6800 freezes up, but 6600GT doesnt. (Long post, and maybe TMI)

"One of Many" wrote in message

Ok, what's the rig specs of the two systems? And opsys of each.
Might be able to find something.
McG.



Ok, I've also reread the original post. While you've
over/under/straight clocked the vid card, have you tried running EQ2
with the system clocks at defaults? And is it only EQ2 that's locking
your system up?
McG.

McGrandpa wrote:
"One of Many" wrote in message


Ok, what's the rig specs of the two systems? And opsys of each.
Might be able to find something.
McG.



Ok, I've also reread the original post. While you've
over/under/straight clocked the vid card, have you tried running EQ2
with the system clocks at defaults? And is it only EQ2 that's locking
your system up?
McG.


Yes, default clocks are where the problems showed up at the get go. And
as far as EQ2 being only game that locks up. I probably spend to much
time on that, let alone spending time on another game, heh.

Now that I am using the 6600GT, and everything is working well, it will
be hard to justify to daughter to let me take card back for a while,
seeing as it smokes the 6600. In fact, she has informed me that is HER
card now. Other than the fact that I am missing a few details in
textures, there is not a whole lot of difference between the two. That
and the fact I havent locked up once since the switch.

"One of Many" wrote in message

McGrandpa wrote:
"One of Many" wrote in message


Ok, what's the rig specs of the two systems? And opsys of each.
Might be able to find something.
McG.



Ok, I've also reread the original post. While you've
over/under/straight clocked the vid card, have you tried running EQ2
with the system clocks at defaults? And is it only EQ2 that's
locking your system up?
McG.


Yes, default clocks are where the problems showed up at the get go.
And as far as EQ2 being only game that locks up. I probably spend to
much time on that, let alone spending time on another game, heh.

Now that I am using the 6600GT, and everything is working well, it
will be hard to justify to daughter to let me take card back for a
while, seeing as it smokes the 6600. In fact, she has informed me
that is HER card now. Other than the fact that I am missing a few
details in textures, there is not a whole lot of difference between
the two. That and the fact I havent locked up once since the switch.

Well, honestly then, I can't figure it either. Not without having both
rigs right in front of me. Your rigs are also both PCI E and I don't
have even one of those yet If you ever do find out why it's doing
this in EQ2, I'd appreciate a follow up post
Have a good weekend!
McG.

McGrandpa wrote:
"One of Many" wrote in message


McGrandpa wrote:

"One of Many" wrote in message



Ok, what's the rig specs of the two systems? And opsys of each.
Might be able to find something.
McG.



Ok, I've also reread the original post. While you've
over/under/straight clocked the vid card, have you tried running EQ2
with the system clocks at defaults? And is it only EQ2 that's
locking your system up?
McG.



Yes, default clocks are where the problems showed up at the get go.
And as far as EQ2 being only game that locks up. I probably spend to
much time on that, let alone spending time on another game, heh.

Now that I am using the 6600GT, and everything is working well, it
will be hard to justify to daughter to let me take card back for a
while, seeing as it smokes the 6600. In fact, she has informed me
that is HER card now. Other than the fact that I am missing a few
details in textures, there is not a whole lot of difference between
the two. That and the fact I havent locked up once since the switch.


Well, honestly then, I can't figure it either. Not without having both
rigs right in front of me. Your rigs are also both PCI E and I don't
have even one of those yet If you ever do find out why it's doing
this in EQ2, I'd appreciate a follow up post
Have a good weekend!
McG.


Will do. I thought I was making headway with Sony, but this morning I
find an email that is a standard "Thank for contacting... Please send
the following info..." First guy must have given up. Too bad they cant
compare notes. heh

You have a good weekend too

Thanks

"BILL" wrote in message

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:57:59 -0600, One of Many
wrote:

My new MSI 6800 will lock system up playing Everquest II. I have
tired over and underclocking card. I am currently using 71.84, but
have also tried tried 67.66. I have used Intel Desktop Control
Center to set the following settings to:



Yes how Big is your PSU..?

You need a Good 480/520w one..

