Overclocking a Pentium 4 3.4GHz

I'm going to be buying a new computer soon and am looking to buy parts
that will allow for a lot of overclocking (hopefully). I've been
thinking about the Pentium 3.4.(I'm guessing after the new Intel
pentium releases on the 21st the price on these should drop enough
that I will buy it) My question is can I expect a lot of overclocking
on this? Also, what would be the better one to buy, the Prescott or
Northwood? Also, any ideas on good memory or motherboard to go with
that would also be helpful. Thanks in advance to any advice.

DavidR.

"DavidR." wrote in message
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I'm going to be buying a new computer soon and am looking to buy parts
that will allow for a lot of overclocking (hopefully). I've been
thinking about the Pentium 3.4.(I'm guessing after the new Intel
pentium releases on the 21st the price on these should drop enough
that I will buy it) My question is can I expect a lot of overclocking
on this? Also, what would be the better one to buy, the Prescott or
Northwood? Also, any ideas on good memory or motherboard to go with
that would also be helpful. Thanks in advance to any advice.

DavidR.
3.6 GHz if your lucky.
I asked the same thing a while back, and I was told that's about
all I'll get.
I would say go for a 3.06 or a 2.8
Reason is, it uses a much higher multiplier to get to that speed.
If I remember right, and seems to sound right, you'll be lucky to
hit a FSB of 220 = 3740
I can almost hit 3.4 with my 2.8C (Northwood Core.)
I can get 700 MHz out of this, without too much extra on the vcore.
500 MHz over, I don't need to do a thing with vcore.
One more time, I'd get a 3.06 GHz CPU if I were you.
Memory, Kingmax PC2700 (DDR333) or PC3200 (DDR400)
Video (AIW) 9600 Radeon or better Is what I would get.
Power = Antec or Enermax, either way, I would say get a 500 or 550.
Case,, ThermalTake makes some really nice one's. Some with a little more
room for HD's then others.
MB???????????????????
MSI Makes some Very good boards.
But, so does Asus & Gigabyte, abit is good too.
Anyway, I suggest against getting a 3.4 GHz CPU
I think you may have better luck with something slower...
Good Luck to you.
Denny. :-)

Dennis E Strausser Jr wrote:
I would say go for a 3.06 or a 2.8
Reason is, it uses a much higher multiplier to get to that speed.
If I remember right, and seems to sound right, you'll be lucky to
hit a FSB of 220 = 3740
I can almost hit 3.4 with my 2.8C (Northwood Core.)
I can get 700 MHz out of this, without too much extra on the vcore.
500 MHz over, I don't need to do a thing with vcore.
One more time, I'd get a 3.06 GHz CPU if I were you.

I hope to God you mean the 3.0C, not the 3.06!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is an OLD processor, running at 533 MHz FSB, and already VERY close to
it's maximum clock!

Thomas

Newbie question - what's the (important) difference between a 3.0 and a
3.0C? What's the 'C' for?

Ok, thanks for the advice.

David Reynolds


"Thomas" wrote in message news:h%Szc.220$%27.14997@zonnet-reader-1...
Dennis E Strausser Jr wrote:
I would say go for a 3.06 or a 2.8
Reason is, it uses a much higher multiplier to get to that speed.
If I remember right, and seems to sound right, you'll be lucky to
hit a FSB of 220 = 3740
I can almost hit 3.4 with my 2.8C (Northwood Core.)
I can get 700 MHz out of this, without too much extra on the vcore.
500 MHz over, I don't need to do a thing with vcore.
One more time, I'd get a 3.06 GHz CPU if I were you.

I hope to God you mean the 3.0C, not the 3.06!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is an OLD processor, running at 533 MHz FSB, and already VERY close to
it's maximum clock!

Thomas

Slacker wrote:
Newbie question - what's the (important) difference between a 3.0 and
a
3.0C? What's the 'C' for?

Okay; the P4 history in a nutshell:
- P4 (1.4-2.0 GHz?) Willamette core, .18 core, 256 kbyte cache. Slow, not
O/Cable, ****ty thing ;-)
- P4(A) (1.6, 1.8, 2.0, 2.2, 2.4, 2.6 GHz) Nortwood core, .13 core, 512
kbyte cache
- P4 (B) same, with 533 MHz FSB. This runs from 2.23 GHz to 3.06 GHz. Only
the last one, the 3.06, has Hyper threading. Because it's at the top oof
this family, it's barely overclockeble.
- P4 (C) same, with 800 MHz FSB. Starts at 2.4, runt to 3.2? I have the 2.6,
overclocks to 3.2.
- P4 (E) Prescott co 90 nanometer core. 1 MB cache, but longer pipeline.
This is the latest version, has it's advantages and disadvantages. It's a
hothead, consumes an enormous amount of power, and at best performs on par
with the previous generation, clock for clock.

