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I have a Asus Strix 750ti GPU. It has 2GB of onboard video memory and
uses 8GB of shared system memory. According to its specifications, it can apparently handle 3840x2160 resolution. I have been happily running a monitor (Dell UltraSharp 2407wfp) at 1900x1200 native resolution. It's got about 12 years on it. I don't really do computing which pushes the video card harder than casual games. If I were to upgrade to a 4k monitor (3840x2160 resolution), would I likely be pleased or unsatisfied with the results? By rough math, I think I would use about 4 times as much memory (but I don't know how to see how much I am actually using now!) That's assuming that 4k uses 32-bit color too, Mainly I like "sharp crisp text". Somehow,after reading some reviews, I ended up considering the Dell 2721Q monitor (which is almost $500). It seems as you get bigger screens you need finer resolution to get "sharp crisp text"! ; ) (duh!) Anyone following GPUs in the news knows that this is a rather poor time to be in the market for a GPU. Any comments or suggestions based upon your experience is welcome! Bill |
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Bill wrote:
I have a Asus Strix 750ti GPU.Â* It has 2GB of onboard video memory and uses 8GB of shared system memory.Â* According to its specifications, it can apparently handle 3840x2160 resolution. I have been happily running a monitor (Dell UltraSharp 2407wfp) at 1900x1200 native resolution. It's got about 12 years on it. I don't really do computing which pushes the video card harder than casual games. If I were to upgrade to a 4k monitor (3840x2160 resolution), would I likely be pleased or unsatisfied with the results?Â* By rough math, I think I would use about 4 times as much memory (but I don't know how to see how much I am actually using now!)Â*Â* That's assuming that 4k uses 32-bit color too,Â*Â* Mainly I like "sharp crisp text".Â* Somehow,after reading some reviews, I ended up considering the Dell 2721Q monitor (which is almost $500).Â* It seems as you get bigger screens you need finer resolution to get "sharp crisp text"! ; )Â*Â* (duh!)Â*Â* Anyone following GPUs in the news knows that this is a rather poor time to be in the market for a GPU. Any comments or suggestions based upon your experience is welcome! Bill P.S. I should add that I would intend to use DisplayPort (v 1.4) connector instead of DVI. |
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Bill wrote:
Bill wrote: I have a Asus Strix 750ti GPU. It has 2GB of onboard video memory and uses 8GB of shared system memory. According to its specifications, it can apparently handle 3840x2160 resolution. I have been happily running a monitor (Dell UltraSharp 2407wfp) at 1900x1200 native resolution. It's got about 12 years on it. I don't really do computing which pushes the video card harder than casual games. If I were to upgrade to a 4k monitor (3840x2160 resolution), would I likely be pleased or unsatisfied with the results? By rough math, I think I would use about 4 times as much memory (but I don't know how to see how much I am actually using now!) That's assuming that 4k uses 32-bit color too, Mainly I like "sharp crisp text". Somehow,after reading some reviews, I ended up considering the Dell 2721Q monitor (which is almost $500). It seems as you get bigger screens you need finer resolution to get "sharp crisp text"! ; ) (duh!) Anyone following GPUs in the news knows that this is a rather poor time to be in the market for a GPU. Any comments or suggestions based upon your experience is welcome! Bill P.S. I should add that I would intend to use DisplayPort (v 1.4) connector instead of DVI. You would check the standards support of your existing video card, and see if the standard supports 60Hz operation at the resolution of interest. Wikipedia articles on HDMI and DisplayPort, have various tables for this issue. One possible issue, is the version of HDCP. They don't figure it out here, so I don't know what the issue is exactly. Will the OS agree to run 4K without HDCP ? The hardware likely allows it, but the OS tunes for max DRM. Video cards have had "added evil" to stop copying, and the OS only has to tap into those calls, to sew up the copy hole. https://forums.tomshardware.com/thre...50-ti.2621525/ And no, I don't have a 4K monitor here. I've got two monitors on my desk (run by two computers), and there isn't room for some huge monitor. The reason the two monitors are on my desk, is the second computer runs video conference, and the second computer is further away, and less noise into my microphone. My lashup is there so I can video conference, without fan noise from the first computer being powered up. I will be glad when some day, this video conference fetish will have ended. The last video conference was a flop, when I couldn't log into the damn thing. I had to take a phone call instead (which as it happens, is all that was required anyway). Paul |
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Paul wrote:
Bill wrote: Bill wrote: I have a Asus Strix 750ti GPU.Â* It has 2GB of onboard video memory and uses 8GB of shared system memory.Â* According to its specifications, it can apparently handle 3840x2160 resolution. I have been happily running a monitor (Dell UltraSharp 2407wfp) at 1900x1200 native resolution. It's got about 12 years on it. I don't really do computing which pushes the video card harder than casual games. If I were to upgrade to a 4k monitor (3840x2160 resolution), would I likely be pleased or unsatisfied with the results?Â* By rough math, I think I would use about 4 times as much memory (but I don't know how to see how much I am actually using now!)Â*Â* That's assuming that 4k uses 32-bit color too,Â*Â* Mainly I like "sharp crisp text". Somehow,after reading some reviews, I ended up considering the Dell 2721Q monitor (which is almost $500).Â* It seems as you get bigger screens you need finer resolution to get "sharp crisp text"! ; ) (duh!)Â*Â* Anyone following GPUs in the news knows that this is a rather poor time to be in the market for a GPU. Any comments or suggestions based upon your experience is welcome! Bill P.S. I should add that I would intend to use DisplayPort (v 1.4) connector instead of DVI. You would check the standards support of your existing video card, and see if the standard supports 60Hz operation at the resolution of interest. Wikipedia articles on HDMI and DisplayPort, have various tables for this issue. One possible issue, is the version of HDCP. They don't figure it out here, so I don't know what the issue is exactly. Will the OS agree to run 4K without HDCP ? The hardware likely allows it, but the OS tunes for max DRM. Video cards have had "added evil" to stop copying, and the OS only has to tap into those calls, to sew up the copy hole. https://forums.tomshardware.com/thre...50-ti.2621525/ And no, I don't have a 4K monitor here. I've got two monitors on my desk (run by two computers), and there isn't room for some huge monitor. In my "office" I have 2 desks, I have a desk with a computer on it and a kitchen table I have been using as a desk for 36 years now--time flies! Your post is helpful! If will at the very minimum motivate me to learn what HDCP is---I've run in that before! : ) Paying a premium price for a monitor to run at a non-premium resolution doesn't make sense, so I will get this sorted out. I strive to build quiet computers. I start with a quiet power supply and include quiet GPU (with "semi-passive cooling"). It's fan only kicks in when it needs to. There is a bit more to the complete strategy than this, but it starts during the "design" stage. You know more about computer than I do, so there is no sense in me rambling on... ; ) Everything is a compromise... The reason the two monitors are on my desk, is the second computer runs video conference, and the second computer is further away, and less noise into my microphone. My lashup is there so I can video conference, without fan noise from the first computer being powered up. I will be glad when some day, this video conference fetish will have ended. The last video conference was a flop, when I couldn't log into the damn thing. I had to take a phone call instead (which as it happens, is all that was required anyway). Â*Â* Paul |
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 00:25:57 -0400, Bill wrote:
| I have a Asus Strix 750ti GPU. It has 2GB of onboard video memory and | uses 8GB of shared system memory. According to its specifications, it | can apparently handle 3840x2160 resolution. | | I have been happily running a monitor (Dell UltraSharp 2407wfp) at | 1900x1200 native resolution. It's got about 12 years on it. I don't | really do computing which pushes the video card harder than casual games. | | If I were to upgrade to a 4k monitor (3840x2160 resolution), would I | likely be pleased or unsatisfied with the results? By rough math, I | think I would use about 4 times as much memory (but I don't know how to | see how much I am actually using now!) That's assuming that 4k uses | 32-bit color too, Mainly I like "sharp crisp text". Somehow,after | reading some reviews, I ended up considering the Dell 2721Q monitor | (which is almost $500). It seems as you get bigger screens you need | finer resolution to get "sharp crisp text"! ; ) (duh!) Anyone | following GPUs in the news knows that this is a rather poor time to be | in the market for a GPU. | | Any comments or suggestions based upon your experience is welcome! I had a 27" 4K monitor plugged into the display port on an EVGA GTX 750ti for a few weeks while I was waiting for another GPU and 3840x2160 @60Hz worked perfectly. It's not a great setup for gaming, but 4K streaming is outstanding. Larc |
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Larc wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 00:25:57 -0400, Bill wrote: | I have a Asus Strix 750ti GPU. It has 2GB of onboard video memory and | uses 8GB of shared system memory. According to its specifications, it | can apparently handle 3840x2160 resolution. | | I have been happily running a monitor (Dell UltraSharp 2407wfp) at | 1900x1200 native resolution. It's got about 12 years on it. I don't | really do computing which pushes the video card harder than casual games. | | If I were to upgrade to a 4k monitor (3840x2160 resolution), would I | likely be pleased or unsatisfied with the results? By rough math, I | think I would use about 4 times as much memory (but I don't know how to | see how much I am actually using now!) That's assuming that 4k uses | 32-bit color too, Mainly I like "sharp crisp text". Somehow,after | reading some reviews, I ended up considering the Dell 2721Q monitor | (which is almost $500). It seems as you get bigger screens you need | finer resolution to get "sharp crisp text"! ; ) (duh!) Anyone | following GPUs in the news knows that this is a rather poor time to be | in the market for a GPU. | | Any comments or suggestions based upon your experience is welcome! I had a 27" 4K monitor plugged into the display port on an EVGA GTX 750ti for a few weeks while I was waiting for another GPU and 3840x2160 @60Hz worked perfectly. It's not a great setup for gaming, but 4K streaming is outstanding. Larc Thank you Larc! That is encouraging. |
