a group
that was dedicated to hard drives, and couldn't find one. If there is
a group that would be more appropriate, please let me know what it is
so I can ask there.
Thanks for your help....
John
(ps. No, I will never install SP2 on my computer. Everyone I know
who installed it had major problems, so I won't install it. I would
think that when WinXP SP1 came out, there had to be software that
would clone it to another HD, and at that time HDs like mine were over
the 137GB limit.)

Check to see if the bios on your motherboard will support large drives.
You may need to flash an updated bios. Maxtor should have a free utility
to clone your drive.



Yes, it should support large drives....it came with a 200 GB HD,
so that's over the 137 GB threshold of some computers bios.
I have downloaded the Maxtor utility, as well as the Seagate
utility, and when I try to run them, they pop up an error message that
says that I need to have a Maxtor or Seagate drive installed to use
the utility. I have two Maxtors drives installed, the 500 GB and a
new 250 GB, but I keep getting the error message. (the 250 GB drive
works fine).
I have found HDClone, and that did clone my old 200 GB hard drive
to the new 500 GB hard drive, but the new 500 GB drive only recognizes
200 GB. The remaining 300 GB is "Unallocated", and I can't get any
software to "Allocate" it. I want to have the drive to be recognized
as one big 500 GB drive.
Anyway, thank's for the tip....for some reason I didn't see it
posted till today.

John
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Old July 28th 07, 11:29 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.scanner
iwouldntknow
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:46:21 -0400, John wrote:


Yes, it should support large drives....it came with a 200 GB HD,
so that's over the 137 GB threshold of some computers bios.
I have downloaded the Maxtor utility, as well as the Seagate
utility, and when I try to run them, they pop up an error message that
says that I need to have a Maxtor or Seagate drive installed to use
the utility. I have two Maxtors drives installed, the 500 GB and a
new 250 GB, but I keep getting the error message. (the 250 GB drive
works fine).
I have found HDClone, and that did clone my old 200 GB hard drive
to the new 500 GB hard drive, but the new 500 GB drive only recognizes
200 GB. The remaining 300 GB is "Unallocated", and I can't get any
software to "Allocate" it. I want to have the drive to be recognized
as one big 500 GB drive.
Anyway, thank's for the tip....for some reason I didn't see it
posted till today.

John


Acronis Trueimage should work. Run the bootable CD utility (Linux based so no XP2
needed). If I remember correctly you can tell it how much space to use on the new drive
or use the full drive.. Alternatively: Use trueimage to make a partition backup to some
directory then restore that backup to your new HD.
Thirdly: If this does not work properly - why not contact Acronis tech support? As an
owner you should get that.
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Old July 28th 07, 03:06 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.scanner
CSM1
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"iwouldntknow" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:46:21 -0400, John wrote:


Yes, it should support large drives....it came with a 200 GB HD,
so that's over the 137 GB threshold of some computers bios.
I have downloaded the Maxtor utility, as well as the Seagate
utility, and when I try to run them, they pop up an error message that
says that I need to have a Maxtor or Seagate drive installed to use
the utility. I have two Maxtors drives installed, the 500 GB and a
new 250 GB, but I keep getting the error message. (the 250 GB drive
works fine).
I have found HDClone, and that did clone my old 200 GB hard drive
to the new 500 GB hard drive, but the new 500 GB drive only recognizes
200 GB. The remaining 300 GB is "Unallocated", and I can't get any
software to "Allocate" it. I want to have the drive to be recognized
as one big 500 GB drive.
Anyway, thank's for the tip....for some reason I didn't see it
posted till today.

John


Acronis Trueimage should work. Run the bootable CD utility (Linux based
so no XP2
needed). If I remember correctly you can tell it how much space to use on
the new drive
or use the full drive.. Alternatively: Use trueimage to make a partition
backup to some
directory then restore that backup to your new HD.
Thirdly: If this does not work properly - why not contact Acronis tech
support? As an
owner you should get that.


If you are Using Windows XP, you should use the Computer Managment to
partition the new Hard to its full 500 GB before running the clone image.

It your clone software insists on setting the partition to 200 GB, you can
still allocate the remaining 300 GB as another Drive Letter.

You get to Computer Management by Start Control Panel Administrative
Tools Computer Management.

When you Open the Computer Management, Storage Disk Management.

You will see all the drives attached to your computer, including external
USB or Firewire if connected and turned on.


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