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1600 will not boot
Good Day,
We have an old 1600 that was working fine. It had a 3200 Raid Controller with a raid 1 and 5 setup. OS mirrored with data Raid5. The system was running Windows 2003 SP1 A few days ago out of the blue we were not able to access the network drives. I took a look at the system and found that I could not access it. Monitor was black and blinking with no video. I had to do a hard reboot and all came back up. We had some issues and I thought at the time that it was something that happened and did not pay any mind to it. It happened again a few days later and this time I said Ok this may be a problem. I checked the logs which showed no errors except that the server had to be rebooted. I went into the raid software and checked the drives, everything looked clean and green. Today we had the same problem and this time there is nothing on the screen when I boot. I tried changing the controller with no luck (used another 3200 card). That is when I realized that I was not even getting post on the server. The CD Rom drive would light up and then the drives and that is it. Everything is dark, no activity to the Raid. I am getting power of some kind. So, what is the best way to figure this out as I believe that the system is done for? On a side note, I read a post here about Dell systems having issues with their raid cards could you please give me a little bit more info on this as our company is looking at Dell now? Thanks for your help Adam Raff |
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the HP Array controllers generally dont cause problems (like you are
describing) with the servers. Dell, as you mentioned ...well, thats another discussion. I wonder if you have/had the proliant support pack for 2003 installed on your server. If there is a deeper hardware issue, you would want to look at the IML (integrated management log) viewer ... this is a log in the hardware that can tell you when nasty things are happening to the machine itself. For now, i would try clearing the NVRAM (should be a position on the SW1 or SW2 switches on the mainboard (check the case lid for more information) and try to boot again. Also, check the status of your powersupply. that machine is getting pretty darn old right about now, and those powersupplies dont last forever. - LC -- "Adam Raff" wrote in message ... Good Day, We have an old 1600 that was working fine. It had a 3200 Raid Controller with a raid 1 and 5 setup. OS mirrored with data Raid5. The system was running Windows 2003 SP1 A few days ago out of the blue we were not able to access the network drives. I took a look at the system and found that I could not access it. Monitor was black and blinking with no video. I had to do a hard reboot and all came back up. We had some issues and I thought at the time that it was something that happened and did not pay any mind to it. It happened again a few days later and this time I said Ok this may be a problem. I checked the logs which showed no errors except that the server had to be rebooted. I went into the raid software and checked the drives, everything looked clean and green. Today we had the same problem and this time there is nothing on the screen when I boot. I tried changing the controller with no luck (used another 3200 card). That is when I realized that I was not even getting post on the server. The CD Rom drive would light up and then the drives and that is it. Everything is dark, no activity to the Raid. I am getting power of some kind. So, what is the best way to figure this out as I believe that the system is done for? On a side note, I read a post here about Dell systems having issues with their raid cards could you please give me a little bit more info on this as our company is looking at Dell now? Thanks for your help Adam Raff |
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"NuT CrAcKeR" wrote in message t... the HP Array controllers generally dont cause problems (like you are describing) with the servers. Dell, as you mentioned ...well, thats another discussion. I wonder if you have/had the proliant support pack for 2003 installed on your server. If there is a deeper hardware issue, you would want to look at the IML (integrated management log) viewer ... this is a log in the hardware that can tell you when nasty things are happening to the machine itself. For now, i would try clearing the NVRAM (should be a position on the SW1 or SW2 switches on the mainboard (check the case lid for more information) and try to boot again. Also, check the status of your powersupply. that machine is getting pretty darn old right about now, and those powersupplies dont last forever. - LC -- "Adam Raff" wrote in message ... Good Day, We have an old 1600 that was working fine. It had a 3200 Raid Controller with a raid 1 and 5 setup. OS mirrored with data Raid5. The system was running Windows 2003 SP1 A few days ago out of the blue we were not able to access the network drives. I took a look at the system and found that I could not access it. Monitor was black and blinking with no video. I had to do a hard reboot and all came back up. We had some issues and I thought at the time that it was something that happened and did not pay any mind to it. It happened again a few days later and this time I said Ok this may be a problem. I checked the logs which showed no errors except that the server had to be rebooted. I went into the raid software and checked the drives, everything looked clean and green. Today we had the same problem and this time there is nothing on the screen when I boot. I tried changing the controller with no luck (used another 3200 card). That is when I realized that I was not even getting post on the server. The CD Rom drive would light up and then the drives and that is it. Everything is dark, no activity to the Raid. I am getting power of some kind. So, what is the best way to figure this out as I believe that the system is done for? On a side note, I read a post here about Dell systems having issues with their raid cards could you please give me a little bit more info on this as our company is looking at Dell now? Thanks for your help Adam Raff At one time we had a bunch of 1600's. Two repetitive problems that we found were