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Need advice on a new computer
On 4/19/2014 12:56 PM, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:
On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 12:21:01 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote: On 18/04/2014 8:35 PM, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote: My old build is 5 years old, and it's fine for everything I do except video editing. I have 2 DVDs of video.... sent many many 8mm rolls off to the lab and had it all scanned to video files.... now I have to go thorough it all, arrange it chronologically, cut out crap and add in transitions. This means lots of rendering.... and the old computer doesn't want to do that very quickly. What parameters are best to optomize for video editing? It seem like multiple threads might help, but I don't know if my editing program (Premier Elements 9) supports that.... and don't know how much memory will speed things up. Does anyone know if a better software program would make things go faster? Any recommendations appreciated. According to this review: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2372120,00.asp "Both Elements—Premiere and Photoshop—can be had for $149.99 together or $99.99 separately. If you're upgrading from a previous version, those prices drop to $119.99 and $79.99. The software is available for both Windows (XP with SP3, Vista with SP2, Windows 7, or Windows 8 & 8.1) and Mac (OS X v10.7 through v10.9). On Windows it requires a 2GHz or faster processor with SSE2 support, 2GB RAM (though I'd recommend more), and a DX 9 or 10 graphics card with at least a 1024x768 monitor. It only runs at 64-bits on Windows 7, 8, and 8.1 and Mac. For this review, I tested Premiere Elements 12 on a 3.4GHz AMD quad-core Windows 7 Ultimate PC with 8GB DDR3 RAM and an ATI Radeon HD 4290 graphics adapter." The only things it needs are SSE2 support and a DirectX 9 or 10 video card. Of course, that's for Premiere Elements 12, rather than PE 9, so PE 9 might be even more lax on its requirements. How much RAM and how many cores do you have on your current rig? Yousuf Khan 2 cores (Intel E8400) and 8 GB, Win 7 64bit. I would say the first thing to consider is your budget and upgrade with a new motherboard,CPU,RAM and PSU. This won't really cost you as much as the time you spend waiting for all those videos to render. I built a cheap system just for that purpose and did it well. AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor, 2800 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 6 Logical Processor(s) $22.00 ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard Around $80. Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti, 1GB GDDR5, PCI-E 2.0 x 16, Graphics Card About $180. 16BG DDR3 RAM about $150. 750W PSU about $75. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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On Sun, 20 Apr 2014 18:40:56 -0400, Al Drake
wrote: I built a cheap system just for that purpose and did it well. AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor, 2800 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 6 Logical Processor(s) $22.00 ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard Around $80. Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti, 1GB GDDR5, PCI-E 2.0 x 16, Graphics Card About $180. 16BG DDR3 RAM about $150. 750W PSU about $75. Good stuff but could be overall cheaper. Excellent price on the processor. Not bad for the ASUS - not a budget MB, but for the price better off with the ASUS brandname rather than some lesser name for $50 that's not as reputable. Graphics card really isn't a need for video rendering only unless there's a confidence/realtime-monitoring thing going on. Assign the video job for its parameters and view the results after it's rendered/compiled. Last I processed video, anyway (no special effects, fades and whatnot.) Memory has always been relatively cheap, last I looked, in well-reviewed noname Newegg offerings. Dig around a little in the reivews for adequate matches on a given MB to memory offerings. Maybe shave a few bucks on a PS rebate/sale for something along 500W in a topnotch brand, SeaSonic possibly. The memory, both amount and price, and a $180 videoboard - I'd question those items, though. That's somewhere liberally between 200, 250 to discount for otherwise $300 you've added into the build. (Last build, my idea of cheap on the new, I priced for myself, not that long ago, I had a total at around $120 - basic core components: MB/CPU/MEM. Likely a dual-core in newer FX/CPU-graphics enabled, as anything more I likely wouldn't need - case and PS, all that stuff, I've already spare generic parts. Not a graphics intensive thing, either, of course. Most I have to impose on a processor is regular multimedia decoding/streaming, along with some simultaneous sound processing - heats up my present 3Ghz x2 Athlon a bit is all. MB chipset runs at 130F and CPU at 115F while carrying those loads. Forget my wattage draw offhand.) |
