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Old March 17th 09, 02:19 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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Default Dell M1210 battery choices - NF343

Son just picked up a refurb Dell M1210 and likes it a lot compared to our
Dell C610's..
It came with the Dell battery - NF343 - 11.1v 53Wh

wondering where to go get the bigger brother, as backup,
and the model number compared to the NF343

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Old March 17th 09, 03:58 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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Default Dell M1210 battery choices - NF343


"ps56k" wrote in message
...
Son just picked up a refurb Dell M1210 and likes it a lot compared to our
Dell C610's..
It came with the Dell battery - NF343 - 11.1v 53Wh

wondering where to go get the bigger brother, as backup,
and the model number compared to the NF343

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it's interesting how battery specs are tweaked
to show more power.... even Dell -

ie -
Dell CG039 battery lists as 9cell @ 85Wh
the "key" is what is used as a base voltage - 10.8 vs 11.1-
which is interesting as most all rechargeables list as 1.2v
9 x 1.20v = 10.80v
9 x 1.24v = 11.07v

11.1v x 4800mah = 53Wh (NF343)
11.1v x 7600mah = 85Wh (CG039)

Other battery vendors -
10.8v x 6600mah = 71Wh
10.8v x 7200mah = 77Wh



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Old March 17th 09, 04:00 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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Default Dell M1210 battery choices - NF343


"ps56k" wrote in message
...
Son just picked up a refurb Dell M1210 and likes it a lot compared to our
Dell C610's..
It came with the Dell battery - NF343 - 11.1v 53Wh

wondering where to go get the bigger brother, as backup,
and the model number compared to the NF343

--
----------------------------------
"If everything seems to be going well,
you have obviously overlooked something." - Steven Wright




Pacific battery doesn't stock it - yet.
http://www.pacificbattery.com/dell_x...0_battery.html





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Old March 18th 09, 01:10 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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Default Dell M1210 battery choices - NF343

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:58:17 -0500, "ps56k"
wrote:

it's interesting how battery specs are tweaked
to show more power.... even Dell -

ie -
Dell CG039 battery lists as 9cell @ 85Wh
the "key" is what is used as a base voltage - 10.8 vs 11.1-
which is interesting as most all rechargeables list as 1.2v
9 x 1.20v = 10.80v
9 x 1.24v = 11.07v

11.1v x 4800mah = 53Wh (NF343)
11.1v x 7600mah = 85Wh (CG039)

Other battery vendors -
10.8v x 6600mah = 71Wh
10.8v x 7200mah = 77Wh


It isn't 9 cells @ 1.2V. It is 3*3 at 3.6V, or in the other case 3.7V. The
quoted nominal cell voltage of Li-Ion cells depends on who wants to impress whom
as much as any clinical arguments.

Using a charge termination voltage of 4v20 (the notation I prefer) and an
end-of-discharge voltage of 3v0, the average is 3v6. Under constant current
discharge the voltage curve is reasonably linear so using the average is a
reasonable approach. However under constant power discharge the curve becomes
steeper as the voltage drops, so 3v7 is more relevant in some arguments.
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Old March 18th 09, 02:34 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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Default Dell M1210 battery choices - NF343


"rebel" wrote in message
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:58:17 -0500, "ps56k"

wrote:

it's interesting how battery specs are tweaked
to show more power.... even Dell -

ie -
Dell CG039 battery lists as 9cell @ 85Wh
the "key" is what is used as a base voltage - 10.8 vs 11.1-
which is interesting as most all rechargeables list as 1.2v
9 x 1.20v = 10.80v
9 x 1.24v = 11.07v

11.1v x 4800mah = 53Wh (NF343)
11.1v x 7600mah = 85Wh (CG039)

Other battery vendors -
10.8v x 6600mah = 71Wh
10.8v x 7200mah = 77Wh


It isn't 9 cells @ 1.2V. It is 3*3 at 3.6V, or in the other case 3.7V.
The
quoted nominal cell voltage of Li-Ion cells depends on who wants to
impress whom
as much as any clinical arguments.

Using a charge termination voltage of 4v20 (the notation I prefer) and an
end-of-discharge voltage of 3v0, the average is 3v6. Under constant
current
discharge the voltage curve is reasonably linear so using the average is a
reasonable approach. However under constant power discharge the curve
becomes
steeper as the voltage drops, so 3v7 is more relevant in some arguments.


huh - math is the same
9 x 1.2v = 10.8v
3 x 1.2v = 3.6v x 3 = 10.8v

the real question(able) issue,
is using something other than 1.2v per cell.



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Old March 18th 09, 11:27 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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Default Dell M1210 battery choices - NF343

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:34:29 -0500, "ps56k"
wrote:


"rebel" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:58:17 -0500, "ps56k"

wrote:

it's interesting how battery specs are tweaked
to show more power.... even Dell -

ie -
Dell CG039 battery lists as 9cell @ 85Wh
the "key" is what is used as a base voltage - 10.8 vs 11.1-
which is interesting as most all rechargeables list as 1.2v
9 x 1.20v = 10.80v
9 x 1.24v = 11.07v

11.1v x 4800mah = 53Wh (NF343)
11.1v x 7600mah = 85Wh (CG039)

Other battery vendors -
10.8v x 6600mah = 71Wh
10.8v x 7200mah = 77Wh


It isn't 9 cells @ 1.2V. It is 3*3 at 3.6V, or in the other case 3.7V.
The
quoted nominal cell voltage of Li-Ion cells depends on who wants to
impress whom
as much as any clinical arguments.

Using a charge termination voltage of 4v20 (the notation I prefer) and an
end-of-discharge voltage of 3v0, the average is 3v6. Under constant
current
discharge the voltage curve is reasonably linear so using the average is a
reasonable approach. However under constant power discharge the curve
becomes
steeper as the voltage drops, so 3v7 is more relevant in some arguments.


huh - math is the same
9 x 1.2v = 10.8v
3 x 1.2v = 3.6v x 3 = 10.8v


it is, only because 3.6 is exactly three times 1.2

the real question(able) issue,
is using something other than 1.2v per cell.


3.6

or 3.7

Your choice really.
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Old April 17th 09, 12:21 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
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Default Dell M1210 battery choices - 9 cell


"S.Lewis" wrote in message
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"ps56k" wrote in message
...
Son just picked up a refurb Dell M1210 and likes it a lot compared to our
Dell C610's..
It came with the Dell battery - NF343 - 11.1v 53Wh

wondering where to go get the bigger brother, as backup,
and the model number compared to the NF343

--
----------------------------------
"If everything seems to be going well,
you have obviously overlooked something." - Steven Wright




Pacific battery doesn't stock it - yet.
http://www.pacificbattery.com/dell_x...0_battery.html


wonder if anyone has landed a decent M1210 new 9-cell battery
from the variety of ebay sellers or other online stores ?



 




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