connections where the boards plugged together and the two mainboards themselves. You state you have changed controller so that is eliminated, and if the drives run that means the 12 volt is on the power supply. You effectively eliminated "half" the power supply by stating the drives are running and usually when the supply goes, it's dead, this is assuming you have a single power supply. If your machine is a 3 power supply unit, at least 2 of the 3 power supplies have to be in working order for the server to function. If cpu-1 should fail you would have a similar problem to what you describe, though doubtful. You can take CPU-2 and it's vrm and plug into the CPU-1 slot leaving CPU-2 slot empty and would have an excellent chance of eliminating the CPU and vrm. CPU's don't give much trouble either. The other pregnant possibility is the Ram. It is also possible a card plugged into the main board other than the Raid controller is the problem. If that is not the issue, the Mainboards or connections will be the culprit. If it is a hardware / mainboard issue, a dirt cheap way out is get a ML370, it accepts 6 drives like the 1600 and will also accept the 3200 controller. The raid 5 data would be no problem, the OS on your first two drives could be an issue with drivers and possibly get you a "blue screen" by directly swapping drives from a 1600 to ML370. You could reload the os though and still have the data on the raid 5 part of the array. The Dual 1 gig ML 370's are running between 50 and 100 bucks depending on what's in it. Another issue with the 800's and 1600's is the battery for the bios is on it 's last leg if not already dead. As nutcracker said, it's an old unit and not worth putting any money in it. Phil |
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Thanks Guys,
I knew I could get some answers here. Just to let you know Yes I did load the support that was supported for 2003. If the system is dead how to I look at the IML. If I need to boot from CD don't think that is going to happen as I tried and same thing. System starts up. CD light flashes, drive lights go on for a second then go off. Power light stays on. All the Fans are spinning, but nobody is home. My gut feeling it's the MB. Perhaps the Power Supply but as everybody says it's an old system. Lucky the data was not imported as it was an FTP server only, nothing else. I am looking around for another server which was why I asked about the Dells Raid Cards. I did a Google but did not find anything that sheds any light. If somebody can give me a place to look that would be a great help. I am also looking at the new HP systems something small with SATA or SAS. Thanks Adam Raff "Phil" wrote in message .. . "NuT CrAcKeR" wrote in message t... the HP Array controllers generally dont cause problems (like you are describing) with the servers. Dell, as you mentioned ...well, thats another discussion. I wonder if you have/had the proliant support pack for 2003 installed on your server. If there is a deeper hardware issue, you would want to look at the IML (integrated management log) viewer ... this is a log in the hardware that can tell you when nasty things are happening to the machine itself. For now, i would try clearing the NVRAM (should be a position on the SW1 or SW2 switches on the mainboard (check the case lid for more information) and try to boot again. Also, check the status of your powersupply. that machine is getting pretty darn old right about now, and those powersupplies dont last forever. - LC -- "Adam Raff" wrote in message ... Good Day, We have an old 1600 that was working fine. It had a 3200 Raid Controller with a raid 1 and 5 setup. OS mirrored with data Raid5. The system was running Windows 2003 SP1 A few days ago out of the blue we were not able to access the network drives. I took a look at the system and found that I could not access it. Monitor was black and blinking with no video. I had to do a hard reboot and all came back up. We had some issues and I thought at the time that it was something that happened and did not pay any mind to it. It happened again a few days later and this time I said Ok this may be a problem. I checked the logs which showed no errors except that the server had to be rebooted. I went into the raid software and checked the drives, everything looked clean and green. Today we had the same problem and this time there is nothing on the screen when I boot. I tried changing the controller with no luck (used another 3200 card). That is when I realized that I was not even getting post on the server. The CD Rom drive would light up and then the drives and that is it. Everything is dark, no activity to the Raid. I am getting power of some kind. So, what is the best way to figure this out as I believe that the system is done for? On a side note, I read a post here about Dell systems having issues with their raid cards could you please give me a little bit more info on this as our company is looking at Dell now? Thanks for your help Adam Raff At one time we had a bunch of 1600's. Two repetitive problems that we found were connections where the boards plugged together and the two mainboards themselves. You state you have changed controller so that is eliminated, and if the drives run that means the 12 volt is on the power supply. You effectively eliminated "half" the power supply by stating the drives are running and usually when the supply goes, it's dead, this is assuming you have a single power supply. If your machine is a 3 power supply unit, at least 2 of the 3 power supplies have to be in working order for the server to function. If cpu-1 should fail you would have a similar problem to what you describe, though doubtful. You can take CPU-2 and it's vrm and plug into the CPU-1 slot leaving CPU-2 slot empty and would have an excellent chance of eliminating the CPU and vrm. CPU's don't give much trouble either. The other pregnant possibility is the Ram. It is also possible a card plugged into the main board other than the Raid controller is the problem. If that is not the issue, the Mainboards or connections will be the culprit. If it is a hardware / mainboard issue, a dirt cheap way out is get a ML370, it accepts 6 drives like the 1600 and will also accept the 3200 controller. The raid 5 data would be no problem, the OS on your first two drives could be an issue with drivers and possibly get you a "blue screen" by directly swapping drives from a 1600 to ML370. You could reload the os though and still have the data on the raid 5 part of the array. The Dual 1 gig ML 370's are running between 50 and 100 bucks depending on what's in it. Another issue with the 800's and 1600's is the battery for the bios is on it 's last leg if not already dead. As nutcracker said, it's an old unit and not worth putting any money in it. Phil |
