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Tape Backup
I am looking for opinions on what a decent tape backup for a PC
workstation might be, somewhere around 40 gigs or so, speed is not the biggest issue, mostly being reasonablly priced and around 40 gigs (give or take a few). I'm wondering what people think the better brands are for this type of applications, and if possible, a suggestion on a model. Thanks |
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I am a fan of hard disk storage used for backup, BUT, I was recently in a
computer store and saw a product marketed by ZIP that had a storage capacity of (I think) 35-90GB. I think it was tape. Knowing ZIP products are marketed towards the average PC user (and priced accordingly), you might want to browse their website and see what they have to offer. --Dan wrote in message oups.com... I am looking for opinions on what a decent tape backup for a PC workstation might be, somewhere around 40 gigs or so, speed is not the biggest issue, mostly being reasonablly priced and around 40 gigs (give or take a few). I'm wondering what people think the better brands are for this type of applications, and if possible, a suggestion on a model. Thanks |
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What do you consider "reasonably priced"? I used to use an Onstream tape drive for backups. But it died and Onstream has been
out of business for two years. I am currently looking at external HDD for backup. I shopped around for tape drives. I found the least expensive being $1,099. and that was for a 10 GB tape drive. Whoa, Travan tape drives are very reasonably priced ! 20/40 GB for $299 and the tapes are $40 each. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...113-121&depa=0 But, I would use an external hard drive with Robocopy. Lynn |
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Lynn wrote:
What do you consider "reasonably priced"? I used to use an Onstream tape drive for backups. But it died and Onstream has been out of business for two years. I am currently looking at external HDD for backup. I shopped around for tape drives. I found the least expensive being $1,099. and that was for a 10 GB tape drive. Whoa, Travan tape drives are very reasonably priced ! 20/40 GB for $299 and the tapes are $40 each. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...113-121&depa=0 Travan drives are pieces of **** and the tapes cost more than 200 gig LTOs. Tape drives are one place where you get what you pay for. Think about it--40 bucks a pop for 20 gig tapes (forget the "20/40" crap, they're 20 gig) vs 46 for a 40 gig disk. But, I would use an external hard drive with Robocopy. Lynn -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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dg wrote:
I am a fan of hard disk storage used for backup, BUT, I was recently in a computer store and saw a product marketed by ZIP that had a storage capacity of (I think) 35-90GB. I think it was tape. Knowing ZIP products are marketed towards the average PC user (and priced accordingly), you might want to browse their website and see what they have to offer. It's an Iomega product but it's not a Zip and it's not a tape, it's called a "REV" and it's a removable-media disk. The drive is 300 bucks and the disks cost about the same as hard disks of slightly larger capacity. --Dan wrote in message oups.com... I am looking for opinions on what a decent tape backup for a PC workstation might be, somewhere around 40 gigs or so, speed is not the biggest issue, mostly being reasonablly priced and around 40 gigs (give or take a few). I'm wondering what people think the better brands are for this type of applications, and if possible, a suggestion on a model. Thanks -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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In article , Lynn
writes Whoa, Travan tape drives are very reasonably priced ! They're also a pile of unreliable ****e. 20/40 GB for $299 and the tapes are $40 each. I pity you if you think $40 per tape is "reasonably priced". -- ..sigmonster on vacation |
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Arno,
Why are CD-R and DVD+-R unreliable and short lived? I really don't know. You say HDD are reliable and medium life. I have never dropped a hard drive, but I have dropped a lot of backup CD-R, and I am guessing that the CD-R tolerate physical abuse a lot better. Now granted, I have burned many a Drive Image CD, only to find that they don't verify correctly. I never did understand where exactly the problem was in that, was it software, burner, or medium? I guess that would qualify as unreliable. It was be pretty devastating to try to restore a CD-R image only to find that it was invalid and was your only backup. Actually, I think that has happened to me before, I seem to remember. Is a validated CD-R still unreliable and short-lived? I have some old HDD on a shelf in anti-static bags, and I don't consider them particularly convenient. Also, how long does a HDD hold data before it starts to corrupt? IMF |
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Irwin wrote:
Arno, Why are CD-R and DVD+-R unreliable and short lived? Whether they are or not depends on the particular chemistry--some last a good long time when properly stored but don't count on it unless you're sure you know what you're getting. I really don't know. You say HDD are reliable and medium life. I have never dropped a hard drive, but I have dropped a lot of backup CD-R, and I am guessing that the CD-R tolerate physical abuse a lot better. Some kinds yes, others no. A hard disk shock-mounted in a removable tray will take quite a lot of abuse, a laptop drive even more. One thing you are not going to do is scratch the data off a hard disk by dragging something across it. Now granted, I have burned many a Drive Image CD, only to find that they don't verify correctly. I never did understand where exactly the problem was in that, was it software, burner, or medium? I guess that would qualify as unreliable. It was be pretty devastating to try to restore a CD-R image only to find that it was invalid and was your only backup. Actually, I think that has happened to me before, I seem to remember. Is a validated CD-R still unreliable and short-lived? I have some old HDD on a shelf in anti-static bags, and I don't consider them particularly convenient. Also, how long does a HDD hold data before it starts to corrupt? Put those disks in inexpensive trays and they become a lot more convenient. You'll find that disk is actually competitive with travan tape in cost and is much more flexible in terms of options for backup strategies (you can use anything from xcopy to high end enterprise backup software, you can back up to RAID, can do all sorts of things that you can't do with tape) and vastly superior in terms of transfer rate and scalability (when you need 200 gig of backup, if there is a Travan that large available at all it's not going to be cheap and won't use your existing tapes, but stick a 250 gig disk in a tray and it plugs right in where your old 40 came out, with no changes at all needed. As to how long a hard disk holds data, I don't know a specific answer to that--I've never had one lose data that had not failed outright. Since they depend on magnetic servo tracks for their operation they should hold data uncorrupted as long as the drive operates. IMF -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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