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PS/2 mice pause in 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 (safe mode too)and 7 PE liveCD...



 
 
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Old April 26th 11, 02:50 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.built,alt.comp.hardware.homebuild,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default PS/2 mice pause in 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 (safe mode too)and 7 PE liveCD...

I forgot to mention eMachine mouse was a ball type and the Logitech was
an optical laser type. They didn't make any differencs.



On 4/26/2011 6:34 AM PT, Ant typed:

Hello!

Does anyone know why my PS/2 mice, with its USB adapter (Logitech and
eMachine), like to pause on my new EVGA X58 SLI (132-BL-E758; BIOS date
5/11/2010; v6.00 PG; release number IX58SZ64) motherboard in 32-bit
Windows? I never had this problem with my other older motherboards with
pure PS/2 connections, but this new motherboard only has a PS/2 keyboard
port so I was forced to use a USB adapter for the mouse. The reason for
a PS/2 mouse is because I use a KVM to share my monitor, mouse, and
keyboard. I already eliminated the cables and KVM switch box to see
where the pauses are coming from. They're not from KVM and its cables.

My PS/2 mice likes to pause in 32-bit Windows. Rear ports seems to pause
way more than the front. The pauses can cause randomly and every few
seconds. I also tried different adapter cables beside different PS/2
mice. I can reproduce this in both 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 (safe mode
too) and 7 PE liveCD.

I was not able to reproduce it with a KNOPPIX v6.4.4 liveCD, but I did
notice these USB errors in dmesg command:
a_codec_realtek cx24123 cx24113 i7core_edac snd_hda_intel r8169 mii
s5h1420 edac_core snd_hda_codec i2c_i801
[ 14.355804] Pid: 2102, comm: modprobe Tainted: G W 2.6.37 #13
[ 14.355807] Call Trace:
[ 14.355812] [c0133505] warn_slowpath_common+0x77/0x8c
[ 14.355816] [c01fd12c] ? __xlate_proc_name+0x99/0xa0
[ 14.355820] [c01fd12c] ? __xlate_proc_name+0x99/0xa0
[ 14.355824] [c0133596] warn_slowpath_fmt+0x2e/0x30
[ 14.355827] [c01fd12c] __xlate_proc_name+0x99/0xa0
[ 14.355831] [c01fdb67] __proc_create+0x46/0xea
[ 14.355835] [c01fdd8b] proc_mkdir_mode+0x23/0x47
[ 14.355839] [c01fddbe] proc_mkdir+0xf/0x11
[ 14.355844] [c01751e8] register_handler_proc+0xce/0xde
[ 14.355849] [c01734af] __setup_irq+0x216/0x277
[ 14.355854] [c02f1fc2] ? __pci_request_region+0xb0/0xf8
[ 14.355858] [c017390d] request_threaded_irq+0x109/0x12e
[ 14.355865] [f839a109] ? flexcop_pci_isr+0x0/0xf0 [b2c2_flexcop_pci]
[ 14.355871] [f839a363] flexcop_pci_probe+0x16a/0x281 [b2c2_flexcop_pci]
[ 14.355875] [c02f329f] local_pci_probe+0x3e/0x81
[ 14.355879] [c02f3d63] pci_device_probe+0x43/0x66
[ 14.355884] [c0380d7b] driver_probe_device+0x97/0x128
[ 14.355887] [c0380e4f] __driver_attach+0x43/0x5f
[ 14.355892] [c0380532] bus_for_each_dev+0x3d/0x67
[ 14.355896] [c0380c13] driver_attach+0x19/0x1b
[ 14.355899] [c0380e0c] ? __driver_attach+0x0/0x5f
[ 14.355902] [c03808fb] bus_add_driver+0x9e/0x1e3
[ 14.355906] [c03810a2] driver_register+0x84/0xeb
[ 14.355910] [c02f3f45] __pci_register_driver+0x38/0x95
[ 14.355916] [f839d017] flexcop_pci_module_init+0x17/0x19
[b2c2_flexcop_pci]
[ 14.355920] [c0101174] do_one_initcall+0x87/0x13d
[ 14.355925] [f839d000] ? flexcop_pci_module_init+0x0/0x19
[b2c2_flexcop_pci]
[ 14.355930] [c015df40] sys_init_module+0xcd4/0xe74
[ 14.355936] [c057df05] syscall_call+0x7/0xb
[ 14.355940] ---[ end trace 5a0003f5d005a066 ]---
[ 14.366953] DVB: registering new adapter (FlexCop Digital TV device)
[ 14.368564] b2c2-flexcop: MAC address = 00:d0:d7:30:19:c1
[ 14.369171] CX24123: cx24123_i2c_readreg: reg=0x0 (error=-121)
[ 14.369173] CX24123: wrong demod revision: 87
[ 14.570685] nxt200x: nxt200x_readbytes: i2c read error (addr 0x0a, err
== -121)
[ 14.570689] Unknown/Unsupported NXT chip: 00 00 00 00 00
[ 14.571177] lgdt330x: i2c_read_demod_bytes: addr 0x59 select 0x02 error
(ret == -121)
[ 14.571514] bcm3510: Revision: 0x1, Layer: 0xb.
[ 14.583081] b2c2-flexcop: found 'Broadcom BCM3510 VSB/QAM frontend' .
[ 14.583085] DVB: registering adapter 1 frontend 0 (Broadcom BCM3510
VSB/QAM frontend)...
[ 14.583191] b2c2-flexcop: initialization of 'Air2PC/AirStar 2 ATSC 1st
generation' at the 'PCI' bus controlled by a 'FlexCopIIb' complete
[ 14.612931] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 15.874030] Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 4 ports, IRQ sharing disabled
[ 15.894649] serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[ 16.272853] 00:07: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
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[ 33.183186] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[ 33.412969] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled.
[ 33.413014] radeon 0000:02:00.0: PCI INT A - GSI 16 (level, low) -
IRQ 16
[ 33.413018] radeon 0000:02:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
[ 33.413881] [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (RV770 0x1002:0x9440).
[ 33.414052] [drm] register mmio base: 0xF3BE0000
[ 33.414055] [drm] register mmio size: 65536
[ 33.414275] ATOM BIOS: WEKIVA
[ 33.414290] radeon 0000:02:00.0: VRAM: 512M 0x0000000000000000 -
0x000000001FFFFFFF (512M used)
[ 33.414292] radeon 0000:02:00.0: GTT: 512M 0x0000000020000000 -
0x000000003FFFFFFF
[ 33.417099] [drm] Detected VRAM RAM=512M, BAR=256M
[ 33.417101] [drm] RAM width 256bits DDR
[ 33.417163] [TTM] Zone kernel: Available graphics memory: 440070 kiB.
[ 33.417166] [TTM] Zone highmem: Available graphics memory: 1291818 kiB.
[ 33.417168] [TTM] Initializing pool allocator.
[ 33.417185] [drm] radeon: 512M of VRAM memory ready
[ 33.417187] [drm] radeon: 512M of GTT memory ready.
[ 33.417232] radeon 0000:02:00.0: irq 44 for MSI/MSI-X
[ 33.417237] radeon 0000:02:00.0: radeon: using MSI.
[ 33.417263] [drm] radeon: irq initialized.
[ 33.417265] [drm] GART: num cpu pages 131072, num gpu pages 131072
[ 33.417525] [drm] Loading RV770 Microcode
[ 33.564928] radeon 0000:02:00.0: WB enabled
[ 33.611699] [drm] ring test succeeded in 1 usecs
[ 33.611807] [drm] radeon: ib pool ready.
[ 33.611902] [drm] ib test succeeded in 0 usecs
[ 33.611904] [drm] Enabling audio support
[ 33.611909] failed to evaluate ATIF got AE_BAD_PARAMETER
[ 33.612360] [drm] Radeon Display Connectors
[ 33.612362] [drm] Connector 0:
[ 33.612363] [drm] DVI-I
[ 33.612364] [drm] HPD2
[ 33.612365] [drm] DDC: 0x7e60 0x7e60 0x7e64 0x7e64 0x7e68 0x7e68 0x7e6c
0x7e6c
[ 33.612366] [drm] Encoders:
[ 33.612368] [drm] DFP1: INTERNAL_UNIPHY
[ 33.612369] [drm] CRT2: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC2
[ 33.612370] [drm] Connector 1:
[ 33.612371] [drm] DIN
[ 33.612372] [drm] Encoders:
[ 33.612373] [drm] TV1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC2
[ 33.612374] [drm] Connector 2:
[ 33.612374] [drm] DVI-I
[ 33.612375] [drm] HPD1
[ 33.612377] [drm] DDC: 0x7e20 0x7e20 0x7e24 0x7e24 0x7e28 0x7e28 0x7e2c
0x7e2c
[ 33.612378] [drm] Encoders:
[ 33.612379] [drm] CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1
[ 33.612380] [drm] DFP2: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_LVTMA
[ 33.718954] [drm] Internal thermal controller with fan control
[ 33.719028] [drm] radeon: power management initialized
[ 33.852563] [drm] fb mappable at 0xD0142000
[ 33.852565] [drm] vram apper at 0xD0000000
[ 33.852566] [drm] size 5242880
[ 33.852567] [drm] fb depth is 24
[ 33.852568] [drm] pitch is 5120
[ 34.278659] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 160x64
[ 34.285293] fb0: radeondrmfb frame buffer device
[ 34.285294] drm: registered panic notifier
[ 34.285297] [drm] Initialized radeon 2.7.0 20080528 for 0000:02:00.0 on
minor 0
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[ 95.632505] NET: Registered protocol family 10
[ 95.633185] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
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[ 108.446748] lp: driver loaded but no devices found
[ 108.470690] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver
[ 108.498813] r8169 0000:07:00.0: eth0: link down
[ 108.498899] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[ 108.534227] r8169 0000:08:00.0: eth1: link up
[ 108.534238] r8169 0000:08:00.0: eth1: link up
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[ 119.036273] eth1: no IPv6 routers present
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Does Windows not reset USB device or something? I also tried Logitech
Mouseware, but that didn't seem to help either.

