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Printing on custom sized paper
What's the secret to printing on custom-sized paper?
I have an HP Laserjet 5000N connected to a p2p network with a couple of PCs running Win2000. It has a manual feed tray that is supposed to handle paper as small as 3x5. The manual feed tray has paper guides that slide in and out in tandem so that the paper is centered in the tray. The paper sensor (or one of them at least) is about 7" from the right edge if the paper guide is set for 8.5x11 paper. This printer can handle paper up to 11x17. It feeds standard 8.5x11 paper sideways (11" edge first), in case that's significant. I would like to be able to create custom paper templates where the page size is the exact size of the actual paper. I can then set the margins as needed. I would then like to the able to adjust the paper guides in the manual feed tray to fit the paper exactly, which means that it will be centered in the manual feed tray. This is how envelopes work using the built-in envelope settings, but I can't get it to work for custom sizes. When I try this, the printing is off the right edge of the card. To get it to work, I have to set the paper guides for standard letter paper and place the edge fo the card against the right guide. This has a couple of problems. For one, it doesn't always feed straight because there is no guide on the left edge. Also, if the paper is less than 7' wide, it won't trip the paper sensor and it won't feed. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? Thanks -- For email, use |
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Printing on custom sized paper
LurfysMa wrote:
What's the secret to printing on custom-sized paper? I have an HP Laserjet 5000N connected to a p2p network with a couple of PCs running Win2000. It has a manual feed tray that is supposed to handle paper as small as 3x5. The manual feed tray has paper guides that slide in and out in tandem so that the paper is centered in the tray. The paper sensor (or one of them at least) is about 7" from the right edge if the paper guide is set for 8.5x11 paper. This printer can handle paper up to 11x17. It feeds standard 8.5x11 paper sideways (11" edge first), in case that's significant. I would like to be able to create custom paper templates where the page size is the exact size of the actual paper. I can then set the margins as needed. I would then like to the able to adjust the paper guides in the manual feed tray to fit the paper exactly, which means that it will be centered in the manual feed tray. This is how envelopes work using the built-in envelope settings, but I can't get it to work for custom sizes. When I try this, the printing is off the right edge of the card. To get it to work, I have to set the paper guides for standard letter paper and place the edge fo the card against the right guide. This has a couple of problems. For one, it doesn't always feed straight because there is no guide on the left edge. Also, if the paper is less than 7' wide, it won't trip the paper sensor and it won't feed. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? Thanks -- For email, use There are custom paper size settings in the printer. Go to the "Printing Menu" in the printer control panel, set the Configure Custom Paper=YES. This will enable some extra settings (In the same menu) and you can set the custom paper to whatever size you want (X=edge that feeds into the printer, Y=other edge) within the printer Min and Max limits. I do not know whether this will fix your problem but it's worth a try. You will of course have to tell the driver to use custom size paper from tray 1. Tony |
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On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 21:18:29 -0600, Tony
wrote: LurfysMa wrote: What's the secret to printing on custom-sized paper? I have an HP Laserjet 5000N connected to a p2p network with a couple of PCs running Win2000. It has a manual feed tray that is supposed to handle paper as small as 3x5. The manual feed tray has paper guides that slide in and out in tandem so that the paper is centered in the tray. The paper sensor (or one of them at least) is about 7" from the right edge if the paper guide is set for 8.5x11 paper. This printer can handle paper up to 11x17. It feeds standard 8.5x11 paper sideways (11" edge first), in case that's significant. I would like to be able to create custom paper templates where the page size is the exact size of the actual paper. I can then set the margins as needed. I would then like to the able to adjust the paper guides in the manual feed tray to fit the paper exactly, which means that it will be centered in the manual feed tray. This is how envelopes work using the built-in envelope settings, but I can't get it to work for custom sizes. When I try this, the printing is off the right edge of the card. To get it to work, I have to set the paper guides for standard letter paper and place the edge fo the card against the right guide. This has a couple of problems. For one, it doesn't always feed straight because there is no guide on the left edge. Also, if the paper is less than 7' wide, it won't trip the paper sensor and it won't feed. