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Just got an Aspire 2920 with Vista installed. I cannot abide it and
would like to install XP but need the XP drivers. Anyone any suggestions please? -- Dystopia |
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"Dystopia" kirjoitti om... Just got an Aspire 2920 with Vista installed. I cannot abide it and would like to install XP but need the XP drivers. Anyone any suggestions please? -- Dystopia http://support.acer-euro.com/drivers...k/as_2920.html But there isn't any XP drivers _specifically_ for that model. You have to go hunting one driver at a time from the component mfg's... -- Thomas Wendell Helsinki, Finland Translations to/from FI not always accurate |
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Learn to "abide" it.
HH "Dystopia" wrote in message ... Just got an Aspire 2920 with Vista installed. I cannot abide it and would like to install XP but need the XP drivers. Anyone any suggestions please? -- Dystopia |
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:23:36 +0200, "Thomas Wendell"
wrote: "Dystopia" kirjoitti viestissä:vejsn4ltoc40ofnnne15rkehtb9t8cle8v@4ax. com... Just got an Aspire 2920 with Vista installed. I cannot abide it and would like to install XP but need the XP drivers. Anyone any suggestions please? -- Dystopia http://support.acer-euro.com/drivers...k/as_2920.html But there isn't any XP drivers _specifically_ for that model. You have to go hunting one driver at a time from the component mfg's... Not so easy. The driver back-up disc that I created using a facility on the laptop lists the following: Chipset Intel 965 Chipset Driver 8.3.0.1013 AHCI Intel AHCI Driver 7.6.0.1011 VGA Intel® Extreme Graphics Driver 7.14.10.1329 Audio Realtek Azalia Audio Driver 6.0.1.5486 TouchPad Synaptics Media Key/TouchPad Driver 10.0.15.0 Modem\Agere Lite-On Agere Modem Driver 2.1.77.9 Modem\Conexant Foxconn Conexant 7.6.2.00 Modem Driver 80211abg\Intel Intel 3945 802.11 a/b/g Wireless Lan Driver 11.1.1.22 80211abg\Intel Intel 4965 802.11 a/b/g/n Wireless Lan Driver 11.1.1.22 80211abg\ Broadcom 4311 a/b/g Wireless Lan Broadcom Driver 4.102.15.63 80211abg\ Atheros XB63 a/b/g Wireless Lan Atheros Driver 7.2.0.215 LAN Broadcom LAN Driver 10.9.00 CardR O2 Card Reader driver 6.0.6000.10092 Webcam\Bison Bison Crystal Eye Webcam Driver: 7.96.701.12a Utility Application: 2.0.0.9 Webcam\Suyin Suyin Crystal Eye Webcam Driver: 5.8.30.500-1.0 Utility App:1.0.11 Webcam\Chicony Chicony Crystal Eye Webcam Driver: 5.7.31.400-1.0 Utility As you see there are multiple Modem, LAN and Webcam drivers and checking in Vistas Device Manager does not help. Anyone know which I should select? -- Dystopia |
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Hi!
Please read this whole message. But there isn't any XP drivers _specifically_ for that model. You have to go hunting one driver at a time from the component mfg's... What you may very well find is that the driver packages available from Acer contain *all* the drivers for various Windows versions and maybe even other operating systems. Only every once in a while does a system provider "trim" the drivers they provide so that only one operating system (or family of operating systems) is supported. Chipset Intel 965 Chipset Driver 8.3.0.1013 AHCI Intel AHCI Driver 7.6.0.1011 VGA Intel® Extreme Graphics Driver 7.14.10.1329 http://lnk.nu/downloadcenter.intel.com/sgh.aspx You need: 32-bit Floppy Configuration Utility (probably required so XP can see your hard drive at setup time) and a floppy drive (built in or USB) INF Update (one of the first things to install when Windows XP has been installed, get the non ZIP version) Intel Graphics Media Accelerator Driver (use the latest version, get the non-ZIP package) Audio Realtek Azalia Audio Driver 6.0.1.5486 The driver from your disc is probably fine for this. TouchPad Synaptics Media Key/TouchPad Driver 10.0.15.0 Use the driver from the disc. Modem\Agere Lite-On Agere Modem Driver 2.1.77.9 Modem\Conexant Foxconn Conexant 7.6.2.00 Modem Driver Which one does your computer have? Check the device manager, it will only have one. 80211abg\Intel Intel 3945 802.11 a/b/g Wireless Lan Driver 11.1.1.22 80211abg\Intel Intel 4965 802.11 a/b/g/n Wireless Lan Driver 11.1.1.22 80211abg\ Broadcom 4311 a/b/g Wireless Lan Broadcom Driver 4.102.15.63 80211abg\ Atheros XB63 a/b/g Wireless Lan Atheros Driver 7.2.0.215 Which one does your computer have? It will have only one, listed in the device manager. LAN Broadcom LAN Driver 10.9.00 The driver from your disc should be fine. This is your wired network hardware, not the wireless. Your computer has two network adapters, one from the wireless category above, and this one. CardR O2 Card Reader driver 6.0.6000.10092 The driver from your disc should be fine. Webcam\Bison Bison Crystal Eye Webcam Driver: 7.96.701.12a Utility Application: 2.0.0.9 Webcam\Suyin Suyin Crystal Eye Webcam Driver: 5.8.30.500-1.0 Utility App:1.0.11 Webcam\Chicony Chicony Crystal Eye Webcam Driver: 5.7.31.400-1.0 Utility I suspect these will be difficult to identify, as they probably don't show up by name in the Device Manager. As you see there are multiple