Thank you in advance.

FYI on my PC specifications: Intel i7 950 CPU, three 2 GB of Kingston
HyperX T1 Series 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory
Model KHX2000C9AD3T1K3/6GX DDR3 RAM (6 GB total; 2.5 GB shown; will
install a 64-bit OS later on to use it all) in 32-bit old, updated
Windows XP Pro. SP3 (Internet Explorer [rarely used] v6.0 SP3 and
DirectX 9.0c [June 2010]), EVGA X58 SLI (132-BL-E758; BIOS date
5/11/2010; v6.00 PG; release number IX58SZ64) motherboard, MSI
R4870-T2D512 OC Radeon HD 4870 512 MB (S-video+composite cables and
adapter connected to Toshiba W-627 VCR to a January 1996 20" Sharp CRT
TV), an used mid-tower Antec P180 ATX case, five 120 mm case fans, a
side dual cooler fan to cool PCI cards, two onboard RealTek Gigabit
Ethernets and onboard RealTek sound, Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650 watts
ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
power supply, two Broadband Technologies Air2PC-ATSC-PCI HDTV tuner
cards (DVB; revision 2; connected to a DB2 bowtie antenna), LG HL-DT-ST
DVDRAM GH24NS50 burner drive, Sony NEC Optiarc DVD-RW AD-7220S SATA
burner drive, two internal 7200 RPM Seagate SATA hard disk drives (HDDs)
[ST3320620AS 320 GB and ST3500320AS 500 GB], and Logitech Z-2300
speakers (2.1 setup and analog).

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Old April 26th 11, 05:28 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.built,alt.comp.hardware.homebuild,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Nobody > (Revisited)
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Default PS/2 mice pause in 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 (safe mode too)and 7 PE liveCD...

Ant, I think you have a hex that leads to strange fails.

have you tried using that Logitech mouse as USB? Does it do the same?

(and I'm a Logi-freak, Trackman Wheel here, logi setpoint drivers on
Win7 32)

I think Logitech builds their micey-type stuff as both PS/2 and USB
from the ground up. All the green adapter does is just a connector
change as far as I can tell. I've carved one open and could not find
*any* active componentry inside.

In reality, i don't think the USB vs PS/2 has anything to do with it.

Methinks we share the same concept on using ports, if I can use the
keyboard and/or mouse as PS/2 (depending on mobo), I will.
1) avoids the uncommon but real 'can't do BIOS w/USB KB' issue
2) saves a hi-power USB mobo port for other uses.

From my own experience on mouse-halts and such, most have been
malfunctioning apps. Mozilla FF and TB do it often, but not to the
level that *any* version of IE does.

I had it happen today with T-Bird 3.1.9.
The pointer just totally disappeared. I could somewhat find it by waving
around blindly until something dimmed or changed.
Killing and restarting T-bird fixed it.

Another 'methinks'... I've been around the Ant long enough to know he's
got possibly more than normal paranoia on security. That often leads to
many strange security apps running in the background. (Ben Dere,Dun
Dat). This ends up doing the same instability as loading up a bunch of
TSRs in DOS/Win3X.

I'd try going thru the 'selective startup' troubleshoot game on this.


On 4/26/2011 6:50 AM, Ant wrote:
I forgot to mention eMachine mouse was a ball type and the Logitech was
an optical laser type. They didn't make any differencs.



On 4/26/2011 6:34 AM PT, Ant typed:

Hello!

Does anyone know why my PS/2 mice, with its USB adapter (Logitech and
eMachine), like to pause on my new EVGA X58 SLI (132-BL-E758; BIOS date
5/11/2010; v6.00 PG; release number IX58SZ64) motherboard in 32-bit
Windows? I never had this problem with my other older motherboards with
pure PS/2 connections, but this new motherboard only has a PS/2 keyboard
port so I was forced to use a USB adapter for the mouse. The reason for
a PS/2 mouse is because I use a KVM to share my monitor, mouse, and
keyboard. I already eliminated the cables and KVM switch box to see
where the pauses are coming from. They're not from KVM and its cables.

My PS/2 mice likes to pause in 32-bit Windows. Rear ports seems to pause
way more than the front. The pauses can cause randomly and every few
seconds. I also tried different adapter cables beside different PS/2
mice. I can reproduce this in both 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 (safe mode
too) and 7 PE liveCD.

