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Old February 2nd 06, 11:09 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.arch.storage,sci.electronics.repair
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hi
any input on taking apart the drive and moving disk arem with heads(
for quantum/maxtor) highly apprecciated..

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Old February 2nd 06, 11:15 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.arch.storage,sci.electronics.repair
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hi
any input on taking apart the drive and moving disk arem with heads(
for quantum/maxtor) highly apprecciated..


Good luck.


OD
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Old February 3rd 06, 12:10 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.arch.storage,sci.electronics.repair
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Which clean room will you be using ?

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Old February 3rd 06, 12:30 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.arch.storage,sci.electronics.repair
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kip wrote

Which clean room will you be using ?


He's gunna need a hell of a lot more than a clean room.

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Old February 3rd 06, 02:23 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.arch.storage,sci.electronics.repair
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The HD may contain very powerful magnets which can be fun to experiment
with. As the others have commented, little else will likely come from your
work.

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for quantum/maxtor) highly apprecciated..



http://ontrack.com/ plus a credit card with a decent balance.

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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage wrote:
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any input on taking apart the drive and moving disk arem with heads(
for quantum/maxtor) highly apprecciated..


Don't. Unless you just want to have a look and breaking anything
does not matter. In the second case I advise to use a screwdriver....

Arno
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On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:30:31 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

kip wrote

Which clean room will you be using ?


He's gunna need a hell of a lot more than a clean room.


Actually, it's an interesting experiment (and one I'd expect to fail),
but:

1) Drives will usually run for anything between a few hours to a few
days after being opened up providing you're careful about the environment
in which it's done. That's long enough to recover data off the drive (but
forget using the drive long term obviously is heads *will* crash
eventually)

2) I'm not sure how much of an issue radial alignment is - won't modern
drives handle the calibration automatically during startup? (and
periodically during use to minimise the effects of temperature changes).
I'd assume that track zero is found electronically, rather than being
dictated by any mechnical resting place of the head assembly.

Head height is doubtless very critical though (even with flying heads) and
for that you would need a lab to set up properly.

There's also the problem of how to physically remove the head stack from
the donor drive - those magnets are *strong* and likely something would
get damaged in the process of removing the head assembly...

cheers

Jules

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Old February 3rd 06, 02:50 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.arch.storage,sci.electronics.repair
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any input on taking apart the drive and moving disk arem with heads(
for quantum/maxtor) highly apprecciated..


How do you know the problem is with the heads?

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Old February 3rd 06, 06:22 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.arch.storage,sci.electronics.repair
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Rotflol. You a rocket scientist, right?

"Jules" wrote in message news
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 11:30:31 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:
kip wrote

Which clean room will you be using ?


He's gunna need a hell of a lot more than a clean room.


Actually, it's an interesting experiment (and one I'd expect to fail),
but:

1) Drives will usually run for anything between a few hours to a few days

Ah, you do this all the time.

after being opened up providing you're careful about the environment
in which it's done. That's long enough to recover data off the drive (but
forget using the drive long term


obviously


'obviously'

its heads


You sure it's the heads and not the platters?

*will*


as in God's *will* or did you make deal with the devil?

crash eventually)


Or die of old age.


2) I'm not sure how much of an issue radial alignment is - won't modern
drives handle the calibration automatically during startup?


Ah yeah, those little servo motors adjusting them mechanically at startup.

(and periodically during use to minimise the effects of temperature changes).


I'd assume that track zero is found electronically, rather than being
dictated by any mechnical resting place of the head assembly.


Lets hope so as they are as far apart as they can be on the platter.


Head height is doubtless very critical though


(even with flying heads)


No kidding.

and for that you would need a lab to set up properly.


Yeah, better start saving for that automatic laser guided
adjusting rig.
And for that laser guided robot that applies it back
into the drive without upsetting 'the adjustment'.


There's also the problem of how to physically remove the head stack


from the donor drive -


Yeah, it is 'obviously' much easier to remove them from the bad drive
and restoring them to the bad drive is 'obviously' a doddle too.

those magnets are *strong*


Especially those that apply the downforce to the heads and in need of micro 'adjustment'.

and likely something would get damaged in the process of removing the head assembly...


Your pride obviously if it sticks to your screwdriver while the heads are
still on the platters, making a Karel Appel impression on the platters.


cheers

Jules

 




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