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What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits on CDs?
At Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:26:01 +0100 Benjamin Gawert wrote:
* raylopez99: I have not been able to get a straight answer to this, despite almost a year of trying. Maybe then this time you should take the time and at least check what you really have? "...about 200 MHz clock, with about 500 MB RAM (or maybe it's 225.." and "...It has a late 90s but popular video card, forget the brand...." is worth nothing. There is no PentiumII 200MHz, so either it is a Pentium 200 or a PentiumII with Pentium Pros were available at 200mhz -- not labeled as PIIs, but were 686 processors and thus effectively PIIs in all but name. I'm guessing that the OP has one of these (and the vintage is about right). I used a 200mhz Pentium Pro box at UMass until I was laid off in Nov of 2005 -- at the time I had the oldest and slowest desktop in the lab were I worked -- a sort of point of pride -- I kept *refusing* newer boxes, since I liked that old box -- it worked well and I was confortable with it. higher clock speed. If it's a Pentium then you won't have much fun running Linux on it, too (except maybe for use as a router or file server). Same about memory (exact size and type), the mainboard and also the gfx card. You also want to check the gfx card because it won't give you much fun if it's not supported by Linux. Most *older* graphic cards are supported on some level. Graphics cards that are supported are cheap -- almost any nVidia PCI or AGP card is supported. If you expect people to help you the least thing you can do is to provide accurate details. Benjamin -- Robert Heller -- Get the Deepwoods Software FireFox Toolbar! Deepwoods Software -- Linux Installation and Administration http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Web Hosting, with CGI and Database -- Contract Programming: C/C++, Tcl/Tk |
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What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits on CDs?
On Jun 28, 5:38*am, Robert Heller wrote:
I used a 200mhz Pentium Pro box at UMass until I was laid off in Nov of 2005 -- at the time I had the oldest and slowest desktop in the lab were I worked -- a sort of point of pride -- I kept *refusing* newer boxes, since I liked that old box -- it worked well and I was confortable with it. Uh, ok. But maybe that's why you were fired? (using old equipment) Probably not, but the thought comes to mind. Do you have a vote on a min hardware distro? It's surprising how un-helpful Linux advocates are. Their main point-- and indeed only point--is not to waste bandwidth answering trolls. Back in the days when bandwidth was limited and the Internet was government owned, that was a good point, but no more; however, Linux users are stuck in the past, still fighting the battle that was settled by litigation 10+ years ago, that MSFT charges vendors for Windows regardless of what OS is actually loaded...that is so, what, 1995? BTW If you don't believe I am sincere, at least answer the questions raised for the benefit of people Googling this issue in the future. RL |
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What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits on CDs?
In comp.os.linux.advocacy raylopez99 wrote:
BTW If you don't believe I am sincere, at least answer the questions raised for the benefit of people Googling this issue in the future. Can't come up with your own ideas? Note to readers. That's almost word for word what I put at the bottom of my first reply to this waster. "NB: this is not for the benefit of lopez, but for anyone googling in the future" If there's anything lopez lacks, it's sincerity. All he cares about is fud, and he's been chucking a lot of that about in this thread so far, hasn't he? -- | | Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a | | | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit | | Andrew Halliwell BSc | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit | | in |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that| | Computer Science | can't stand 1 bit of competition. | |
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What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits on CDs?
On Jun 29, 2:28*am, Andrew Halliwell wrote:
In comp.os.linux.advocacy raylopez99 wrote: BTW If you don't believe I am sincere, at least answer the questions raised for the benefit of people Googling this issue in the future. Can't come up with your own ideas? Note to readers. That's almost word for word what I put at the bottom of my first reply to this waster. "NB: this is not for the benefit of lopez, but for anyone googling in the future" Android--you're STILL going to hell--stzzzzzz--that's the smell and sound of human flesh burning. Not too late though...Jesus loves you. But do you have any constructive comments about Linux for my question? As I type this, based on other replies, I am downloading Vector Linux-but since the download speed is apparently deliberately crippled (to get more money out of users), a simple 600 MB download is going to take 3 hours +. Tell me seriously, hell-fire and brimstone boy, do you actually use Linux? Does it ever crash on you? How often? Windows NT and 2000 are super stable--I've rarely gotten the BSOD except when first configuring stuff on it. Once stable, it's stable. Is Linux the same? Let's hear how "honest" you are, hell boy. RL |
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What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits on CDs?
In comp.os.linux.advocacy raylopez99 wrote:
But do you have any constructive comments about Linux for my question? I gave my ha'penny's worth days ago, which you of course chose to ignore. (along with everynoe else who gave you advice) -- | | Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a | | | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit | | Andrew Halliwell BSc | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit | | in |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that| | Computer Science | can't stand 1 bit of competition. | |
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What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits on CDs?