I was not able to reproduce it with a KNOPPIX v6.4.4 liveCD, but I did
notice these USB errors in dmesg command:
a_codec_realtek cx24123 cx24113 i7core_edac snd_hda_intel r8169 mii
s5h1420 edac_core snd_hda_codec i2c_i801
[ 14.355804] Pid: 2102, comm: modprobe Tainted: G W 2.6.37 #13
[ 14.355807] Call Trace:
[ 14.355812] [c0133505] warn_slowpath_common+0x77/0x8c
[ 14.355816] [c01fd12c] ? __xlate_proc_name+0x99/0xa0
[ 14.355820] [c01fd12c] ? __xlate_proc_name+0x99/0xa0
[ 14.355824] [c0133596] warn_slowpath_fmt+0x2e/0x30
[ 14.355827] [c01fd12c] __xlate_proc_name+0x99/0xa0
[ 14.355831] [c01fdb67] __proc_create+0x46/0xea
[ 14.355835] [c01fdd8b] proc_mkdir_mode+0x23/0x47
[ 14.355839] [c01fddbe] proc_mkdir+0xf/0x11
[ 14.355844] [c01751e8] register_handler_proc+0xce/0xde
[ 14.355849] [c01734af] __setup_irq+0x216/0x277
[ 14.355854] [c02f1fc2] ? __pci_request_region+0xb0/0xf8
[ 14.355858] [c017390d] request_threaded_irq+0x109/0x12e
[ 14.355865] [f839a109] ? flexcop_pci_isr+0x0/0xf0 [b2c2_flexcop_pci]
[ 14.355871] [f839a363] flexcop_pci_probe+0x16a/0x281
[b2c2_flexcop_pci]
[ 14.355875] [c02f329f] local_pci_probe+0x3e/0x81
[ 14.355879] [c02f3d63] pci_device_probe+0x43/0x66
[ 14.355884] [c0380d7b] driver_probe_device+0x97/0x128
[ 14.355887] [c0380e4f] __driver_attach+0x43/0x5f
[ 14.355892] [c0380532] bus_for_each_dev+0x3d/0x67
[ 14.355896] [c0380c13] driver_attach+0x19/0x1b
[ 14.355899] [c0380e0c] ? __driver_attach+0x0/0x5f
[ 14.355902] [c03808fb] bus_add_driver+0x9e/0x1e3
[ 14.355906] [c03810a2] driver_register+0x84/0xeb
[ 14.355910] [c02f3f45] __pci_register_driver+0x38/0x95
[ 14.355916] [f839d017] flexcop_pci_module_init+0x17/0x19
[b2c2_flexcop_pci]
[ 14.355920] [c0101174] do_one_initcall+0x87/0x13d
[ 14.355925] [f839d000] ? flexcop_pci_module_init+0x0/0x19
[b2c2_flexcop_pci]
[ 14.355930] [c015df40] sys_init_module+0xcd4/0xe74
[ 14.355936] [c057df05] syscall_call+0x7/0xb
[ 14.355940] ---[ end trace 5a0003f5d005a066 ]---
[ 14.366953] DVB: registering new adapter (FlexCop Digital TV device)
[ 14.368564] b2c2-flexcop: MAC address = 00:d0:d7:30:19:c1
[ 14.369171] CX24123: cx24123_i2c_readreg: reg=0x0 (error=-121)
[ 14.369173] CX24123: wrong demod revision: 87
[ 14.570685] nxt200x: nxt200x_readbytes: i2c read error (addr 0x0a, err
== -121)
[ 14.570689] Unknown/Unsupported NXT chip: 00 00 00 00 00
[ 14.571177] lgdt330x: i2c_read_demod_bytes: addr 0x59 select 0x02 error
(ret == -121)
[ 14.571514] bcm3510: Revision: 0x1, Layer: 0xb.
[ 14.583081] b2c2-flexcop: found 'Broadcom BCM3510 VSB/QAM frontend' .
[ 14.583085] DVB: registering adapter 1 frontend 0 (Broadcom BCM3510
VSB/QAM frontend)...
[ 14.583191] b2c2-flexcop: initialization of 'Air2PC/AirStar 2 ATSC 1st
generation' at the 'PCI' bus controlled by a 'FlexCopIIb' complete
[ 14.612931] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 15.874030] Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 4 ports, IRQ sharing disabled
[ 15.894649] serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[ 16.272853] 00:07: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
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address 2
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address 2
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[ 33.183186] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[ 33.412969] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled.
[ 33.413014] radeon 0000:02:00.0: PCI INT A - GSI 16 (level, low) -
IRQ 16
[ 33.413018] radeon 0000:02:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
[ 33.413881] [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (RV770 0x1002:0x9440).
[ 33.414052] [drm] register mmio base: 0xF3BE0000
[ 33.414055] [drm] register mmio size: 65536
[ 33.414275] ATOM BIOS: WEKIVA
[ 33.414290] radeon 0000:02:00.0: VRAM: 512M 0x0000000000000000 -
0x000000001FFFFFFF (512M used)
[ 33.414292] radeon 0000:02:00.0: GTT: 512M 0x0000000020000000 -
0x000000003FFFFFFF
[ 33.417099] [drm] Detected VRAM RAM=512M, BAR=256M
[ 33.417101] [drm] RAM width 256bits DDR
[ 33.417163] [TTM] Zone kernel: Available graphics memory: 440070 kiB.
[ 33.417166] [TTM] Zone highmem: Available graphics memory: 1291818 kiB.
[ 33.417168] [TTM] Initializing pool allocator.
[ 33.417185] [drm] radeon: 512M of VRAM memory ready
[ 33.417187] [drm] radeon: 512M of GTT memory ready.
[ 33.417232] radeon 0000:02:00.0: irq 44 for MSI/MSI-X
[ 33.417237] radeon 0000:02:00.0: radeon: using MSI.
[ 33.417263] [drm] radeon: irq initialized.
[ 33.417265] [drm] GART: num cpu pages 131072, num gpu pages 131072
[ 33.417525] [drm] Loading RV770 Microcode
[ 33.564928] radeon 0000:02:00.0: WB enabled
[ 33.611699] [drm] ring test succeeded in 1 usecs
[ 33.611807] [drm] radeon: ib pool ready.
[ 33.611902] [drm] ib test succeeded in 0 usecs
[ 33.611904] [drm] Enabling audio support
[ 33.611909] failed to evaluate ATIF got AE_BAD_PARAMETER
[ 33.612360] [drm] Radeon Display Connectors
[ 33.612362] [drm] Connector 0:
[ 33.612363] [drm] DVI-I
[ 33.612364] [drm] HPD2
[ 33.612365] [drm] DDC: 0x7e60 0x7e60 0x7e64 0x7e64 0x7e68 0x7e68 0x7e6c
0x7e6c
[ 33.612366] [drm] Encoders:
[ 33.612368] [drm] DFP1: INTERNAL_UNIPHY
[ 33.612369] [drm] CRT2: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC2
[ 33.612370] [drm] Connector 1:
[ 33.612371] [drm] DIN
[ 33.612372] [drm] Encoders:
[ 33.612373] [drm] TV1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC2
[ 33.612374] [drm] Connector 2:
[ 33.612374] [drm] DVI-I
[ 33.612375] [drm] HPD1
[ 33.612377] [drm] DDC: 0x7e20 0x7e20 0x7e24 0x7e24 0x7e28 0x7e28 0x7e2c
0x7e2c
[ 33.612378] [drm] Encoders:
[ 33.612379] [drm] CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1
[ 33.612380] [drm] DFP2: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_LVTMA
[ 33.718954] [drm] Internal thermal controller with fan control
[ 33.719028] [drm] radeon: power management initialized
[ 33.852563] [drm] fb mappable at 0xD0142000
[ 33.852565] [drm] vram apper at 0xD0000000
[ 33.852566] [drm] size 5242880
[ 33.852567] [drm] fb depth is 24
[ 33.852568] [drm] pitch is 5120
[ 34.278659] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 160x64
[ 34.285293] fb0: radeondrmfb frame buffer device
[ 34.285294] drm: registered panic notifier
[ 34.285297] [drm] Initialized radeon 2.7.0 20080528 for 0000:02:00.0 on
minor 0
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address 2
[ 42.180338] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
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[ 95.632505] NET: Registered protocol family 10
[ 95.633185] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
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[ 108.446748] lp: driver loaded but no devices found
[ 108.470690] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver
[ 108.498813] r8169 0000:07:00.0: eth0: link down
[ 108.498899] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[ 108.534227] r8169 0000:08:00.0: eth1: link up
[ 108.534238] r8169 0000:08:00.0: eth1: link up
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[ 119.036273] eth1: no IPv6 routers present
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Does Windows not reset USB device or something? I also tried Logitech
Mouseware, but that didn't seem to help either.