NOT Thermaltake..

He has an Antec 480W I think

BILL wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:57:59 -0600, One of Many wrote:


My new MSI 6800 will lock system up playing Everquest II. I have tired
over and underclocking card. I am currently using 71.84, but have also
tried tried 67.66. I have used Intel Desktop Control Center to set the
following settings to:




Yes how Big is your PSU..?

You need a Good 480/520w one..

NOT Thermaltake..


It's an Antec NeoPower 480. Should be plenty.

+5V 38A
+12V1 18A
+12V2 15A
+3.3V 30A
-12V 1A
+5sb 2A

Continuous 480W
Peak 12V(1+2) 32A

One of Many wrote:
My new MSI 6800 will lock system up playing Everquest II. I have tired
over and underclocking card. I am currently using 71.84, but have also
tried tried 67.66. I have used Intel Desktop Control Center to set the
following settings to:

FSB 821
Memory 547
PCI E 104
PCI 36
tRAS 12
CL 4
tRCD 4
tRP 4

Default settings a

FSB 800
Memory 533
PCI E 100
PCI 33
tRAS 12
CL 4
tRCD 4
tRP 4

Other system info is:


Computer:
Operating System Microsoft
Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
Internet Explorer 6.0.2900.2180
(IE 6.0 SP2)
DirectX 4.09.00.0904
(DirectX 9.0c)


Motherboard:
CPU Type 630, 3000 MHz
(15 x 200)
Motherboard Name Intel Battle
Lake D915PBL (4 PCI, 2 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, LAN)
Motherboard Chipset Intel Grantsdale
i915P
System Memory 1024 MB (DDR2
SDRAM)
BIOS Type AMI (01/28/05)
Communication Port Communications
Port (COM1)
Communication Port Printer Port (LPT1)

Display:
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce
6800 (256 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce
6800 PCI-E
Monitor Plug and Play
Monitor [NoDB] (FWUD35104233U)



Number of CPUs 2 (1 Physical)

CPU #1
APIC ID 0
Name Intel Pentium 4 630
Code name Prescott
Specification Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Family/Model/Stepping F43
Extended Family/Model 0/0
Package LGA775
Core Stepping N0
Technology 0.09µ
Instructions Sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64
Clock Speed 3078.3 MHz
Clock multiplier x15.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 205.2 MHz
Bus Speed 820.9 MHz
L1 Data Cache 16 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line
size
L1 Trace Cache 12 Kµops, 8-way set associative
L2 Cache 2048 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 3078.3 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 256 bits

CPU #2 (logical unit)
APIC ID 1
Name Intel Pentium 4 630
Code name Prescott
Specification Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Family/Model/Stepping F43
Extended Family/Model 0/0
Package LGA775
Core Stepping N0
Technology 0.09µ
Instructions Sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64
Clock Speed 3078.3 MHz
Clock multiplier x15.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 205.2 MHz
Bus Speed 820.9 MHz
L1 Data Cache 16 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line
size
L1 Trace Cache 12 Kµops, 8-way set associative
L2 Cache 2048 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 3078.3 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 256 bits




Multimedia:
Audio Adapter Intel 82801FB
ICH6 - High Definition Audio Controller [B-1]

Storage:
IDE Controller Intel(R) 82801FB
Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 2652
IDE Controller Intel(R)
82801FB/FBM Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 266F
Disk Drive Maxtor 6B250S0
(250 GB, 7200 RPM, Serial-ATA/150)
Disk Drive Maxtor 6Y120M0
(120 GB, 7200 RPM, Serial-ATA/150)
Optical Drive PLEXTOR DVDR
PX-716A
SMART Hard Disks Status Unknown



CPU Properties:
CPU Type Unknown
Engineering Sample No
CPUID CPU Name Intel(R)
Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
CPUID Revision 00000F43h

CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 3001.74 MHz
(original: 3000 MHz)
CPU Multiplier 15.0x
CPU FSB 200.12 MHz
(original: 200 MHz)
Memory Bus 266.82 MHz