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? Thanks -- For email, use There are custom paper size settings in the printer. Go to the "Printing Menu" in the printer control panel, set the Configure Custom Paper=YES. This will enable some extra settings (In the same menu) and you can set the custom paper to whatever size you want (X=edge that feeds into the printer, Y=other edge) within the printer Min and Max limits. I do not know whether this will fix your problem but it's worth a try. You will of course have to tell the driver to use custom size paper from tray 1. Tony Tony, you are a genius! The setup for my system was a little different than what you described, but I was able to create a custom paper and it worked perfectly. Amazing. I could not find any place where I could set Custom Paper=YES. I did File | Print... | Properties | Paper tab. On that panel, there is a Custom button. Clicking on that brings up a Custom Paper Size panel where I can define new sizes. It offered me settings for width and height, not X and Y. My first was 5x8. Once defined, 5x8 cards can be loaded into the manual feed tray, the paper guides adjusted to hold the cards securely (in the center of the tray), and they print perfectly. The cards feed like envelopes, short (5") edge first, unlike the letter size, which feeds long (11") edge first. I decided to test your X and Y settings using the width and height that I have. I defined another paper size named 8x5 with the dimensions reversed -- width = 8", height = 5". When I clocked on Save, it switched them around so that width = 5" and height = 8". Next, I tried a 3x5 size. That also worked perfectly. These are two sizes that I have wanted for several years. Outstanding. Flushed with success, I decided to see what would happen if I defined a letter (8.5x11) size, so I did. It took it, but it did not feed frpom the 8.5" edge. It fed from the 11" edge just like the standard letter size. I then tried an 8.5 x 8.5 size. That one did print from the top edge in portrait orientation. Anyway, this is just what I was looking for. Thanks so much. Where do I send the 6-pack? -- For email, use |
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LurfysMa wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 21:18:29 -0600, Tony wrote: LurfysMa wrote: What's the secret to printing on custom-sized paper? I have an HP Laserjet 5000N connected to a p2p network with a couple of PCs running Win2000. It has a manual feed tray that is supposed to handle paper as small as 3x5. The manual feed tray has paper guides that slide in and out in tandem so that the paper is centered in the tray. The paper sensor (or one of them at least) is about 7" from the right edge if the paper guide is set for 8.5x11 paper. This printer can handle paper up to 11x17. It feeds standard 8.5x11 paper sideways (11" edge first), in case that's significant. I would like to be able to create custom paper templates where the page size is the exact size of the actual paper. I can then set the margins as needed. I would then like to the able to adjust the paper guides in the manual feed tray to fit the paper exactly, which means that it will be centered in the manual feed tray. This is how envelopes work using the built-in envelope settings, but I can't get it to work for custom sizes. When I try this, the printing is off the right edge of the card. To get it to work, I have to set the paper guides for standard letter paper and place the edge fo the card against the right guide. This has a couple of problems. For one, it doesn't always feed straight because there is no guide on the left edge. Also, if the paper is less than 7' wide, it won't trip the paper sensor and it won't feed. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? Thanks -- For email, use There are custom paper size settings in the printer. Go to the "Printing Menu" in the printer control panel, set the Configure Custom Paper=YES. This will enable some extra settings (In the same menu) and you can set the custom paper to whatever size you want (X=edge that feeds into the printer, Y=other edge) within the printer Min and Max limits. I do not know whether this will fix your problem but it's worth a try. You will of course have to tell the driver to use custom size paper from tray 1. Tony Tony, you are a genius! The setup for my system was a little different than what you described, but I was able to create a custom paper and it worked perfectly. Amazing. I could not find any place where I could set Custom Paper=YES. I did File | Print... | Properties | Paper tab. On that panel, there is a Custom button. Clicking on that brings up a Custom Paper Size panel where I can define new sizes. It offered me settings for width and height, not X and Y. My first was 5x8. Once defined, 5x8 cards can be loaded into the manual feed tray, the paper guides adjusted to hold the cards securely (in the center of the tray), and they print perfectly. The cards feed like envelopes, short (5") edge first, unlike the letter size, which feeds long (11") edge first. I decided to test your X and Y settings using the width and height that I have. I defined another paper size named 8x5 with the dimensions reversed -- width = 8", height = 5". When I clocked on Save, it switched