Thank you in advance.

FYI on my PC specifications: Intel i7 950 CPU, three 2 GB of Kingston
HyperX T1 Series 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory
Model KHX2000C9AD3T1K3/6GX DDR3 RAM (6 GB total; 2.5 GB shown; will
install a 64-bit OS later on to use it all) in 32-bit old, updated
Windows XP Pro. SP3 (Internet Explorer [rarely used] v6.0 SP3 and
DirectX 9.0c [June 2010]), EVGA X58 SLI (132-BL-E758; BIOS date
5/11/2010; v6.00 PG; release number IX58SZ64) motherboard, MSI
R4870-T2D512 OC Radeon HD 4870 512 MB (S-video+composite cables and
adapter connected to Toshiba W-627 VCR to a January 1996 20" Sharp CRT
TV), an used mid-tower Antec P180 ATX case, five 120 mm case fans, a
side dual cooler fan to cool PCI cards, two onboard RealTek Gigabit
Ethernets and onboard RealTek sound, Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650 watts
ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
power supply, two Broadband Technologies Air2PC-ATSC-PCI HDTV tuner
cards (DVB; revision 2; connected to a DB2 bowtie antenna), LG HL-DT-ST
DVDRAM GH24NS50 burner drive, Sony NEC Optiarc DVD-RW AD-7220S SATA
burner drive, two internal 7200 RPM Seagate SATA hard disk drives (HDDs)
[ST3320620AS 320 GB and ST3500320AS 500 GB], and Logitech Z-2300
speakers (2.1 setup and analog).



--
"**** this is it, all the pieces do fit.
We're like that crazy old man jumping
out of the alleyway with a baseball bat,
saying, "Remember me mother****er?"
Jim “Dandy” Mangrum
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Old April 26th 11, 08:09 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.built,alt.comp.hardware.homebuild,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default PS/2 mice pause in 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 (safe mode too) and 7 PE liveCD...

In alt.comp.hardware.homebuild "Nobody (Revisited)" wrote:

Ant, I think you have a hex that leads to strange fails.


It happens all the time. One of my friends teased me that ants
shouldn't be using computers. :P


have you tried using that Logitech mouse as USB? Does it do the same?


What do you mean as USB? It has a PS/2 connector. I use PS/2 mice and
keyboards because of KVMs to share with other PCs. I really don't want
to have to replace them with USB ones since they are costly.


(and I'm a Logi-freak, Trackman Wheel here, logi setpoint drivers on
Win7 32)

I think Logitech builds their micey-type stuff as both PS/2 and USB
from the ground up. All the green adapter does is just a connector
change as far as I can tell. I've carved one open and could not
find *any* active componentry inside.

In reality, i don't think the USB vs PS/2 has anything to do with it.

Methinks we share the same concept on using ports, if I can use the
keyboard and/or mouse as PS/2 (depending on mobo), I will.
1) avoids the uncommon but real 'can't do BIOS w/USB KB' issue
2) saves a hi-power USB mobo port for other uses.

From my own experience on mouse-halts and such, most have been
malfunctioning apps. Mozilla FF and TB do it often, but not to the
level that *any* version of IE does.


It happens everywhere in Windows even in safe mode, login screens, etc.


I had it happen today with T-Bird 3.1.9.
The pointer just totally disappeared. I could somewhat find it by
waving around blindly until something dimmed or changed.
Killing and restarting T-bird fixed it.

Another 'methinks'... I've been around the Ant long enough to know
he's got possibly more than normal paranoia on security. That often
leads to many strange security apps running in the background. (Ben
Dere,Dun Dat). This ends up doing the same instability as loading up
a bunch of TSRs in DOS/Win3X.

I'd try going thru the 'selective startup' troubleshoot game on this.


Yeah, that is what I am doing. No problems in KNOPPIX v6.4.4's liveCD
(Linux/Debian)!


On 4/26/2011 6:50 AM, Ant wrote:
I forgot to mention eMachine mouse was a ball type and the Logitech was
an optical laser type. They didn't make any differencs.


On 4/26/2011 6:34 AM PT, Ant typed:

Hello!

Does anyone know why my PS/2 mice, with its USB adapter (Logitech and
eMachine), like to pause on my new EVGA X58 SLI (132-BL-E758; BIOS date
5/11/2010; v6.00 PG; release number IX58SZ64) motherboard in 32-bit
Windows? I never had this problem with my other older motherboards with
pure PS/2 connections, but this new motherboard only has a PS/2 keyboard
port so I was forced to use a USB adapter for the mouse. The reason for
a PS/2 mouse is because I use a KVM to share my monitor, mouse, and
keyboard. I already eliminated the cables and KVM switch box to see
where the pauses are coming from. They're not from KVM and its cables.

My PS/2 mice likes to pause in 32-bit Windows. Rear ports seems to pause
way more than the front. The pauses can cause randomly and every few
seconds. I also tried different adapter cables beside different PS/2
mice. I can reproduce this in both 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 (safe mode
too) and 7 PE liveCD.