CPU Cache:
L1 Trace Cache 12K Instructions
L1 Data Cache 16 KB
L2 Cache 2 MB (On-Die,
ECC, ATC, Full-Speed)

Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID
63-0100-000001-00101111-012805-iSPGDL_G$CY915001_BIOS Date: 01/28/05
08:18:41 Ver: 08.
Motherboard Name Intel Battle
Lake D915PBL (4 PCI, 2 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, LAN)

Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset Intel Grantsdale
i915P
Memory Timings 4-4-4-12
(CL-RCD-RP-RAS)



Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID
63-0100-000001-00101111-012805-iSPGDL_G$CY915001_BIOS Date: 01/28/05
08:18:41 Ver: 08.
Motherboard Name Intel Battle
Lake D915PBL

Front Side Bus Properties:
Bus Type Intel NetBurst
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 200 MHz (QDR)
Effective Clock 800 MHz
Bandwidth 6400 MB/s

Memory Bus Properties:
Bus Type Dual DDR2 SDRAM
Bus Width 128-bit
Real Clock 267 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 533 MHz
Bandwidth 8533 MB/s

Chipset Bus Properties:
Bus Type Intel Direct
Media Interface

Motherboard Physical Info:
CPU Sockets/Slots 1 Socket 775
Expansion Slots 4 PCI, 2 PCI-E
x1, 1 PCI-E x16
RAM Slots 4 DDR2 DIMM
Integrated Devices Audio, LAN
Form Factor ATX
Motherboard Size 240 mm x 300 mm
Motherboard Chipset i915P

Motherboard Manufacturer:
Company Name Intel Corporation
Product Information http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/index.htm
BIOS Download http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/genbios.htm


--------[ Memory
]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Physical Memory:
Total 1021 MB
Used 346 MB
Free 675 MB
Utilization 34 %

Swap Space:
Total 2453 MB
Used 243 MB
Free 2210 MB
Utilization 10 %

Virtual Memory:
Total 3475 MB
Used 589 MB
Free 2886 MB
Utilization 17 %


--------[ SPD
]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


[ DIMM1: Micron Tech. 16HTF6464AY-53EB2 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Module Name Micron Tech.
16HTF6464AY-53EB2
Serial Number 0D0CC018h
Manufacture Date Week 4 / 2005
Module Size 512 MB (2 rows,
4 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered
Memory Type DDR2 SDRAM
Memory Speed DDR2-533 (266 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 1.8
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8
us), Self-Refresh

Memory Timings:
@ 266 MHz 4.0-4-4-12
(CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
@ 200 MHz 3.0-3-3-9
(CL-RCD-RP-RAS)

Memory Module Features:
Early RAS# Precharge Supported
Auto-Precharge Not Supported
Precharge All Not Supported
Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Differential Clock Input Not Supported
Redundant Row Address Not Supported

Memory Module Manufacturer:
Company Name Micron
Technology, Inc.
Product Information
http://www.micron.com/products/category.jsp?path=/DRAM

[ DIMM3: Micron Tech. 16HTF6464AY-53EB2 ]

Memory Module Properties:
Module Name Micron Tech.
16HTF6464AY-53EB2
Serial Number 0D0CC019h
Manufacture Date Week 4 / 2005
Module Size 512 MB (2 rows,
4 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered
Memory Type DDR2 SDRAM
Memory Speed DDR2-533 (266 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 1.8
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8
us), Self-Refresh

Memory Timings:
@ 266 MHz 4.0-4-4-12
(CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
@ 200 MHz 3.0-3-3-9
(CL-RCD-RP-RAS)

Memory Module Features:
Early RAS# Precharge Supported
Auto-Precharge Not Supported
Precharge All Not Supported
Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Differential Clock Input Not Supported
Redundant Row Address Not Supported

Memory Module Manufacturer:
Company Name Micron
Technology, Inc.
Product Information
http://www.micron.com/products/category.jsp?path=/DRAM


--------[ Chipset
]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


[ North Bridge: Intel Grantsdale i915P ]

