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NEWBIE: Needs advice on selecting graphic card
Hi,
I recently want to upgrade my ol' P100 classic to P4 class PC. I need advice for buying a new graphics card. I've decided to get P4 2.4GHz on Gigabyte GA-8IPE100-G (865PE chipset). Now I need a decent graphic card for my very tight budget. I'm considering a card with either NVidia FX5200 or MX4000, or ATI 9200SE or 9250. The highest chipset that my budget can get is FX5200 or ATI 9250. Specifically, I'm considering these card (largely because availability, listed by ascending prices): 1. Cardex MX4000 (lowest price) 2. PixelView MX4000 (2nd lowest price) 3. Albatron FX5200 (medium price) 4. Elsa Falcox 925L (ATI 9250) (2nd medium price) 5. PixelView FX5200 (high price) 6. Asus A9200SE (ATI 9200SE) (highest price) I'm not a very casual gamer (meaning: I hardly play games) but I intend to do some (light) 3D works (Lightwave 7/8), and medium 2D works (Photoshop). I want to get the best value for the money. I've read some not very encouraging reviews on both FX5200 and/or 92x0 chipsets. Should I get MX4000 instead (Cardex has the lowest price, and PixelView is on the 2nd place) then wait for for another budget boost (somehow) and aim at higher chipset cards (like NVidia 6x00 or ATI X series)? TIA |
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"Ricky Romaya" wrote in message .159... Hi, I recently want to upgrade my ol' P100 classic to P4 class PC. I need advice for buying a new graphics card. I've decided to get P4 2.4GHz on Gigabyte GA-8IPE100-G (865PE chipset). Now I need a decent graphic card for my very tight budget. I'm considering a card with either NVidia FX5200 or MX4000, or ATI 9200SE or 9250. The highest chipset that my budget can get is FX5200 or ATI 9250. Specifically, I'm considering these card (largely because availability, listed by ascending prices): OK, you should consider a board with built-in video, like the following: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...157-030&depa=0 The money you save (cheaper motherboard, plus no need to buy a video card) will allow you to upgrade to 2 X 256MB of RAM, instead of 2 X 128MB Plus, the Intel Extreme 2 video adapter built into the mainboard will likely be faster than any of the video cards you were thinking of buying. So you get faster video, MUCH faster overall system performance (because you've doubled your RAM), and spend not one penny more than you were planning to. Oh, the Asrock board I linked to above has an AGP slot so you can even upgrade video adapter later, if you want to. -Dave |
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Here is a good budget card:
APOLLO ATI RADEON 9200SE 64MB DDR, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, "Devil Monster 3 Newegg.com $39.50 Both the 5200 and 9200 are better choices than the MX series. If you are going to do 'any' gaming at all, I would recommend the Radeon 9600Pro which can be found for ~$110 and is the most bang for the buck you can buy right now Here is a guide I often recommend for choosing quality, inexpensive components: http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer/...ide-200411.ars They also link to an excellent price search engine that may help you save a few bucks: http://arstechnica.dealtime.com/xFS?...-8IPE100-G&FD= 1717&x=0&y=0 .... as you can see, there is quite a range of prices on your choice of motherboard with Zipzoomfly having the best price. -- Mac Cool |
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Keep in mind that Linux and ATI blows.
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oh no says Ruel
"Phisherman" wrote in message ... Keep in mind that Linux and ATI blows. |
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On Friday 17 December 2004 17:49, Dave C. wrote:
Plus, the Intel Extreme 2 video adapter built into the mainboard will likely be faster than any of the video cards you were thinking of buying. I would have to disagree; I once had the misfortune of using a system with an Intel IGP, and it supported some very odd resolutions, and all of them at a maximum of 24-bit color, making it unfit even for applications that involve only 2D rendering -- suffice it to say, gaming performance was so abysmal that even GLQuake slowed to a crawl with the little 4MB horror. Intel's legacy of crappy IGPs is still with them, apparently, and, although I cannot give a first-hand account for what you could expect with the "Intel Extreme 2" IGP, I wouldn't advise you to have very high expectations with regards to its performance in games. Just a quick Googling, in fact, reveals that it is the opinion of many that the ATi Mobility Radeon 7500 is faster than an Intel Extreme 2 IGP, and that the closest equivalent would be a PCI GeForce 2 MX 200, which almost anyone can tell you is a Bad Thing, unless your taste in graphics doesn't far exceed Heretic 2. I wouldn't expect *any* integrated graphics processors, short of the GeForce 4 MX chipset included with some AMD motherboards based on the nForce chipset, to offer any tolerable performance in games. So then, my advice is to stay away. Stay far away. -- Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information available. - Benford's Law of Controversy |
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JAD wrote:
oh no says Ruel Can't have thoughtful, insightful debate without resorting to childish behavior, can you? |
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what? did you not say you have no problems with ATI / Nvidia via
x'inux? Everything works with no problems....even the AIW tuners and video capture? "Ruel Smith" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: oh no says Ruel Can't have thoughtful, insightful debate without resorting to childish behavior, can you? |
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JAD wrote:
what? did you not say you have no problems with ATI / Nvidia via x'inux? Everything works with no problems....even the AIW tuners and video capture? My problem isn't related to ATi or nVidia. It's a problem with the motherboard and Linux, particularly the AGP bus. |
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My problem isn't related to ATi or nVidia. It's a problem with the
motherboard and Linux, particularly the AGP bus. right , on your current configuration...but on your prior 6 years no problems with nvidia or ATI...at least that's the way i took it. And well, quite frankly I would expect you shouldn't as All radeons use the same driver since the 7500. BTW how goes the TV capture and TV tuner features? Hmmm... Been using Linux for 6 years now, and except for the recent AGP problem, I've never experienced such frustration. You must not have ever installed Linux. So, I boycott those companies that do not write drivers, as best as I can, on both my Windows and my Linux system. Nowadays, Intel, nVidia, and ATi are very involved in Linux, and getting an Intel or nForce board to work in Linux is pretty easy I've been using USB mice in Linux for about 2 years now without much hassle. I even use a USB keyboard. It would be nice to use the extra buttons without all the hassle of hacking the XF86Config file. The media buttons on my MS Natural Keyboard Pro can be programmed under Gnome, but not KDE. Again, there's still work to be done. Here's a good instance of the warped mind of the x'inux project engineer. Lets make a ton of P2P piracy software and DVD ripper/copyright hacks instead of fine tuning the obvious. 6 years? do you know how long x'inux has been yacking about USB support. And still you say today, I EVEN!! 'without to much hassle" wish I had the "entertainment keys functioning". Ridiculous. I don't write code, I wish I had the head for that. I wouldn't be wasting my time on such stupid dead end things as rippers etc.. It would be nice to have an open source system that could integrate with main stream. However by the very nature of the beast, the main stream is complicated intentionally, so its not easily integrated by anything that isn't finger printed and approved. Linux could have/may still save us from this is some way. As long as the intention is to be a nuisance and is run/influenced by small minded unscrupulous people its never gonna make it. RS I am not knocking your knowledge of Linux, I wouldn't have bothered addressing you if I didn't think you knew what your doing. But stop making things out to be more than they are, by talking about the "ideal linux of the future' like its here now. It damn well should be after all this time. "Ruel Smith" wrote in message ... JAD wrote: what? did you not say you have no problems with ATI / Nvidia via x'inux? Everything works with no problems....even the AIW tuners and video capture? |
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