Modem, LAN and Webcam drivers and checking in Vistas Device Manager does not help. Anyone know which I should select? I'm surprised Acer's driver disc doesn't know what hardware you have after running some kind of a probe to find out. The presence of multiple drivers on the disc means one of two things--either Acer uses the same disc across several models, or that they have built the same model of computer with slightly different parts depending on what was available during a given production run. Device Manager *will* tell you most of what you need to know. The only potentially troublesome one will be the webcam, which is likely to be labeled as something generic instead of what it really is. But your modem, LAN and Wireless adapters *will* be listed by their names and model numbers in the Device Manager. Of that I am pretty sure. If nothing else, the manufacturer name should be a big hint for some of the above. You might have to double click some of the items to get more information, like the name of the driver provider. So the first thing to do is to write down everything listed in Device Manager and the name of the driver provider for any entries that aren't perfectly clear about who the manufacturer/driver provider is. The second thing to do is to think about whether or not you've got the time to deal with this right now. Can you take the time that may be required to get everything working? I'd expect a couple of hours at most from start to finish, if you don't need to take any breaks. If this is your first time doing something like this, it will take longer. Once you've done that, make any recovery CDs that Acer might provide a utility to produce. This way you can at least in theory get back to the factory state of the computer if you decide that you can't convert it to run Windows XP. You'll most likely need a floppy drive to give Windows XP setup the drivers it needs to utilize the hard disk and storage controller (this is the Intel AHCI part). Otherwise, Windows Setup will probably say that it can't find any hard drives in your computer. Take a deep breath, get comfortable and dig in if now is a good time to work on this and you think that you're comfortable working on it. That's the important part. If you're not sure that you know how to do some or all of this, it's time to find someone you trust to do it for you. You should also realize that doing what you're about to do will in theory invalidate any software technical support Acer provides. It will not void your hardware warranty, unless of course you get so mad that you throw the computer out the window. Anyone who says that your computer cannot run a different operating system and maintain use of all the installed hardware is being silly, to be polite about it. Some things are easier than others, but I have yet to see any computer that cannot be taken from running Vista to another, earlier version of Windows and have 100% functionality in the end. William |
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:55:46 GMT, "William R. Walsh"
m wrote: Hi! Please read this whole message. But there isn't any XP drivers _specifically_ for that model. You have to go hunting one driver at a time from the component mfg's... What you may very well find is that the driver packages available from Acer contain *all* the drivers for various Windows versions and maybe even other operating systems. Only every once in a while does a system provider "trim" the drivers they provide so that only one operating system (or family of operating systems) is supported. SNIP Thanks William for taking the trouble to send such a comprehensive reply. I have printed it and will go through it systematically. Alex. -- Dystopia |
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:55:46 GMT, "William R. Walsh"
m wrote: Hi! Please read this whole message. But there isn't any XP drivers _specifically_ for that model. You have to go hunting one driver at a time from the component mfg's... What you may very well find is that the driver packages available from Acer contain *all* the drivers for various Windows versions and maybe even other operating systems. Only every once in a while does a system provider "trim" the drivers they provide so that only one operating system (or family of operating systems) is supported. Chipset Intel 965 Chipset Driver 8.3.0.1013 AHCI Intel AHCI Driver 7.6.0.1011 VGA IntelĀ® Extreme Graphics Driver 7.14.10.1329 http://lnk.nu/downloadcenter.intel.com/sgh.aspx You need: 32-bit Floppy Configuration Utility (probably required so XP can see your hard drive at setup time) and a floppy drive (built in or USB) INF Update (one of the first things to install when Windows XP has been installed, get the non ZIP version) Intel Graphics Media Accelerator Driver (use the latest version, get the non-ZIP package) Audio Realtek Azalia Audio Driver 6.0.1.5486 The driver from your disc is probably fine for this. TouchPad Synaptics Media Key/TouchPad Driver 10.0.15.0 Use the driver from the disc. Modem\Agere Lite-On Agere Modem Driver 2.1.77.9 Modem\Conexant Foxconn Conexant 7.6.2.00 Modem Driver Which one does your computer have? Check the device manager, it