I was not able to reproduce it with a KNOPPIX v6.4.4 liveCD, but I did
notice these USB errors in dmesg command:
a_codec_realtek cx24123 cx24113 i7core_edac snd_hda_intel r8169 mii
s5h1420 edac_core snd_hda_codec i2c_i801
[ 14.355804] Pid: 2102, comm: modprobe Tainted: G W 2.6.37 #13
[ 14.355807] Call Trace:
[ 14.355812] [c0133505] warn_slowpath_common+0x77/0x8c
[ 14.355816] [c01fd12c] ? __xlate_proc_name+0x99/0xa0
[ 14.355820] [c01fd12c] ? __xlate_proc_name+0x99/0xa0
[ 14.355824] [c0133596] warn_slowpath_fmt+0x2e/0x30
[ 14.355827] [c01fd12c] __xlate_proc_name+0x99/0xa0
[ 14.355831] [c01fdb67] __proc_create+0x46/0xea
[ 14.355835] [c01fdd8b] proc_mkdir_mode+0x23/0x47
[ 14.355839] [c01fddbe] proc_mkdir+0xf/0x11
[ 14.355844] [c01751e8] register_handler_proc+0xce/0xde
[ 14.355849] [c01734af] __setup_irq+0x216/0x277
[ 14.355854] [c02f1fc2] ? __pci_request_region+0xb0/0xf8
[ 14.355858] [c017390d] request_threaded_irq+0x109/0x12e
[ 14.355865] [f839a109] ? flexcop_pci_isr+0x0/0xf0 [b2c2_flexcop_pci]
[ 14.355871] [f839a363] flexcop_pci_probe+0x16a/0x281
[b2c2_flexcop_pci]
[ 14.355875] [c02f329f] local_pci_probe+0x3e/0x81
[ 14.355879] [c02f3d63] pci_device_probe+0x43/0x66
[ 14.355884] [c0380d7b] driver_probe_device+0x97/0x128
[ 14.355887] [c0380e4f] __driver_attach+0x43/0x5f
[ 14.355892] [c0380532] bus_for_each_dev+0x3d/0x67
[ 14.355896] [c0380c13] driver_attach+0x19/0x1b
[ 14.355899] [c0380e0c] ? __driver_attach+0x0/0x5f
[ 14.355902] [c03808fb] bus_add_driver+0x9e/0x1e3
[ 14.355906] [c03810a2] driver_register+0x84/0xeb
[ 14.355910] [c02f3f45] __pci_register_driver+0x38/0x95
[ 14.355916] [f839d017] flexcop_pci_module_init+0x17/0x19
[b2c2_flexcop_pci]
[ 14.355920] [c0101174] do_one_initcall+0x87/0x13d
[ 14.355925] [f839d000] ? flexcop_pci_module_init+0x0/0x19
[b2c2_flexcop_pci]
[ 14.355930] [c015df40] sys_init_module+0xcd4/0xe74
[ 14.355936] [c057df05] syscall_call+0x7/0xb
[ 14.355940] ---[ end trace 5a0003f5d005a066 ]---
[ 14.366953] DVB: registering new adapter (FlexCop Digital TV device)
[ 14.368564] b2c2-flexcop: MAC address = 00:d0:d7:30:19:c1
[ 14.369171] CX24123: cx24123_i2c_readreg: reg=0x0 (error=-121)
[ 14.369173] CX24123: wrong demod revision: 87
[ 14.570685] nxt200x: nxt200x_readbytes: i2c read error (addr 0x0a, err
== -121)
[ 14.570689] Unknown/Unsupported NXT chip: 00 00 00 00 00
[ 14.571177] lgdt330x: i2c_read_demod_bytes: addr 0x59 select 0x02 error
(ret == -121)
[ 14.571514] bcm3510: Revision: 0x1, Layer: 0xb.
[ 14.583081] b2c2-flexcop: found 'Broadcom BCM3510 VSB/QAM frontend' .
[ 14.583085] DVB: registering adapter 1 frontend 0 (Broadcom BCM3510
VSB/QAM frontend)...
[ 14.583191] b2c2-flexcop: initialization of 'Air2PC/AirStar 2 ATSC 1st
generation' at the 'PCI' bus controlled by a 'FlexCopIIb' complete
[ 14.612931] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 15.874030] Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 4 ports, IRQ sharing disabled
[ 15.894649] serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[ 16.272853] 00:07: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[ 20.818513] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 22.974664] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 26.511687] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 28.707741] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 31.679122] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 33.183186] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[ 33.412969] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled.
[ 33.413014] radeon 0000:02:00.0: PCI INT A - GSI 16 (level, low) -
IRQ 16
[ 33.413018] radeon 0000:02:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
[ 33.413881] [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (RV770 0x1002:0x9440).
[ 33.414052] [drm] register mmio base: 0xF3BE0000
[ 33.414055] [drm] register mmio size: 65536
[ 33.414275] ATOM BIOS: WEKIVA
[ 33.414290] radeon 0000:02:00.0: VRAM: 512M 0x0000000000000000 -
0x000000001FFFFFFF (512M used)
[ 33.414292] radeon 0000:02:00.0: GTT: 512M 0x0000000020000000 -
0x000000003FFFFFFF
[ 33.417099] [drm] Detected VRAM RAM=512M, BAR=256M
[ 33.417101] [drm] RAM width 256bits DDR
[ 33.417163] [TTM] Zone kernel: Available graphics memory: 440070 kiB.
[ 33.417166] [TTM] Zone highmem: Available graphics memory: 1291818 kiB.
[ 33.417168] [TTM] Initializing pool allocator.
[ 33.417185] [drm] radeon: 512M of VRAM memory ready
[ 33.417187] [drm] radeon: 512M of GTT memory ready.
[ 33.417232] radeon 0000:02:00.0: irq 44 for MSI/MSI-X
[ 33.417237] radeon 0000:02:00.0: radeon: using MSI.
[ 33.417263] [drm] radeon: irq initialized.
[ 33.417265] [drm] GART: num cpu pages 131072, num gpu pages 131072
[ 33.417525] [drm] Loading RV770 Microcode
[ 33.564928] radeon 0000:02:00.0: WB enabled
[ 33.611699] [drm] ring test succeeded in 1 usecs
[ 33.611807] [drm] radeon: ib pool ready.
[ 33.611902] [drm] ib test succeeded in 0 usecs
[ 33.611904] [drm] Enabling audio support
[ 33.611909] failed to evaluate ATIF got AE_BAD_PARAMETER
[ 33.612360] [drm] Radeon Display Connectors
[ 33.612362] [drm] Connector 0:
[ 33.612363] [drm] DVI-I
[ 33.612364] [drm] HPD2
[ 33.612365] [drm] DDC: 0x7e60 0x7e60 0x7e64 0x7e64 0x7e68 0x7e68 0x7e6c
0x7e6c
[ 33.612366] [drm] Encoders:
[ 33.612368] [drm] DFP1: INTERNAL_UNIPHY
[ 33.612369] [drm] CRT2: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC2
[ 33.612370] [drm] Connector 1:
[ 33.612371] [drm] DIN
[ 33.612372] [drm] Encoders:
[ 33.612373] [drm] TV1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC2
[ 33.612374] [drm] Connector 2:
[ 33.612374] [drm] DVI-I
[ 33.612375] [drm] HPD1
[ 33.612377] [drm] DDC: 0x7e20 0x7e20 0x7e24 0x7e24 0x7e28 0x7e28 0x7e2c
0x7e2c
[ 33.612378] [drm] Encoders:
[ 33.612379] [drm] CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1
[ 33.612380] [drm] DFP2: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_LVTMA
[ 33.718954] [drm] Internal thermal controller with fan control
[ 33.719028] [drm] radeon: power management initialized
[ 33.852563] [drm] fb mappable at 0xD0142000
[ 33.852565] [drm] vram apper at 0xD0000000
[ 33.852566] [drm] size 5242880
[ 33.852567] [drm] fb depth is 24
[ 33.852568] [drm] pitch is 5120
[ 34.278659] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 160x64
[ 34.285293] fb0: radeondrmfb frame buffer device
[ 34.285294] drm: registered panic notifier
[ 34.285297] [drm] Initialized radeon 2.7.0 20080528 for 0000:02:00.0 on
minor 0
[ 40.114035] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 42.180338] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 46.612427] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 49.680232] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 54.654704] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 62.480716] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 64.463835] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 67.049219] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 69.844227] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 79.277358] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 89.652149] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 94.872817] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 95.632505] NET: Registered protocol family 10
[ 95.633185] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
[ 97.062232] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 103.108100] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 108.446748] lp: driver loaded but no devices found
[ 108.470690] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver
[ 108.498813] r8169 0000:07:00.0: eth0: link down
[ 108.498899] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[ 108.534227] r8169 0000:08:00.0: eth1: link up
[ 108.534238] r8169 0000:08:00.0: eth1: link up
[ 114.008620] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 116.387697] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 119.036273] eth1: no IPv6 routers present
[ 124.183759] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 130.093198] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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Does Windows not reset USB device or something? I also tried Logitech
Mouseware, but that didn't seem to help either.