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On 4/20/2014 7:06 PM, Flasherly wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2014 18:40:56 -0400, Al Drake wrote: I built a cheap system just for that purpose and did it well. AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor, 2800 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 6 Logical Processor(s) $22.00 ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard Around $80. Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti, 1GB GDDR5, PCI-E 2.0 x 16, Graphics Card About $180. 16BG DDR3 RAM about $150. 750W PSU about $75. Good stuff but could be overall cheaper. Excellent price on the processor. Not bad for the ASUS - not a budget MB, but for the price better off with the ASUS brandname rather than some lesser name for $50 that's not as reputable. Graphics card really isn't a need for video rendering only unless there's a confidence/realtime-monitoring thing going on. Assign the video job for its parameters and view the results after it's rendered/compiled. Last I processed video, anyway (no special effects, fades and whatnot.) Memory has always been relatively cheap, last I looked, in well-reviewed noname Newegg offerings. Dig around a little in the reivews for adequate matches on a given MB to memory offerings. Maybe shave a few bucks on a PS rebate/sale for something along 500W in a topnotch brand, SeaSonic possibly. The memory, both amount and price, and a $180 videoboard - I'd question those items, though. That's somewhere liberally between 200, 250 to discount for otherwise $300 you've added into the build. (Last build, my idea of cheap on the new, I priced for myself, not that long ago, I had a total at around $120 - basic core components: MB/CPU/MEM. Likely a dual-core in newer FX/CPU-graphics enabled, as anything more I likely wouldn't need - case and PS, all that stuff, I've already spare generic parts. Not a graphics intensive thing, either, of course. Most I have to impose on a processor is regular multimedia decoding/streaming, along with some simultaneous sound processing - heats up my present 3Ghz x2 Athlon a bit is all. MB chipset runs at 130F and CPU at 115F while carrying those loads. Forget my wattage draw offhand.) All very true. I was mostly posting an example and spent little time on prices and research in real time. I like the board and processor as it's now over clocked and has given me no trouble. I've had this particular system for some time now. I'm ready to build one more. Your right about the video card but I would be careful with the psu. I've had one go bad and when that happens it can take out more hardware when it goes. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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On 4/20/2014 7:54 PM, DK wrote:
In article , Al Drake wrote: I built a cheap system just for that purpose and did it well. AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor, 2800 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 6 Logical Processor(s) $22.00 This must have been $122, no? I've never seen it going for less than $100, even used. DK The $22.00 is what I found when I searched but that's only the chip. http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Phenom-I...item27e2a7b7cd --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 03:27:56 -0400, Al Drake
wrote: All very true. I was mostly posting an example and spent little time on prices and research in real time. I like the board and processor as it's now over clocked and has given me no trouble. I've had this particular system for some time now. I'm ready to build one more. Your right about the video card but I would be careful with the psu. I've had one go bad and when that happens it can take out more hardware when it goes. That's what I figured (in mention to DK) - you'd found the CPU on Ebay. Must have been your day - six, no wait. . . AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor, 2800 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 6 Logical Processor(s) Had to do that just to wrap my ears around it again. Bear with me, as I've only had duals, so six is sorta rocket science or something. But, wait, there's mo (Once more) for $22;- Stuff from Outer Space, fer sure. Be careful about what you say about power supply units taking out other components. I was trying to tell people I had a bad ASUS MB that was repeatedly taking out Power Supplies. According to common regard, I was informed, a PS has protective circuitry which cannot negatively affect or be complicit as part of a chain causing failure to otherwise good components. That is to include the PS unit itself. Velly, velly well. So much for the smoke I saw arising out from a Sparkle/Fortron unit: Thick and literally as heavy as a proverbial brick, I was so proud to research that unit down, buy, use and own it for several years. 400-watts of pure server grade, as a matter of fact, at least unit my ASUS long last up and "ate" it. As far as PS units do go, though, my motto is nevertheless: do buy, never skimp on the best known quality make you can afford for what you see as your projected need. PS- O- &BTW- I've since been running a set of modest socket-type replacement Gigabyte MBs these days, fwiw. (Heh - not enough space between their ears to mention six cores.) |
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Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:
My old build is 5 years old, and it's fine for everything I do except video editing. I have 2 DVDs of video.... sent many many 8mm rolls off to the lab and had it all scanned to video files.... now I have to go thorough it all, arrange it chronologically, cut out crap and add in transitions. This means lots of rendering.... and the old computer doesn't want to do that very quickly. What parameters are best to optomize for video editing? It seem like multiple threads might help, but I don't know if my editing program (Premier Elements 9) supports that.... and don't know how much memory will speed things up. Does anyone know if a better software program would make things go faster? To which file format has your 8mm film been converted? If .mpg, ideally you don't want to re-render or you will lose quality. Choosing a program which can smart render and only re-render your "transitions" might completely negate your need for a hardware upgrade. |
