Nvidia 8800GT/GTS

007 wrote:

PS you might watch your local papers for good deals. A local store
is selling the Asus 8800GT for $249 this weekend. Newegg is
backordered at $299.

Newegg overpriced most of the video cards and monitors. I used to do
all my computer shopping at Newegg, not any longer, you can buy
majority of the stuff somewhere else with substantial savings.

Cool, can you recomend other online shops with similar sortiment as newegg
but better prices?

Best Wishes
Thomas

"Thomas Andersson" wrote in message
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007 wrote:

PS you might watch your local papers for good deals. A local store
is selling the Asus 8800GT for $249 this weekend. Newegg is
backordered at $299.

Newegg overpriced most of the video cards and monitors. I used to do
all my computer shopping at Newegg, not any longer, you can buy
majority of the stuff somewhere else with substantial savings.

Cool, can you recomend other online shops with similar sortiment as newegg
but better prices?

www.ncixus.com has a great selection, great prices, outstanding RMA policy.
Never had an issue in over 5 years and many thousands of dollars.
www.ncix.com if you're Canadian.

deimos wrote:
mcp6453 wrote:

While I know quite a bit about computers, I am certainly not up to
speed on video cards. Others have recommended that my son get an
8800GT or GTS for a Christmas present. The recommended seller seems to
be newegg.com.

The computer is an Intel DG33TL. It supports PCI-E. What is the
difference between PCI-E 1, PCI-E 16, and PCI-E 2.0? Are there any
differences as far as the motherboard concerned? Will a PCI-E 2.0 work
in any PCI-E slot?

How do I know what brand of card to buy? XFX? EVGA? ASUS?

Thanks! Time is running out!


You're pretty much on track with the advice given so far. Problems
you'll run into however include a VERY SHORT supply of 8800GT's. They're
nearly impossible to get for a sane price. Most all of them are marked
up well beyond MSRP.

8800GTS's like my 320MB are plentiful, but the 320MB is being
discontinued (previously available around 315-330 USD). You can still
find the 640MB version and the new 512MB version is around, but in
somewhat short supply.

Depending on what kind of games your son plays, you can get away with a
cheaper and more available 8600GT
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16814130298). These
don't hold a candle to the insane amount of power present in an 8800,
but they're still faster than anything previously in their price range
and very good cards overall.

For games like World of Warcraft, it's complete overkill; but even for
new games like Call of Duty 4 and Unreal Tournament 3, it offers
surprisingly good performance. I've recently replaced my brother's card
with one and he was amazed how well the UT3 demo ran.

Now PCI-E.

The different speeds you see refer to both the PCI-Express slot size and
how much data it can send over it. A PCI-E X1 slot is small and runs
really no faster than an old PCI slot. It's suitable for modems and
soundcards, etc. After that, you have X4, X8, X16. They're all the
same full length slot, but how fast the card runs is determined by the
motherboard. Most all video cards will operate at 16X unless otherwise
specified (or in an SLI configuration). This gives them the full amount
of bandwidth required.

Physically you're limited to the slot size for video cards. The main
difference is full length X16 slots compared to the very sort X1 slots.
Don't buy X1 cards, they're worthless. You shouldn't have to worry
about that.

PCI-E 1.0 and 2.0 are just different versions of the same standard and
2.0 is backwards compatible with 1.0. There is little difference to
you, unless you're buying a new motherboard. All 2.0 devices will be
backwards compatible with 1.0 motherboards. 2.0 simply provides more
wattage to the card.

Please read this article for more info:

http://www.directron.com/expressguide.html

Post back if you'd like comments on a specific card.


Thanks to all for the replies. I just bought the card at the link below.
How'd I do?

http://www.compsource.com/pn/512P3N802AR/Evga_603/

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:25:29 -0800, kobe wrote:


8800 GTS 320 or GTS 640 are older, overpriced, "slow" cards.

WHAT ??????? !!!!!!!!

Quite the anal retentive trap isn't it ?

Mike Phillips wrote:
deimos wrote:
mcp6453 wrote:

While I know quite a bit about computers, I am certainly not up to
speed on video cards. Others have recommended that my son get an
8800GT or GTS for a Christmas present. The recommended seller seems
to be newegg.com.

The computer is an Intel DG33TL. It supports PCI-E. What is the
difference between PCI-E 1, PCI-E 16, and PCI-E 2.0? Are there any
differences as far as the motherboard concerned? Will a PCI-E 2.0
work in any PCI-E slot?

How do I know what brand of card to buy? XFX? EVGA? ASUS?

Thanks! Time is running out!


You're pretty much on track with the advice given so far. Problems
you'll run into however include a VERY SHORT supply of 8800GT's.
They're nearly impossible to get for a sane price. Most all of them
are marked up well beyond MSRP.

8800GTS's like my 320MB are plentiful, but the 320MB is being
discontinued (previously available around 315-330 USD). You can still
find the 640MB version and the new 512MB version is around, but in
somewhat short supply.

Depending on what kind of games your son plays, you can get away with
a cheaper and more available 8600GT
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16814130298).
These don't hold a candle to the insane amount of power present in an
8800, but they're still faster than anything previously in their price
range and very good cards overall.

For games like World of Warcraft, it's complete overkill; but even for
new games like Call of Duty 4 and Unreal Tournament 3, it offers
surprisingly good performance. I've recently replaced my brother's
card with one and he was amazed how well the UT3 demo ran.