Thank you in advance.

FYI on my PC specifications: Intel i7 950 CPU, three 2 GB of Kingston
HyperX T1 Series 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory
Model KHX2000C9AD3T1K3/6GX DDR3 RAM (6 GB total; 2.5 GB shown; will
install a 64-bit OS later on to use it all) in 32-bit old, updated
Windows XP Pro. SP3 (Internet Explorer [rarely used] v6.0 SP3 and
DirectX 9.0c [June 2010]), EVGA X58 SLI (132-BL-E758; BIOS date
5/11/2010; v6.00 PG; release number IX58SZ64) motherboard, MSI
R4870-T2D512 OC Radeon HD 4870 512 MB (S-video+composite cables and
adapter connected to Toshiba W-627 VCR to a January 1996 20" Sharp CRT
TV), an used mid-tower Antec P180 ATX case, five 120 mm case fans, a
side dual cooler fan to cool PCI cards, two onboard RealTek Gigabit
Ethernets and onboard RealTek sound, Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650 watts
ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
power supply, two Broadband Technologies Air2PC-ATSC-PCI HDTV tuner
cards (DVB; revision 2; connected to a DB2 bowtie antenna), LG HL-DT-ST
DVDRAM GH24NS50 burner drive, Sony NEC Optiarc DVD-RW AD-7220S SATA
burner drive, two internal 7200 RPM Seagate SATA hard disk drives (HDDs)
[ST3320620AS 320 GB and ST3500320AS 500 GB], and Logitech Z-2300
speakers (2.1 setup and analog).

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Old April 27th 11, 06:14 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.built,alt.comp.hardware.homebuild,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default PS/2 mice pause in 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 (safe mode too)and 7 PE liveCD...

Someone suggested me to try hooking both mouse and keyboard to the
PS/2+USB adapter splitter. It was working for about 30 minutes and then
both devices started pausing. When I type on my PS/2 keyboard and pauses
occur, it either doesn't register my keys or gets stuccccccccccccccck
like that.


On 4/26/2011 6:50 AM PT, Ant typed:

I forgot to mention eMachine mouse was a ball type and the Logitech was
an optical laser type. They didn't make any differencs.



On 4/26/2011 6:34 AM PT, Ant typed:

Hello!

Does anyone know why my PS/2 mice, with its USB adapter (Logitech and
eMachine), like to pause on my new EVGA X58 SLI (132-BL-E758; BIOS date
5/11/2010; v6.00 PG; release number IX58SZ64) motherboard in 32-bit
Windows? I never had this problem with my other older motherboards with
pure PS/2 connections, but this new motherboard only has a PS/2 keyboard
port so I was forced to use a USB adapter for the mouse. The reason for
a PS/2 mouse is because I use a KVM to share my monitor, mouse, and
keyboard. I already eliminated the cables and KVM switch box to see
where the pauses are coming from. They're not from KVM and its cables.

My PS/2 mice likes to pause in 32-bit Windows. Rear ports seems to pause
way more than the front. The pauses can cause randomly and every few
seconds. I also tried different adapter cables beside different PS/2
mice. I can reproduce this in both 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 (safe mode
too) and 7 PE liveCD.