them around so that width = 5" and height = 8". Next, I tried a 3x5 size. That also worked perfectly. These are two sizes that I have wanted for several years. Outstanding. Flushed with success, I decided to see what would happen if I defined a letter (8.5x11) size, so I did. It took it, but it did not feed frpom the 8.5" edge. It fed from the 11" edge just like the standard letter size. I then tried an 8.5 x 8.5 size. That one did print from the top edge in portrait orientation. Anyway, this is just what I was looking for. Thanks so much. Where do I send the 6-pack? -- For email, use Well, if the truth be known you got there yourself. If I read your post correctly you set the custom size from the driver, my suggestion was to set it in the printer itself. Not important since in most cases the driver will overule the printer setting so either way should work. It continues to delight me how well so many HP laser printers are designed, they are able to do just about any reasonable thing that you are likely to need, the downside is that this level of flexibility can also introduce complexity and make it confusing to set up. Anyway the important thing is that this fine printer is doing what you need. Don't bother with the sixpack, I will send a truck around to your place soon; you can't miss it, it has picture of a tiger on the side eating a miserable little troll. If you have any trolls to spare just throw them in the back. The tiger is very well behaved and well fed, she only eats trolls. Take care. Tony |
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Printing on custom sized paper
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 01:26:49 -0600, Tony
wrote: Tony, you are a genius! The setup for my system was a little different than what you described, but I was able to create a custom paper and it worked perfectly. Amazing. I could not find any place where I could set Custom Paper=YES. I did File | Print... | Properties | Paper tab. On that panel, there is a Custom button. Clicking on that brings up a Custom Paper Size panel where I can define new sizes. It offered me settings for width and height, not X and Y. My first was 5x8. Once defined, 5x8 cards can be loaded into the manual feed tray, the paper guides adjusted to hold the cards securely (in the center of the tray), and they print perfectly. The cards feed like envelopes, short (5") edge first, unlike the letter size, which feeds long (11") edge first. I decided to test your X and Y settings using the width and height that I have. I defined another paper size named 8x5 with the dimensions reversed -- width = 8", height = 5". When I clocked on Save, it switched them around so that width = 5" and height = 8". Next, I tried a 3x5 size. That also worked perfectly. These are two sizes that I have wanted for several years. Outstanding. Flushed with success, I decided to see what would happen if I defined a letter (8.5x11) size, so I did. It took it, but it did not feed frpom the 8.5" edge. It fed from the 11" edge just like the standard letter size. I then tried an 8.5 x 8.5 size. That one did print from the top edge in portrait orientation. Anyway, this is just what I was looking for. Thanks so much. Where do I send the 6-pack? -- For email, use Well, if the truth be known you got there yourself. If I read your post correctly you set the custom size from the driver, my suggestion was to set it in the printer itself. Not important since in most cases the driver will overule the printer setting so either way should work. But it doesn't. I have been fiddling with custom paper settings from the Page Setup many for years in utter frustration. They never print correctly. The printer arbitrarily (or so it seems) decides whether it is really a small paper form or just a variation of 8.5x11. If the latter, which is most of the time, then the adjustable paper guides in the manual tray are useless. With your solution, it works perfectly for every size I tried (5-6) all the way down to 3x5 and in both orientations. My wife spent half a day trying to get placecards to print correctly for Christmas dinner. I could do it for her now in 2 minutes. Next year she will have time to make another cheesecake. ;-) It continues to delight me how well so many HP laser printers are designed, they are able to do just about any reasonable thing that you are likely to need, the downside is that this level of flexibility can also introduce complexity and make it confusing to set up. That's it, exactly. It can probably do what I want, but finding the right combination of options and where they are hidden is the trick. Anyway the important thing is that this fine printer is doing what you need. Don't bother with the sixpack, I will send a truck around to your place soon; you can't miss it, it has picture of a tiger on the side eating a miserable little troll. If you have any trolls to spare just throw them in the back. The tiger is very well behaved and well fed, she only eats trolls. I'll keep an eye out for the truck, but I don't happen to have any trolls on hand. They never last long around here. Can I give the tiger a few troll addresses off of a few newsgroups? Take care. Tony -- For email, use |
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