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how do you ''see'' an Apple Personal LaserWriter 320 in Linux?
hi there people! as part of a ''low cost / no cost'' computing project I was asked to get a few PCs and a few printers connected on a network. the setup is a PC running DebIan (Etch) Linux with SaMBa (as the PC server) two PCs running WinXP SP2 for printing -- there is an Epson USB inkjet printer (R200) and an Apple Personal LaserWriter 320 now the 2 PCs running Win XP and the Epson Inket are relatively new. The PC running DebIan is 4 yrs old and has a 1GHz processor. the Apple laser was acquired some time ago and kept in storage until this time it was attached to a device called Asantetalk by Asante (that device is connected to the laser) in doing some research for this project -- I found out that an Apple laser *can* be connected to a PC using this device -- but all the examples I've seen has a Mac in the network somewhere -- THERE IS NO MAC *ANYWHERE* ON THIS NETWORK I all ready set up the server to run SaMBa so that the printers could be shared along with files. now while I have the Epson printer up and running -- I cant see the Apple laser -- I have a packet-analyzer telling me the Asante the laser is connected to is connecting to the network but the netatalk tools (such as nbplkup) are not showing me the laser itself... here is where I say HELP! (thanks!) FN G |
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how do you ''see'' an Apple Personal LaserWriter 320 in Linux?
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, FrancG620 wrote: now the 2 PCs running Win XP and the Epson Inket are relatively new. The PC running DebIan is 4 yrs old and has a 1GHz processor. the Apple laser was acquired some time ago and kept in storage until this time it was attached to a device called Asantetalk by Asante (that device is connected to the laser) in doing some research for this project -- I found out that an Apple laser *can* be connected to a PC using this device -- but all the examples I've seen has a Mac in the network somewhere -- THERE IS NO MAC *ANYWHERE* ON THIS NETWORK http://support.apple.com/kb/SP436 Those printers were designed to be managed on Macintosh computers using an early Apple utility. Also, that computer connects to the world using LocalTalk connections and AppleTalk networking. That's where the AsanteTalk unit comes in--to bridge it over to an Ethernet network. However, once you've bridged it to an Ethernet network, understand that it STILL talks only AppleTalk--no IP, no SMB, nada. No matter what, you'd have to be running AppleTalk on your network to make any of this happen. There are AppleTalk packages for Windows; that's how this laser *can* be connected to a ethernet-equipped PC. So your Linux box has to behave the same way. Can you add AppleTalk to your Linux box? If so, that AppleTalk will see this Personal LaserWriter 320 immediately. http://www.google.com/#hl=en&num=100...for+linux&a q =f&aqi=g1&fp=82e34627c46f57f4 Whether you run AppleTalk on all your Linux boxes or simply on one box and share that out, you MUST be running AppleTalk. Computer + AppleTalk + a Postscript driver + AsanteTalk box + Personal LaserWriter 320 = printing. You're lucky this is a Postscript box; Apple did go the even cheaper route with some of their smaller printers, and made them the Apple equivalent of a Windows GDI printer (called a QuickDraw printer...wow, you're taking me back here). Nothing but a QuickDraw computer such as an old Macintosh can print to those. |
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how do you ''see'' an Apple Personal LaserWriter 320 in Linux?
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, FrancG620 wrote: the Apple laser was acquired some time ago and kept in storage until this time it was attached to a device called Asantetalk by Asante (that device is connected to the laser) FN G- As Elmo stated, the Asante device translates AppleTalk on Ethernet to LocalTalk for the printer. If you can get any one of the computers to act as an AppleTalk print server, it can be shared with the other computers. I recall hearing of servers having AppleTalk Services turned on, and about AppleTalk cards being required in other cases. One problem I've encountered with AppleTalk over Ethernet, is that some network devices do not pass AppleTalk. For example, I have a wireless network set up just for printing. Some wireless (WiFi) routers I tried would not pass AppleTalk between their Ethernet LAN port and wireless. It was necessary to try several before finding ones that would. If you can connect the Asante device directly to a second Ethernet port on the server, you shouldn't have any such communications problem. With the needed AppleTalk hardware or software installed, other computers can then share over Ethernet as long as they have a PostScript printer driver. Fred |
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how do you ''see'' an Apple Personal LaserWriter 320 in Linux?
"FrancG620" wrote in message ... hi there people! as part of a ''low cost / no cost'' computing project I was asked to get a few PCs and a few printers connected on a network. the setup is a PC running DebIan (Etch) Linux with SaMBa (as the PC server) two PCs running WinXP SP2 for printing -- there is an Epson USB inkjet printer (R200) and an Apple Personal LaserWriter 320 now the 2 PCs running Win XP and the Epson Inket are relatively new. The PC running DebIan is 4 yrs old and has a 1GHz processor. the Apple laser was acquired some time ago and kept in storage until this time it was attached to a device called Asantetalk by Asante (that device is connected to the laser) in doing some research for this project -- I found out that an Apple laser *can* be connected to a PC using this device -- but all the examples I've seen has a Mac in the network somewhere -- THERE IS NO MAC *ANYWHERE* ON THIS NETWORK I all ready set up the server to run SaMBa so that the printers could be shared along with files. now while I have the Epson printer up and running -- I cant see the Apple laser -- I have a packet-analyzer telling me the Asante the laser is connected to is connecting to the network but the netatalk tools (such as nbplkup) are not showing me the laser itself... as others have mentioned - you have 2 protocol issues to resolve - hardware cabling + software printing http://support.apple.com/kb/TA35778 Apple LocalTalk - physical cabling for devices Apple AppleTalk - networking & software device protocol #1 - hardware cabling - you need to have "something" that can physically connect and "bridge" from Apple Localtalk to Ethernet... This will require some kind of physical "box" or print server device. #2 - software printing & networking - you again need to find "something" that will handle your print requests as some form of "print server".and again bridge from the Apple software world of AppleTalk to Ethernet and TCP/IP |
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how do you ''see'' an Apple Personal LaserWriter 320 in Linux?
you might be better off just trying to get a current small laser printer,
vs beating your head against the wall - Sometimes "free" is just not that easy to do... |
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