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Overclocking with more clocks
Is it possible to use a billion 1Hz clocks to make a clock rate of 1 GHz?
How would this be done? Thanks |
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Curious wrote:
Is it possible to use a billion 1Hz clocks to make a clock rate of 1 GHz? How would this be done? Most 1Hz "clocks" use a higher frequency standard, and divide down from there. If the frequency standard was 1MHz for example, one could multiply it 1000 times to get 1GHz at the same standard frequency base as the 1Hz "clock". There are many kinds of multiply and divide circuits. Virg Wall -- A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds,........ Ralph Waldo Emerson (Microsoft programmer's manual.) |
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No.
Not really possible, you could make lower frequencies eg 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 Hz but not higher ones (well you might manage 2 and 4 Hz possibly) "Curious" wrote in message om... Is it possible to use a billion 1Hz clocks to make a clock rate of 1 GHz? How would this be done? Thanks |
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"half_pint" wrote in message ...
No. Not really possible, you could make lower frequencies eg 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 Hz but not higher ones (well you might manage 2 and 4 Hz possibly) "Curious" wrote in message om... Is it possible to use a billion 1Hz clocks to make a clock rate of 1 GHz? How would this be done? Thanks Nerves can fire up to 1 KHz max. At pitches above 1 KHz our cochlea makes-up for this by firing different lines of neurons at succesive cycles. http://www.cns.nyu.edu/~msl/courses/...tch/pitch.html "Volley Principle: The volley principle reconciles the fact that the cochlear microphonic mimics the sound pressure waves with the implausibility of the temporal code. Wever suggested that while one neuron alone could not carry the temporal code for a 20,000 Hz tone, 20 neurons, with staggered firing rates, could. Each neuron would respond on average to every 20th cycle of the pure tone, and the pooled neural responses would jointly contain the information that a 20,000 hz tone was being presented." "Phase Locking is an empirical observation that supports the volley principle. When 8th nerve neurons fire action potentials, they tend to respond at times corresponding to a peak in the sound pressure waveform, i.e., when the basilar membrane moves up. The result of this is that there are a bunch of neurons firing near the peak of each and every cycle of a pure tone. No individual neuron can respond to every cycle of a sound signal, so there must be different neurons firing on successive cycles. Nonetheless, when they do respond they tend to fire together." Is it possible design an overclocking scheme similar to that of the cochlea? |
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"Curious" wrote in message om... "half_pint" wrote in message ... No. Not really possible, you could make lower frequencies eg 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 Hz but not higher ones (well you might manage 2 and 4 Hz possibly) "Curious" wrote in message om... Is it possible to use a billion 1Hz clocks to make a clock rate of 1 GHz? How would this be done? Thanks Nerves can fire up to 1 KHz max. At pitches above 1 KHz our cochlea makes-up for this by firing different lines of neurons at succesive cycles. http://www.cns.nyu.edu/~msl/courses/...tch/pitch.html "Volley Principle: The volley principle reconciles the fact that the cochlear microphonic mimics the sound pressure waves with the implausibility of the temporal code. Wever suggested that while one neuron alone could not carry the temporal code for a 20,000 Hz tone, 20 neurons, with staggered firing rates, could. Each neuron would respond on average to every 20th cycle of the pure tone, and the pooled neural responses would jointly contain the information that a 20,000 hz tone was being presented." "Phase Locking is an empirical observation that supports the volley principle. When 8th nerve neurons fire action potentials, they tend to respond at times corresponding to a peak in the sound pressure waveform, i.e., when the basilar membrane moves up. The result of this is that there are a bunch of neurons firing near the peak of each and every cycle of a pure tone. No individual neuron can respond to every cycle of a sound signal, so there must be different neurons firing on successive cycles. Nonetheless, when they do respond they tend to fire together." Is it possible design an overclocking scheme similar to that of the cochlea? I think the trouble is you need a 1 ghz clock to syncronise the waves. So yes, you can make a 1 ghz clock, *if* you already have one. |
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Yes, it is the offset that is the bear... Plus, I assume you are referring
to the cheap xtal oscillators...they DO need to be run for around 168 hours (aged) before they become fairly stable. "Curious" wrote in message om... Is it possible to use a billion 1Hz clocks to make a clock rate of 1 GHz? How would this be done? Thanks |
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You'd basically be time division multiplexing them (i.e., each would have
it's own time slot for it's pulse...it isn't practical, but theoretically possible). You'd also have to shorten the pulses appropriately. "half_pint" wrote in message ... No. Not really possible, you could make lower frequencies eg 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 Hz but not higher ones (well you might manage 2 and 4 Hz possibly) "Curious" wrote in message om... Is it possible to use a billion 1Hz clocks to make a clock rate of 1 GHz? How would this be done? Thanks |
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"George" wrote in message ... You'd basically be time division multiplexing them (i.e., each would have it's own time slot for it's pulse...it isn't practical, but theoretically possible). You'd also have to shorten the pulses appropriately. Yes and TMD would required a 1GHz clock, so your using a 1GHz clock and billion 1Hz clocks to produce a 1GGz clock. Obviously the billion 1 hz clocks are surplus to requirements. "half_pint" wrote in message ... No. Not really possible, you could make lower frequencies eg 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 Hz but not higher ones (well you might manage 2 and 4 Hz possibly) "Curious" wrote in message om... Is it possible to use a billion 1Hz clocks to make a clock rate of 1 GHz? How would this be done? Thanks |
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"half_pint" wrote in message ...
I think the trouble is you need a 1 ghz clock to syncronise the waves. So yes, you can make a 1 ghz clock, *if* you already have one. Huh? I can make one if I already have one? |
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"half_pint" wrote in message ... "George" wrote in message ... You'd basically be time division multiplexing them (i.e., each would have it's own time slot for it's pulse...it isn't practical, but theoretically possible). You'd also have to shorten the pulses appropriately. Yes and TMD would required a 1GHz clock, so your using a 1GHz clock and billion 1Hz clocks to produce a 1GGz clock. Obviously the billion 1 hz clocks are surplus to requirements. You ***just*** VBG need the 1GHz clock to initially get the phase offsets right. After that, you've got the billion 1Hz clocks running asynchronously and everything will be fine (because we all know how stable crystal oscillators are). C'mon now, we gotta help this guy clear out the 1 billion oscillators in his closet! "half_pint" wrote in message ... No. Not really possible, you could make lower frequencies eg 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 Hz but not higher ones (well you might manage 2 and 4 Hz possibly) "Curious" wrote in message om... Is it possible to use a billion 1Hz clocks to make a clock rate of 1 GHz? How would this be done? Thanks |
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