North Bridge Properties:
North Bridge Intel Grantsdale
i915P
Revision / Stepping 00 / A0
Package Type 1210 Pin FC-BGA
Package Size 3.75 cm x 3.75 cm
Core Voltage 1.5 V
In-Order Queue Depth 12

Memory Controller:
Type Dual Channel
(128-bit)
Active Mode Dual Channel
(128-bit)

Memory Timings:
CAS Latency (CL) 4T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 4T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 4T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 12T

Error Correction:
ECC Not Supported
ChipKill ECC Not Supported
ECC Scrubbing Not Supported

Memory Slots:
DRAM Slot #1 512 MB (DDR2
SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #2 512 MB (DDR2
SDRAM)

PCI Express Controller:
PCI-E x16 port #2 In Use @ x16
(nVIDIA GeForce 6800 PCI-E Video Adapter)

Chipset Manufacturer:
Company Name Intel Corporation
Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/chipsets.htm
Driver Download http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/index.htm

[ South Bridge: Intel 82801FR ICH6R ]

South Bridge Properties:
South Bridge Intel 82801FR ICH6R
Revision / Stepping D3 / B1
Package Type 609 Pin mBGA
Package Size 3.1 cm x 3.1 cm
Core Voltage 1.5 V

PCI Express Controller:
PCI-E x1 port #1 Empty
PCI-E x1 port #2 Empty
PCI-E x1 port #3 Empty
PCI-E x1 port #4 Empty

Chipset Manufacturer:
Company Name Intel Corporation
Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/chipsets.htm
Driver Download http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/index.htm



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]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Operating System Properties:
OS Name Microsoft
Windows XP Professional
OS Code Name Whistler
OS Language English (United
States)
OS Kernel Type Multiprocessor Free
OS Version 5.1.2600 (WinXP
Retail)
OS Service Pack Service Pack 2
OS Installation Date 3/18/2005
OS Root C:\WINDOWS


UpTime 6595 sec (0
days, 1 hours, 49 min, 55 sec)

Components Version:
Common Controls 6.00
Internet Explorer 6.0.2900.2180
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Internet Explorer Updates SP2
Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
(xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Windows Media Player 10.00.00.3646
MSN Messenger -
Internet Information Services -
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Novell Client -
DirectX 4.09.00.0904
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OpenGL 5.1.2600.2180
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ASPI -

SPD Memory Modules:
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DDR2 SDRAM (4.0-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz) (3.0-3-3-9 @ 200 MHz)
DIMM3: Micron Tech. 16HTF6464AY-53EB2 512 MB DDR2-533
DDR2 SDRAM (4.0-4-4-12 @ 266 MHz) (3.0-3-3-9 @ 200 MHz)

BIOS Properties:
System BIOS Date 01/28/05
Video BIOS Date 10/18/04
DMI BIOS Version CY91510A.86A.0031.2005.0128.0818

Graphics Processor Properties:
DirectX 4.09.00.0904
(DirectX 9.0c)

Sensor Properties:
Tsystem 40 °C (104 °F)
Tcpu 52 °C (126 °F)
Taux 40 °C (104 °F)
Fcpu 2240 RPM
Fsystem 1599 RPM
Fcase 1090 RPM
Fpowersupply 1364 RPM
Vcore 1.35 V
V2.5 1.50 V
Vio 3.30 V


[ Memory Controller ]

Memory Controller Properties:
Error Detection Method 64-bit ECC
Error Correction None
Supported Memory Interleave 1-Way
Current Memory Interleave 1-Way
Supported Memory Speeds 70ns, 60ns
Supported Memory Types SPM, FPM, EDO,
Parity, ECC, SIMM, DIMM, BEDO, SDRAM
Supported Memory Voltages 3.3V
Maximum Memory Module Size 1024 MB
Memory Slots 4







I should note that this card works fine in another box. Same driver, but
540 proc on another 915 MB. The MSI 6600GT from that box works fine on
this box, but just a bit laggier, and some textures seem to be missing.
(Barely noticeable, and may be just me)

Any ideas?
I have reread this and one thing I didnt try is spellcheck. Whew! sorry