I was not able to reproduce it with a KNOPPIX v6.4.4 liveCD, but I did
notice these USB errors in dmesg command:
a_codec_realtek cx24123 cx24113 i7core_edac snd_hda_intel r8169 mii
s5h1420 edac_core snd_hda_codec i2c_i801
[ 14.355804] Pid: 2102, comm: modprobe Tainted: G W 2.6.37 #13
[ 14.355807] Call Trace:
[ 14.355812] [c0133505] warn_slowpath_common+0x77/0x8c
[ 14.355816] [c01fd12c] ? __xlate_proc_name+0x99/0xa0
[ 14.355820] [c01fd12c] ? __xlate_proc_name+0x99/0xa0
[ 14.355824] [c0133596] warn_slowpath_fmt+0x2e/0x30
[ 14.355827] [c01fd12c] __xlate_proc_name+0x99/0xa0
[ 14.355831] [c01fdb67] __proc_create+0x46/0xea
[ 14.355835] [c01fdd8b] proc_mkdir_mode+0x23/0x47
[ 14.355839] [c01fddbe] proc_mkdir+0xf/0x11
[ 14.355844] [c01751e8] register_handler_proc+0xce/0xde
[ 14.355849] [c01734af] __setup_irq+0x216/0x277
[ 14.355854] [c02f1fc2] ? __pci_request_region+0xb0/0xf8
[ 14.355858] [c017390d] request_threaded_irq+0x109/0x12e
[ 14.355865] [f839a109] ? flexcop_pci_isr+0x0/0xf0 [b2c2_flexcop_pci]
[ 14.355871] [f839a363] flexcop_pci_probe+0x16a/0x281
[b2c2_flexcop_pci]
[ 14.355875] [c02f329f] local_pci_probe+0x3e/0x81
[ 14.355879] [c02f3d63] pci_device_probe+0x43/0x66
[ 14.355884] [c0380d7b] driver_probe_device+0x97/0x128
[ 14.355887] [c0380e4f] __driver_attach+0x43/0x5f
[ 14.355892] [c0380532] bus_for_each_dev+0x3d/0x67
[ 14.355896] [c0380c13] driver_attach+0x19/0x1b
[ 14.355899] [c0380e0c] ? __driver_attach+0x0/0x5f
[ 14.355902] [c03808fb] bus_add_driver+0x9e/0x1e3
[ 14.355906] [c03810a2] driver_register+0x84/0xeb
[ 14.355910] [c02f3f45] __pci_register_driver+0x38/0x95
[ 14.355916] [f839d017] flexcop_pci_module_init+0x17/0x19
[b2c2_flexcop_pci]
[ 14.355920] [c0101174] do_one_initcall+0x87/0x13d
[ 14.355925] [f839d000] ? flexcop_pci_module_init+0x0/0x19
[b2c2_flexcop_pci]
[ 14.355930] [c015df40] sys_init_module+0xcd4/0xe74
[ 14.355936] [c057df05] syscall_call+0x7/0xb
[ 14.355940] ---[ end trace 5a0003f5d005a066 ]---
[ 14.366953] DVB: registering new adapter (FlexCop Digital TV device)
[ 14.368564] b2c2-flexcop: MAC address = 00:d0:d7:30:19:c1
[ 14.369171] CX24123: cx24123_i2c_readreg: reg=0x0 (error=-121)
[ 14.369173] CX24123: wrong demod revision: 87
[ 14.570685] nxt200x: nxt200x_readbytes: i2c read error (addr 0x0a, err
== -121)
[ 14.570689] Unknown/Unsupported NXT chip: 00 00 00 00 00
[ 14.571177] lgdt330x: i2c_read_demod_bytes: addr 0x59 select 0x02 error
(ret == -121)
[ 14.571514] bcm3510: Revision: 0x1, Layer: 0xb.
[ 14.583081] b2c2-flexcop: found 'Broadcom BCM3510 VSB/QAM frontend' .
[ 14.583085] DVB: registering adapter 1 frontend 0 (Broadcom BCM3510
VSB/QAM frontend)...
[ 14.583191] b2c2-flexcop: initialization of 'Air2PC/AirStar 2 ATSC 1st
generation' at the 'PCI' bus controlled by a 'FlexCopIIb' complete
[ 14.612931] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 15.874030] Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 4 ports, IRQ sharing disabled
[ 15.894649] serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[ 16.272853] 00:07: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
[ 20.818513] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
[ 33.183186] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[ 33.412969] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled.
[ 33.413014] radeon 0000:02:00.0: PCI INT A - GSI 16 (level, low) -
IRQ 16
[ 33.413018] radeon 0000:02:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
[ 33.413881] [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (RV770 0x1002:0x9440).
[ 33.414052] [drm] register mmio base: 0xF3BE0000
[ 33.414055] [drm] register mmio size: 65536
[ 33.414275] ATOM BIOS: WEKIVA
[ 33.414290] radeon 0000:02:00.0: VRAM: 512M 0x0000000000000000 -
0x000000001FFFFFFF (512M used)
[ 33.414292] radeon 0000:02:00.0: GTT: 512M 0x0000000020000000 -
0x000000003FFFFFFF
[ 33.417099] [drm] Detected VRAM RAM=512M, BAR=256M
[ 33.417101] [drm] RAM width 256bits DDR
[ 33.417163] [TTM] Zone kernel: Available graphics memory: 440070 kiB.
[ 33.417166] [TTM] Zone highmem: Available graphics memory: 1291818 kiB.
[ 33.417168] [TTM] Initializing pool allocator.
[ 33.417185] [drm] radeon: 512M of VRAM memory ready
[ 33.417187] [drm] radeon: 512M of GTT memory ready.
[ 33.417232] radeon 0000:02:00.0: irq 44 for MSI/MSI-X
[ 33.417237] radeon 0000:02:00.0: radeon: using MSI.
[ 33.417263] [drm] radeon: irq initialized.
[ 33.417265] [drm] GART: num cpu pages 131072, num gpu pages 131072
[ 33.417525] [drm] Loading RV770 Microcode
[ 33.564928] radeon 0000:02:00.0: WB enabled
[ 33.611699] [drm] ring test succeeded in 1 usecs
[ 33.611807] [drm] radeon: ib pool ready.
[ 33.611902] [drm] ib test succeeded in 0 usecs
[ 33.611904] [drm] Enabling audio support
[ 33.611909] failed to evaluate ATIF got AE_BAD_PARAMETER
[ 33.612360] [drm] Radeon Display Connectors
[ 33.612362] [drm] Connector 0:
[ 33.612363] [drm] DVI-I
[ 33.612364] [drm] HPD2
[ 33.612365] [drm] DDC: 0x7e60 0x7e60 0x7e64 0x7e64 0x7e68 0x7e68 0x7e6c
0x7e6c
[ 33.612366] [drm] Encoders:
[ 33.612368] [drm] DFP1: INTERNAL_UNIPHY
[ 33.612369] [drm] CRT2: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC2
[ 33.612370] [drm] Connector 1:
[ 33.612371] [drm] DIN
[ 33.612372] [drm] Encoders:
[ 33.612373] [drm] TV1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC2
[ 33.612374] [drm] Connector 2:
[ 33.612374] [drm] DVI-I
[ 33.612375] [drm] HPD1
[ 33.612377] [drm] DDC: 0x7e20 0x7e20 0x7e24 0x7e24 0x7e28 0x7e28 0x7e2c
0x7e2c
[ 33.612378] [drm] Encoders:
[ 33.612379] [drm] CRT1: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_DAC1
[ 33.612380] [drm] DFP2: INTERNAL_KLDSCP_LVTMA
[ 33.718954] [drm] Internal thermal controller with fan control
[ 33.719028] [drm] radeon: power management initialized
[ 33.852563] [drm] fb mappable at 0xD0142000
[ 33.852565] [drm] vram apper at 0xD0000000
[ 33.852566] [drm] size 5242880
[ 33.852567] [drm] fb depth is 24
[ 33.852568] [drm] pitch is 5120
[ 34.278659] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 160x64
[ 34.285293] fb0: radeondrmfb frame buffer device
[ 34.285294] drm: registered panic notifier
[ 34.285297] [drm] Initialized radeon 2.7.0 20080528 for 0000:02:00.0 on
minor 0
[ 40.114035] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 42.180338] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
[ 62.480716] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
[ 89.652149] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 94.872817] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 95.632505] NET: Registered protocol family 10
[ 95.633185] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
[ 97.062232] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 103.108100] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 108.446748] lp: driver loaded but no devices found
[ 108.470690] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver
[ 108.498813] r8169 0000:07:00.0: eth0: link down
[ 108.498899] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[ 108.534227] r8169 0000:08:00.0: eth1: link up
[ 108.534238] r8169 0000:08:00.0: eth1: link up
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address 2
[ 116.387697] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 119.036273] eth1: no IPv6 routers present
[ 124.183759] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 130.093198] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
[ 894.956061] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
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address 2
[ 1094.046886] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2
[ 1105.762590] usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
address 2


Does Windows not reset USB device or something? I also tried Logitech
Mouseware, but that didn't seem to help either.

Thank you in advance.

FYI on my PC specifications: Intel i7 950 CPU, three 2 GB of Kingston
HyperX T1 Series 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory
Model KHX2000C9AD3T1K3/6GX DDR3 RAM (6 GB total; 2.5 GB shown; will
install a 64-bit OS later on to use it all) in 32-bit old, updated
Windows XP Pro. SP3 (Internet Explorer [rarely used] v6.0 SP3 and
DirectX 9.0c [June 2010]), EVGA X58 SLI (132-BL-E758; BIOS date
5/11/2010; v6.00 PG; release number IX58SZ64) motherboard, MSI
R4870-T2D512 OC Radeon HD 4870 512 MB (S-video+composite cables and
adapter connected to Toshiba W-627 VCR to a January 1996 20" Sharp CRT
TV), an used mid-tower Antec P180 ATX case, five 120 mm case fans, a
side dual cooler fan to cool PCI cards, two onboard RealTek Gigabit
Ethernets and onboard RealTek sound, Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650 watts
ATX12V/EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
power supply, two Broadband Technologies Air2PC-ATSC-PCI HDTV tuner
cards (DVB; revision 2; connected to a DB2 bowtie antenna), LG HL-DT-ST
DVDRAM GH24NS50 burner drive, Sony NEC Optiarc DVD-RW AD-7220S SATA
burner drive, two internal 7200 RPM Seagate SATA hard disk drives (HDDs)
[ST3320620AS 320 GB and ST3500320AS 500 GB], and Logitech Z-2300
speakers (2.1 setup and analog).