Now PCI-E.

The different speeds you see refer to both the PCI-Express slot size
and how much data it can send over it. A PCI-E X1 slot is small and
runs really no faster than an old PCI slot. It's suitable for modems
and soundcards, etc. After that, you have X4, X8, X16. They're all
the same full length slot, but how fast the card runs is determined by
the motherboard. Most all video cards will operate at 16X unless
otherwise specified (or in an SLI configuration). This gives them the
full amount of bandwidth required.

Physically you're limited to the slot size for video cards. The main
difference is full length X16 slots compared to the very sort X1
slots. Don't buy X1 cards, they're worthless. You shouldn't have to
worry about that.

PCI-E 1.0 and 2.0 are just different versions of the same standard and
2.0 is backwards compatible with 1.0. There is little difference to
you, unless you're buying a new motherboard. All 2.0 devices will be
backwards compatible with 1.0 motherboards. 2.0 simply provides more
wattage to the card.

Please read this article for more info:

http://www.directron.com/expressguide.html

Post back if you'd like comments on a specific card.


Thanks to all for the replies. I just bought the card at the link below.
How'd I do?

http://www.compsource.com/pn/512P3N802AR/Evga_603/


You made out just fine. Other than price though . The MSRP for the
8800GT was supposed to range from 199 to 249 (256MB and 512MB versions
respectively). But due to short supply and demand, they're getting
marked way up.

deimos wrote:
Mike Phillips wrote:

deimos wrote:

mcp6453 wrote:

While I know quite a bit about computers, I am certainly not up to
speed on video cards. Others have recommended that my son get an
8800GT or GTS for a Christmas present. The recommended seller seems
to be newegg.com.

The computer is an Intel DG33TL. It supports PCI-E. What is the
difference between PCI-E 1, PCI-E 16, and PCI-E 2.0? Are there any
differences as far as the motherboard concerned? Will a PCI-E 2.0
work in any PCI-E slot?

How do I know what brand of card to buy? XFX? EVGA? ASUS?

Thanks! Time is running out!



You're pretty much on track with the advice given so far. Problems
you'll run into however include a VERY SHORT supply of 8800GT's.
They're nearly impossible to get for a sane price. Most all of them
are marked up well beyond MSRP.

8800GTS's like my 320MB are plentiful, but the 320MB is being
discontinued (previously available around 315-330 USD). You can
still find the 640MB version and the new 512MB version is around, but
in somewhat short supply.

Depending on what kind of games your son plays, you can get away with
a cheaper and more available 8600GT
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16814130298).
These don't hold a candle to the insane amount of power present in an
8800, but they're still faster than anything previously in their
price range and very good cards overall.

For games like World of Warcraft, it's complete overkill; but even
for new games like Call of Duty 4 and Unreal Tournament 3, it offers
surprisingly good performance. I've recently replaced my brother's
card with one and he was amazed how well the UT3 demo ran.

Now PCI-E.

The different speeds you see refer to both the PCI-Express slot size
and how much data it can send over it. A PCI-E X1 slot is small and
runs really no faster than an old PCI slot. It's suitable for modems
and soundcards, etc. After that, you have X4, X8, X16. They're all
the same full length slot, but how fast the card runs is determined
by the motherboard. Most all video cards will operate at 16X unless
otherwise specified (or in an SLI configuration). This gives them
the full amount of bandwidth required.

Physically you're limited to the slot size for video cards. The main
difference is full length X16 slots compared to the very sort X1
slots. Don't buy X1 cards, they're worthless. You shouldn't have to
worry about that.

PCI-E 1.0 and 2.0 are just different versions of the same standard
and 2.0 is backwards compatible with 1.0. There is little difference
to you, unless you're buying a new motherboard. All 2.0 devices will
be backwards compatible with 1.0 motherboards. 2.0 simply provides
more wattage to the card.

Please read this article for more info:

http://www.directron.com/expressguide.html

Post back if you'd like comments on a specific card.



Thanks to all for the replies. I just bought the card at the link
below. How'd I do?

http://www.compsource.com/pn/512P3N802AR/Evga_603/


You made out just fine. Other than price though . The MSRP for the
8800GT was supposed to range from 199 to 249 (256MB and 512MB versions
respectively). But due to short supply and demand, they're getting
marked way up.

Thanks for the link. I just bought the same card from them. Too bad
about the price. Gotta pay to play.

Why? My son's EVGA 8800GT is working extremely well. His framerate went from 30
to bursting in excess of 200, whatever that means.

Marc Desiderius wrote:
I purchased a Nvidia 8800 GTS with 640 meg of memory. I hate it, I wish I
bought an ATI instead.




"mcp6453" wrote in message
...
While I know quite a bit about computers, I am certainly not up to speed
on video cards. Others have recommended that my son get an 8800GT or GTS
for a Christmas present. The recommended seller seems to be newegg.com.

The computer is an Intel DG33TL. It supports PCI-E. What is the difference
between PCI-E 1, PCI-E 16, and PCI-E 2.0? Are there any differences as far
as the motherboard concerned? Will a PCI-E 2.0 work in any PCI-E slot?

How do I know what brand of card to buy? XFX? EVGA? ASUS?

Thanks! Time is running out!