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You asked "Can your router give you a list of the
computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan |
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No, none of those are worth installing.
To access your router, go to start,run and type in its ip address like http://192.168.1.1. The numbers will be the same as your computers ip addresses except the last one will be 1. You may need a password; check the manual. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan |
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Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a
check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
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The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its
Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
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Thanks for the router access method, Terry.
I got there and see several choices and options there. And my son just pointed out that there's a tollfree support phone # on the Belkin box. I'll pursue these before reinstalling WinXP. (I'm sorry ... I just don't remember having to do any of this when I got the NetGear router in 2001.) Nan "tc" wrote in message news:hLDKb.178943$ss5.5972@clgrps13... No, none of those are worth installing. To access your router, go to start,run and type in its ip address like http://192.168.1.1. The numbers will be the same as your computers ip addresses except the last one will be 1. You may need a password; check the manual. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan |
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This makes me think the problem is something to do with Simple File Sharing.
As I can't remember where that leads, I am providing a link with more info. http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_filesharing/index.htm Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
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What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network?
Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
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SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But
it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
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You do know NTFS can read Fat32 but Fat32 can't see NTFS right?
"just checking the obvious that's all" Dave "Whelan" wrote in message ... SEQUOIA is just the Workgroup name ... it's one of several I've tried. But it's always the same, the Compaq can't get beyond the workgroup's name. I've started reading the articles you linked to ... I notice references to NTFS file system. I just realized that this Compaq uses FAT32 instead of NTFS. Could that be a problem? (But then so does the 1998 Gateway laptop, and it can share anything.) Both the Dells have NTFS on their C partition. Nan Back to those articles. "tc" wrote in message news:CPLKb.182130$ss5.178069@clgrps13... What is SEQUOIA? Is this another computer on your network? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... The File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks box is checked too. Its Install button offers the same 3 choices: Client, Service, and Protocol. The Compaq laptop's name is COMPAQ. When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Dells, Compaq appears on the list, but when I click on it I get: "\\Compaq is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The network path was not found. " When I choose View Workgroup Computers from the Compaq, I get the hourglass for 20 seconds, then: "SEQUOIA is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available." Hmm, the final sentence is different. I've changed the workgroup name several times, but no result. Nan "Thagor" wrote in message y.com... Do you see "File/Print sharing in that group? If not, install it and put a check in the box. Then lets see what you have. Also recheck the NAME of the Laptop and make sure it is recognized properly. "Whelan" wrote in message ... You asked "Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address?" I don't know how to look at or communicate with the router. (Maybe it's in the router manual.) Re Optional Network Components, I see something similar under Local Area Connection, View Status, Properties. When highlighting either "Client for Microsoft Networks" or "Internet Protocol TCP/IP", there's a button you can click called Install. Clicking it gives you three choices: Client, Service, or Protocol. (I saw these Saturday but didn't think any of them applied.) Client lets you add Client Service for Netware. Service lets you add Service Advertising Protocol. Protocol lets you add Microsoft IPv6 Developer Edition, Network Monitor Driver or NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol. Are any of those worth adding? The computers appear the same in these settings. Nan "tc" wrote in message news:96vKb.177743$ss5.51264@clgrps13... The 'can't ping by name' sounds significant. You haven't got 2 computers with the same name by any chance? Can your router give you a list of the computers by name and ip address? Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... Some helpful people, Angus for one, suggested many things to try. The firewall is off. I've standardized the login and workgroup names (tried 3 different workgroup names actually, with many reboots). I have connected to the router (at times): a Dell 4500 desktop, a Gateway Solo 2500 (a 1998 model), a new Dell 8500 laptop and the Presario 1800. They all have XPPro except the Gateway has 98se. They can all see each others' shared folders etc except the Compaq -- it can't see past the workgroup name. Angus told me how to "ping": They can ping each other by name and IP address, except the Compaq can only ping or be pinged by IP address. The TCP/IP settings are the same on all (except the last 2 digits of the addresses). What are the "optional windows components? eg: the networks add-ons" that Trai' mentions? Will I find them on the XP installation CD? That might be worth a try! Nan "tc" wrote in message news:MQpKb.44250$Dm.28247@edtnps89... Also ensure the workgroup name is the same as any other computer on your home network. Terry "tc" wrote in message news:xapKb.44234$Dm.26171@edtnps89... It seems to me, if you can access the internet, you should be able to access your network. Assuming you are using a router and the other machines are networking with tcp/ip, what would the difference be? Check to make sure your XP firewall is turned off. Terry "Whelan" wrote in message ... I've just been handed down my son's Compaq Presario 1800 laptop. (I bought him a replacement.) This Presario has never been able to tap into our home network for printing or file sharing (since I installed Win XPPro on it summer 2002. However it can use DSL through our router. This last week I have tried furiously to solve the networking problem, with lots of advice on the Dell message boards, but nothing works. It looks like I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Win XPPro to have any hope of networking it. Has anyone made a fresh start on a a Presario 1800 with XP? Was it difficult to find drivers etc to make it work? I'm not finding what I need, so far, on the web site; it only lists Win Me and 2000. (We did purchase an extended warranty in July 2001... Any chance Compaq would provide support of the type I need by phone?) Nan --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 |
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Trai' La Trash wrote:
You do know NTFS can read Fat32 but Fat32 can't see NTFS right? It's not entirely clear what you mean by that, but if it's what I'm guessing you mean, it's not true. When you connect to a share across a network, it doesn't matter whether the computer you're using could recognize the filesystem that share resides on. For example, Windows 95 and 98 system don't support NTFS, but they can connect to an XP system and read and write NTFS files on that XP system. -Mike |
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