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Larc wrote:
| Any comments or suggestions based upon your experience is welcome! I had a 27" 4K monitor plugged into the display port on an EVGA GTX 750ti for a few weeks while I was waiting for another GPU and 3840x2160 @60Hz worked perfectly. It's not a great setup for gaming, but 4K streaming is outstanding. Larc Larc, When you used the DisplayPort, did you have to switch to using the audio via the monitor (aux?) or were you able to still get audio (5.1 in my case) directly using the various audio connectors on the card (as you did when you were using DVI)? To my thinking, it sounds like a lot to ask to get 5.1 through an "aux" connection. Thanks! Bill |
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Larc, When you used the DisplayPort, did you have to switch to using the audio via the monitor (aux?) or were you able to still get audio (5.1 in my case)Â* directly using the various audio connectors on the card (as you did when you were using DVI)?Â*Â* To my thinking, it sounds like a lot to ask to get 5.1 through an "aux" connection.Â*Â* Thanks! Bill Here is an attempt to clarify my question: Can I use DisplayPort and the output audio jacks on my GPU at the same time? BTW, I was found the Dell 4k Model S2721QS to be more inline with my needs and budget. It's supposed to be around $340, but it's not currently in stock anywhere. In case, anyone else is looking, at think it's the "sweetspot" between price and features (if you don't require USB jacks on your monitor). |
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Here is an attempt to clarify my question:Â* Can I use DisplayPort and the output audio jacks on my GPU at the same time? It occurs to me now that the audio jacks are on the mainboard, so this should be a no-brainer. It's curious how the GPU could even get the audio--maybe in a different application of the DisplayPort (i.e. in a different device)... |
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Bill wrote:
Bill wrote: Here is an attempt to clarify my question: Can I use DisplayPort and the output audio jacks on my GPU at the same time? It occurs to me now that the audio jacks are on the mainboard, so this should be a no-brainer. It's curious how the GPU could even get the audio--maybe in a different application of the DisplayPort (i.e. in a different device)... Modern digital display standards have multiplexed audio in the stream. VGA was analog and doesn't have it. DVI is digital and doesn't have it. HDMI and DP have it. 8 channel LPCM (check Wikipedia articles for more details). There are Dolby options but nobody cared. With 8 channel Linear Pulse Code Modulation, there is no compression, just 8 channels in plaintext. Receiving devices (computer monitors with speakers, TV sets, TV sets with passthru soundbar) receive 8 channel LPCM. They don't need a license for it. No royalty to pay to Dolby. You select digital audio in the Windows playback options. The word "NVidia" might be involved (because we want the muxed audio to be on the video cable, not RealTek digital via SPDIF or TOSLink). You'd set the audio model to 2 channel audio, because the monitor has two speakers, and you want the mixdown, the head-model, to be used for any audio transforms. Your source material could be 5.1, and you want the sub signal to get mixed back into the two speakers, for a fuller sound. Computer monitor speakers usually suck. And the time I've taken to write this, is likely wasted. Your regular computer speakers, hooked to the 1/8" Line Out and friends, likely sounds better, because you can use ported amplified bookshelf speakers instead. For example, Skybuck had a 500W amp setup, with ten channels of Class D amplification, three channels in parallel driving the sub, seven other channels for the other speakers. Putting the 3W monitor speakers to shame :-) My setup is quite a bit less than that. To use the regular computer speakers, you use Analog Line Out and a setting of 2 channel stereo if you have two speakers. Etc. Popular audio models are 2.0 (stereo), 2.1 (stereo+sub), 5.1 (four+center+sub), 7.1 (six+center+sub). If you send computer ---- TVSet --- soundbar, then the audio model selected in Windows, would be whatever the soundbar model is. If the soundbar claims to be 5.1, then you'd set Windows to 5.1. The soundbar is going to sound better than typical LCD monitor speakers. No matter how you get audio, it's always over-priced. And the high-powered setups, like the one Skybuck used to have, they don't necessarily last, because the amp is placed inside the sub and it tends to "cook" for want of a better word. Even if the volume isn't turned up, the air inside the sub can be toasty warm. Amps really belong in their own cabinet (like my home-made one, it never gets even a little bit warm). Paul |
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