My advice, a 2.8C or 3.0C... These overclock (very) nicely....

Thomas

"Slacker" wrote in message
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Newbie question - what's the (important) difference between a 3.0 and a
3.0C? What's the 'C' for?


Oops, I goofed...
Pentium 4A = 400 MHz Bus Speed
FSB = 100 MHz Per Clock Cycle X 4 = 400 MHz
Some of the PIII's were better then the first P4's

Pentium 4B = 533 MHz Bus Speed
FSB = 133.25 MHz Per Clock Cycle X 4 = 533 MHz (This one gets a little
Odd.)
Cause the Multiplier would be so high, you wouldn't be able to Overclock
this one
much better then the P4C 3.4GHz,, My bad.

Pentium 4C = 800 MHz Bus Speed
FSB = 200 MHz Per Clock Cycle X 4 = 800 MHz
The Multiplier would still be low enough to get a really nice Overclock.
15x200=3000 or 3.0GHz my guess is you shound be able to do around 240.
240x15=3600 or 3.6GHz with a little more on Vcore, I would guess you could
get a 700MHz Overclock. Might even get lucky to get a little more.

I don't know man, I think I would rather something more simple like
133x2=266
133x the Multiplier 13.5 1795.5? I didn't know it didn't total to 1800 or
1.8GHz....
161MHz x 2 = 322 or 161x13.5=2173.5
Oops, sorry for that, this is more of an Intel Group.

And I messed up, P4C 3.0GHz

Denny. :-)

Hi,

So what your saying is that the P4 that I have below is no better than a P3?
Just to clear up.

Spence


Processor Properties
Manufacturer Intel
Version Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4A Processor
External Clock 144 MHz
Maximum Clock 4000 MHz
Current Clock 3024 MHz
Type Central Processor
Voltage 3.3 V, 2.9 V
Status Enabled
Socket Designation FC-478




"Dennis E Strausser Jr" wrote in message
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"Slacker" wrote in message
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Newbie question - what's the (important) difference between a 3.0 and a
3.0C? What's the 'C' for?


Oops, I goofed...
Pentium 4A = 400 MHz Bus Speed
FSB = 100 MHz Per Clock Cycle X 4 = 400 MHz
Some of the PIII's were better then the first P4's

Pentium 4B = 533 MHz Bus Speed
FSB = 133.25 MHz Per Clock Cycle X 4 = 533 MHz (This one gets a little
Odd.)
Cause the Multiplier would be so high, you wouldn't be able to Overclock
this one
much better then the P4C 3.4GHz,, My bad.

Pentium 4C = 800 MHz Bus Speed
FSB = 200 MHz Per Clock Cycle X 4 = 800 MHz
The Multiplier would still be low enough to get a really nice Overclock.
15x200=3000 or 3.0GHz my guess is you shound be able to do around 240.
240x15=3600 or 3.6GHz with a little more on Vcore, I would guess you could
get a 700MHz Overclock. Might even get lucky to get a little more.

I don't know man, I think I would rather something more simple like
133x2=266
133x the Multiplier 13.5 1795.5? I didn't know it didn't total to 1800 or
1.8GHz....
161MHz x 2 = 322 or 161x13.5=2173.5
Oops, sorry for that, this is more of an Intel Group.

And I messed up, P4C 3.0GHz

Denny. :-)

Spencer wrote:
So what your saying is that the P4 that I have below is no better
than a P3? Just to clear up.

snip

Though he makes a mistake by calling it the P4A, he's referring to the FIRST
P4's, with the Willamette core. Like I said before, these were not Intel's
finest invention ever. The P4A set everything straight.

Thomas

"Thomas" wrote in message
news:vwJAc.2093$%27.79519@zonnet-reader-1...
Spencer wrote:
So what your saying is that the P4 that I have below is no better
than a P3? Just to clear up.

snip

Though he makes a mistake by calling it the P4A, he's referring to the
FIRST
P4's, with the Willamette core. Like I said before, these were not Intel's
finest invention ever. The P4A set everything straight.

Thomas


Right, the socket 423 (PGA423) If I got the pin count right.
Then they moved to the socket 478 &
603/604 for Xeon's
Case & PSU, me hopes it will only be a few weeks yet.
2.66 GHz CPU's (PGA604) Need HSF setups too, I'm sure I'll have em.
Might just get them by the same ppl as my case Tt. X1000 one of em.
Denny. :-)