will only have one. 80211abg\Intel Intel 3945 802.11 a/b/g Wireless Lan Driver 11.1.1.22 80211abg\Intel Intel 4965 802.11 a/b/g/n Wireless Lan Driver 11.1.1.22 80211abg\ Broadcom 4311 a/b/g Wireless Lan Broadcom Driver 4.102.15.63 80211abg\ Atheros XB63 a/b/g Wireless Lan Atheros Driver 7.2.0.215 Which one does your computer have? It will have only one, listed in the device manager. LAN Broadcom LAN Driver 10.9.00 The driver from your disc should be fine. This is your wired network hardware, not the wireless. Your computer has two network adapters, one from the wireless category above, and this one. CardR O2 Card Reader driver 6.0.6000.10092 The driver from your disc should be fine. Webcam\Bison Bison Crystal Eye Webcam Driver: 7.96.701.12a Utility Application: 2.0.0.9 Webcam\Suyin Suyin Crystal Eye Webcam Driver: 5.8.30.500-1.0 Utility App:1.0.11 Webcam\Chicony Chicony Crystal Eye Webcam Driver: 5.7.31.400-1.0 Utility I suspect these will be difficult to identify, as they probably don't show up by name in the Device Manager. As you see there are multiple Modem, LAN and Webcam drivers and checking in Vistas Device Manager does not help. Anyone know which I should select? I'm surprised Acer's driver disc doesn't know what hardware you have after running some kind of a probe to find out. The presence of multiple drivers on the disc means one of two things--either Acer uses the same disc across several models, or that they have built the same model of computer with slightly different parts depending on what was available during a given production run. Device Manager *will* tell you most of what you need to know. The only potentially troublesome one will be the webcam, which is likely to be labeled as something generic instead of what it really is. But your modem, LAN and Wireless adapters *will* be listed by their names and model numbers in the Device Manager. Of that I am pretty sure. If nothing else, the manufacturer name should be a big hint for some of the above. You might have to double click some of the items to get more information, like the name of the driver provider. So the first thing to do is to write down everything listed in Device Manager and the name of the driver provider for any entries that aren't perfectly clear about who the manufacturer/driver provider is. The second thing to do is to think about whether or not you've got the time to deal with this right now. Can you take the time that may be required to get everything working? I'd expect a couple of hours at most from start to finish, if you don't need to take any breaks. If this is your first time doing something like this, it will take longer. Once you've done that, make any recovery CDs that Acer might provide a utility to produce. This way you can at least in theory get back to the factory state of the computer if you decide that you can't convert it to run Windows XP. You'll most likely need a floppy drive to give Windows XP setup the drivers it needs to utilize the hard disk and storage controller (this is the Intel AHCI part). Otherwise, Windows Setup will probably say that it can't find any hard drives in your computer. Take a deep breath, get comfortable and dig in if now is a good time to work on this and you think that you're comfortable working on it. That's the important part. If you're not sure that you know how to do some or all of this, it's time to find someone you trust to do it for you. You should also realize that doing what you're about to do will in theory invalidate any software technical support Acer provides. It will not void your hardware warranty, unless of course you get so mad that you throw the computer out the window. Anyone who says that your computer cannot run a different operating system and maintain use of all the installed hardware is being silly, to be polite about it. Some things are easier than others, but I have yet to see any computer that cannot be taken from running Vista to another, earlier version of Windows and have 100% functionality in the end. William You need to be a BIT carefull. A lot of the new machines (Acer's Verton M460 as an example) (Which thankfully comes with XP downgrade install disks) will NOT accept an install from anything less than SP2. SP3 preferred. The USB or PCI - I forget which, drivers fail the install with straight XP or SP1. |
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"HH" wrote in message news:Y8ydnSbZUtiWmOLUnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@metrocastcab levision.com... Learn to "abide" it. HH I agree. While I don't like Vista, and most of my computers run XP, it's not as bad as most people think. And, unfortunately, some computers are tweaked to run better with Vista. While I also agree with the poster who gave all the instructions for loading XP, I've spoken with a lot of techs who also don't like Vista, but confess that if your computer came loaded with the thing it's best to just get used to it. Vista does have "some" advantages over XP, and hopefully Windows next OS will be an improvement and will probably be a lot less trouble to load over Vista than going back to XP. |
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