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I've had the exact same problems with 1600's. Look carefully at the
connectors and transistion card that connect the CPU board and expansion slot board. Sometimes the stiffener bracket on the CPU board will press on the SCSI connector cover (feeding to the drive cage) and give you an intermittent operation. Sometimes you need to let the transition card "float" by leaving the mounting screws slightly loose to allow the MB and expansion connectors to seat well. In my case it wasn't the power supply or the motherboard causing the problem - turned out to be pressure on the SCSI connector. Good Luck! Adam Raff wrote: Thanks Guys, I knew I could get some answers here. Just to let you know Yes I did load the support that was supported for 2003. If the system is dead how to I look at the IML. If I need to boot from CD don't think that is going to happen as I tried and same thing. System starts up. CD light flashes, drive lights go on for a second then go off. Power light stays on. All the Fans are spinning, but nobody is home. My gut feeling it's the MB. Perhaps the Power Supply but as everybody says it's an old system. Lucky the data was not imported as it was an FTP server only, nothing else. I am looking around for another server which was why I asked about the Dells Raid Cards. I did a Google but did not find anything that sheds any light. If somebody can give me a place to look that would be a great help. I am also looking at the new HP systems something small with SATA or SAS. Thanks Adam Raff "Phil" wrote in message .. . "NuT CrAcKeR" wrote in message t... the HP Array controllers generally dont cause problems (like you are describing) with the servers. Dell, as you mentioned ...well, thats another discussion. I wonder if you have/had the proliant support pack for 2003 installed on your server. If there is a deeper hardware issue, you would want to look at the IML (integrated management log) viewer ... this is a log in the hardware that can tell you when nasty things are happening to the machine itself. For now, i would try clearing the NVRAM (should be a position on the SW1 or SW2 switches on the mainboard (check the case lid for more information) and try to boot again. Also, check the status of your powersupply. that machine is getting pretty darn old right about now, and those powersupplies dont last forever. - LC -- "Adam Raff" wrote in message ... Good Day, We have an old 1600 that was working fine. It had a 3200 Raid Controller with a raid 1 and 5 setup. OS mirrored with data Raid5. The system was running Windows 2003 SP1 A few days ago out of the blue we were not able to access the network drives. I took a look at the system and found that I could not access it. Monitor was black and blinking with no video. I had to do a hard reboot and all came back up. We had some issues and I thought at the time that it was something that happened and did not pay any mind to it. It happened again a few days later and this time I said Ok this may be a problem. I checked the logs which showed no errors except that the server had to be rebooted. I went into the raid software and checked the drives, everything looked clean and green. Today we had the same problem and this time there is nothing on the screen when I boot. I tried changing the controller with no luck (used another 3200 card). That is when I realized that I was not even getting post on the server. The CD Rom drive would light up and then the drives and that is it. Everything is dark, no activity to the Raid. I am getting power of some kind. So, what is the best way to figure this out as I believe that the system is done for? On a side note, I read a post here about Dell systems having issues with their raid cards could you please give me a little bit more info on this as our company is looking at Dell now? Thanks for your help Adam Raff At one time we had a bunch of 1600's. Two repetitive problems that we found were connections where the boards plugged together and the two mainboards themselves. You state you have changed controller so that is eliminated, and if the drives run that means the 12 volt is on the power supply. You effectively eliminated "half" the power supply by stating the drives are running and usually when the supply goes, it's dead, this is assuming you have a single power supply. If your machine is a 3 power supply unit, at least 2 of the 3 power supplies have to be in working order for the server to function. If cpu-1 should fail you would have a similar problem to what you describe, though doubtful. You can take CPU-2 and it's vrm and plug into the CPU-1 slot leaving CPU-2 slot empty and would have an excellent chance of eliminating the CPU and vrm. CPU's don't give much trouble either. The other pregnant possibility is the Ram. It is also possible a card plugged into the main board other than the Raid controller is the problem. If that is not the issue, the Mainboards or connections will be the culprit. If it is a hardware / mainboard issue, a dirt cheap way out is get a ML370, it accepts 6 drives like the 1600 and will also accept the 3200 controller. The raid 5 data would be no problem, the OS on your first two drives could be an issue with drivers and possibly get you a "blue screen" by directly swapping drives from a 1600 to ML370. You could reload the os though and still have the data on the raid 5 part of the array. The Dual 1 gig ML 370's are running between 50 and 100 bucks depending on what's in it. Another issue with the 800's and 1600's is the battery for the bios is on it 's last leg if not already dead. As nutcracker said, it's an old unit and not worth putting any money in it. Phil |
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