At Sun, 29 Jun 2008 02:10:46 -0700 (PDT) raylopez99 wrote:
On Jun 28, 5:38=A0am, Robert Heller wrote: I used a 200mhz Pentium Pro box at UMass until I was laid off in Nov of 2005 -- at the time I had the oldest and slowest desktop in the lab were I worked -- a sort of point of pride -- I kept *refusing* newer boxes, since I liked that old box -- it worked well and I was confortable with it. Uh, ok. But maybe that's why you were fired? (using old equipment) Probably not, but the thought comes to mind. I wasn't 'fired' -- I was laid off due to lack of funding. Do you have a vote on a min hardware distro? I already answered that: I have used CentOS (4) on some fairly old hardware. It's surprising how un-helpful Linux advocates are. Their main point-- and indeed only point--is not to waste bandwidth answering trolls. Back in the days when bandwidth was limited and the Internet was government owned, that was a good point, but no more; however, Linux users are stuck in the past, still fighting the battle that was settled by litigation 10+ years ago, that MSFT charges vendors for Windows regardless of what OS is actually loaded...that is so, what, 1995? BTW If you don't believe I am sincere, at least answer the questions raised for the benefit of people Googling this issue in the future. RL -- Robert Heller -- Get the Deepwoods Software FireFox Toolbar! Deepwoods Software -- Linux Installation and Administration http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Web Hosting, with CGI and Database -- Contract Programming: C/C++, Tcl/Tk |
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What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits onCDs?
Robert Heller wrote (in part):
At Sun, 29 Jun 2008 02:10:46 -0700 (PDT) raylopez99 wrote: Do you have a vote on a min hardware distro? I already answered that: I have used CentOS (4) on some fairly old hardware. I run CentOS4 on my "old" machine, a dual 550 MHz Pentium III machine with 512 MBytes RAM that I got in early 2000. So it is a little over 8 years old. CentOS4 runs perfectly well there. The oldest machine I had (now gone) had about 166 MHz Pentiun with 64 Megs RAM. It ran Red Hat Linux 7.3 OK, but it did not run RHL 9 very well because it was thrashing the disk. I upped the RAM to 128 Megs and that stopped the thrashing. I raised it to 256 Megs but that did not make much difference. The main trouble with it was that the 166MHz processor was just too slow. I am not sure if my "new" machine is still considered new as I built it myself and started running it in March 2004. It runs RHEL5 just fine still; I started it with RHEL3. It was almost state of the art then, but surely is no longer. Dual 3.06 GHz Xeon processors, 8 GBytes RAM, 10,000 rpm Ultra/320 SCSI hard drives, ... . But these days, 4 year old machines are already considered fairly old by some. -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 08:20:01 up 3 days, 17:40, 4 users, load average: 4.10, 4.07, 4.11 |
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What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits onCDs?
* Robert Heller:
Pentium Pros were available at 200mhz -- not labeled as PIIs, but were 686 processors and thus effectively PIIs in all but name. Definitely not. There are several non-minor differences between a Pentium Pro and Pentium II. I'm guessing that the OP has one of these It can be a Pentium Pro 200, it can be a Pentium 200, it can be a Pentium 200 MMX, it can be a Pentium II 233+, who knows. Guessing is just a waste of time. Most *older* graphic cards are supported on some level. Yes, as frame buffer device. Nothing someone really wants to work with. Graphics cards that are supported are cheap -- almost any nVidia PCI or AGP card is supported. Investing anything in a 200MHz computer is more or less just a waste as a much faster P3 (500+Mhz) can be had for almost nothing today. Benjamin |
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What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits onCDs?
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Benjamin Gawert wrote: Investing anything in a 200MHz computer is more or less just a waste as a much faster P3 (500+Mhz) can be had for almost nothing today. Well yes. I bought a used 200MHz Pentium in mid-2001 to run Linux. The next year, I found a nearly identical system lying on the sidewalk waiting for the garbage truck. Almost five years ago I was given this hand me down 1GHz computer, so basically I'm not paying attention to what's being thrown out these days. But surely it's better than 200MHz. A few weeks ago, I did finally find a computer with a 256meg DIMM in it, so I'm finally up to 512megs, the maximum of this computer. In retrospect, given that memory I should have taken a closer look to see if it was better than this one. At this point it likely is time to see better computers waiting for the garbage. Certainly, I'm seeing 1GHz or slightly better in local ads around the $40 mark. Michael |
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