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 18:01:41 -0700, "Fishface"
wrote: Charlie Hoffpauir wrote: My old build is 5 years old, and it's fine for everything I do except video editing. I have 2 DVDs of video.... sent many many 8mm rolls off to the lab and had it all scanned to video files.... now I have to go thorough it all, arrange it chronologically, cut out crap and add in transitions. This means lots of rendering.... and the old computer doesn't want to do that very quickly. What parameters are best to optomize for video editing? It seem like multiple threads might help, but I don't know if my editing program (Premier Elements 9) supports that.... and don't know how much memory will speed things up. Does anyone know if a better software program would make things go faster? To which file format has your 8mm film been converted? If .mpg, ideally you don't want to re-render or you will lose quality. Choosing a program which can smart render and only re-render your "transitions" might completely negate your need for a hardware upgrade. Now that's interesting! I really don't know much about this, so tomorrow I'll load the DVD and take a look and see exactly what I have, and post back here. |
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 21:50:02 -0500, Charlie Hoffpauir
wrote: On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 18:01:41 -0700, "Fishface" wrote: Charlie Hoffpauir wrote: My old build is 5 years old, and it's fine for everything I do except video editing. I have 2 DVDs of video.... sent many many 8mm rolls off to the lab and had it all scanned to video files.... now I have to go thorough it all, arrange it chronologically, cut out crap and add in transitions. This means lots of rendering.... and the old computer doesn't want to do that very quickly. What parameters are best to optomize for video editing? It seem like multiple threads might help, but I don't know if my editing program (Premier Elements 9) supports that.... and don't know how much memory will speed things up. Does anyone know if a better software program would make things go faster? To which file format has your 8mm film been converted? If .mpg, ideally you don't want to re-render or you will lose quality. Choosing a program which can smart render and only re-render your "transitions" might completely negate your need for a hardware upgrade. Now that's interesting! I really don't know much about this, so tomorrow I'll load the DVD and take a look and see exactly what I have, and post back here. OK, a quick look at the DVD shows that they are all VOB files. some time ago I copied them to my hard drive, and attempted to rename them all in date order, but that's still a mess. I can load these files into Premier Elements, and it will allow me to then combine them, cut out sections, insert transitions, etc., but it seems to want to render before I can leave Premier. Appreciate any suggestions. |
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 22:09:44 -0500, Charlie Hoffpauir
wrote: Appreciate any suggestions. VOB is the standard format for any standard Walmart DVD settop player for a movie disc rental. I'd like to take this opportunity to welcome you to broadcast engineering! . . . http://forum.doom9.org/ (The FCC just passed a law yesterday that will allow ISP carriers to raise the rates on Internet service sites, notably businesses which provide higher bandwidth content. Broadcasting sites, such as NetFlix or Amazon with film and "television" content-for-subscription, are no longer immune under a prior laws governing a WWW "pipelines for all the people all the time." Progressive policy progress probably, if not good enough reason to keep my bandwidth the same and double my rates for the greater glory of general principles.) |
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Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:
OK, a quick look at the DVD shows that they are all VOB files. some time ago I copied them to my hard drive, and attempted to rename them all in date order, but that's still a mess. I can load these files into Premier Elements, and it will allow me to then combine them, cut out sections, insert transitions, etc., but it seems to want to render before I can leave Premier. Appreciate any suggestions. Most likely, the .vob files are containers for mpeg2. Copy one off a DVD and rename the extension to .mpg. Check the properties while it is playing in MPC (Media Player Classic) or whatever app you may have that can show this information. There is an app called Video Redo which has a lot of fans. The TV Suite version says it can import from DVD. It supports smart rendering and can add transitions. There is a free trial, which has an output time limit-- I believe it is 15 minutes. http://www.videoredo.com/en/index.htm When I tried it on .mpg files created by my TV Tuner card (many years ago), the audio became out of sync so I just rage quit and used Mpeg2schnitt, which is free, but requires de-multiplexing to elementary files and then re-multiplexing afterwards. It also does not do transitions. |
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