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  #5  
Old April 27th 11, 06:46 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Paul
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Posts: 13,364
Default PS/2 mice pause in 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 (safe mode too)and 7 PE liveCD...

Ant wrote:
Someone suggested me to try hooking both mouse and keyboard to the
PS/2+USB adapter splitter. It was working for about 30 minutes and then
both devices started pausing. When I type on my PS/2 keyboard and pauses
occur, it either doesn't register my keys or gets stuccccccccccccccck
like that.


Is this an adapter of some sort, on the KVM ?

Are you referring to the PS/2 plus dual USB stack on the back of the computer ?

Or do you own one of these ?

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/12-119-237-S02?$S640W$

*******

If it's the latter kind of device, this is the chip inside the "blob"
in the center of the cable.

http://www.chesen.com.tw/p3-products-CSC0101A.asp

"The CEC CSC0101A is an integral micro-controller for converting
PS/2 interface signal to USB applications, which includes 8 bits
high performance micro-controller core, combined USB1.1 low-speed
interface and dual PS/2 handler module."

That product has firmware inside. Either that chip, or one similar in
design, had some kind of firmware bug when it came out. It would "go nuts"
after about ten minutes. That kinda sounds like your symptoms. On later
devices, I stopped seeing complaints.

http://www.chesen.com.tw/images/p3-p...s/CSC0101A.jpg

The chip draws 20mA, so should even work with a USB hub. The keyboard
or mouse plugged into it, would increase the load. So you'd have to
sum the three of them, to see if they exceeded the power limits
of the USB port used. If a 100mA keyboard, a 100mA mouse, and the
20ma chip drew power from a USB port, you'd need a 500mA port on the
back of the computer for that. A bus powered USB hub port (with 100mA
limit) would not be enough for it.

http://www.chesen.com.tw/download/pc...C0101A_160.rar (PDF inside)

Since it has a processor inside, and uses its own internal firmware,
that can help explain why it can go nuts (if badly designed). The
implication is the device doesn't have a fixed function as such,
and relies on its own internal program running in the 6502, to
transfer bytes from the PS/2 interface, into USB packets.

Paul
  #6  
Old April 27th 11, 11:01 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Ant[_3_]
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Default PS/2 mice pause in 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 (safe mode too)and 7 PE liveCD...

On 4/26/2011 10:46 PM PT, Paul typed:

Ant wrote:
Someone suggested me to try hooking both mouse and keyboard to the
PS/2+USB adapter splitter. It was working for about 30 minutes and
then both devices started pausing. When I type on my PS/2 keyboard and
pauses occur, it either doesn't register my keys or gets
stuccccccccccccccck like that.


Is this an adapter of some sort, on the KVM ?


No. I tried without KVMs and their cables, and was still able to
reproduce the symptoms/problems/.


Are you referring to the PS/2 plus dual USB stack on the back of the
computer ?


What is a dual USB stack? I am just using a basic USB+PS/2 adapter cable.


Or do you own one of these ?

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/12-119-237-S02?$S640W$


Yes, I have that splitter type and without a splitter type (just for
mice -- green color PS/2 end). Both have the same problems.


If it's the latter kind of device, this is the chip inside the "blob"
in the center of the cable.

http://www.chesen.com.tw/p3-products-CSC0101A.asp

"The CEC CSC0101A is an integral micro-controller for converting
PS/2 interface signal to USB applications, which includes 8 bits
high performance micro-controller core, combined USB1.1 low-speed
interface and dual PS/2 handler module."

That product has firmware inside. Either that chip, or one similar in
design, had some kind of firmware bug when it came out. It would "go nuts"
after about ten minutes. That kinda sounds like your symptoms. On later
devices, I stopped seeing complaints.


Hmm, I have seen this problem right after Windows' boot ups too.


http://www.chesen.com.tw/images/p3-p...s/CSC0101A.jpg

The chip draws 20mA, so should even work with a USB hub. The keyboard
or mouse plugged into it, would increase the load. So you'd have to
sum the three of them, to see if they exceeded the power limits
of the USB port used. If a 100mA keyboard, a 100mA mouse, and the
20ma chip drew power from a USB port, you'd need a 500mA port on the
back of the computer for that. A bus powered USB hub port (with 100mA
limit) would not be enough for it.

http://www.chesen.com.tw/download/pc...C0101A_160.rar (PDF
inside)

Since it has a processor inside, and uses its own internal firmware,
that can help explain why it can go nuts (if badly designed). The
implication is the device doesn't have a fixed function as such,
and relies on its own internal program running in the 6502, to
transfer bytes from the PS/2 interface, into USB packets.


So, are there any USB+PS/2 adapters that would work for my situation?
How come KNOPPIX v6.4.4 didn't have these pauses even though its dmesg
show USB messages ("usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd
and address 2")?
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Ant wrote:


So, are there any USB+PS/2 adapters that would work for my situation?
How come KNOPPIX v6.4.4 didn't have these pauses even though its dmesg
show USB messages ("usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd
and address 2")?


The message tells you something is wrong. As far as I know, bus resets
are part of discovering new hardware. And that can happen, if a device
"disappears" from the bus and then comes back again. I proposed a
Power Management event as a cause for that, which you eliminated.
The device itself (like a Chesen chip) might do that on its own
(internal reset).

Maybe Linux takes a shortcut on the reset, using existing state information,
and isn't really doing very much, protocol wise ? It could be, that in
Windows they do a complete device reset, and all state is lost. You'd
need something like a USB protocol analyzer to guess at this.

As far as I know, your ICH10R has a conventional USB implementation.
It should behave like the chips before it.

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Old April 27th 11, 09:58 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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So, are there any USB+PS/2 adapters that would work for my situation?
How come KNOPPIX v6.4.4 didn't have these pauses even though its dmesg
show USB messages ("usb 7-1: reset low speed USB device using uhci_hcd
and address 2")?


The message tells you something is wrong. As far as I know, bus resets
are part of discovering new hardware. And that can happen, if a device
"disappears" from the bus and then comes back again. I proposed a
Power Management event as a cause for that, which you eliminated.
The device itself (like a Chesen chip) might do that on its own
(internal reset).


Yeah, I told my internal hubs to always be powered on (don't have any
external hubs). I still get pauses.


Maybe Linux takes a shortcut on the reset, using existing state information,
and isn't really doing very much, protocol wise ? It could be, that in
Windows they do a complete device reset, and all state is lost. You'd
need something like a USB protocol analyzer to guess at this.


Where would I get one of those? Is it software or hardware?


As far as I know, your ICH10R has a conventional USB implementation.
It should behave like the chips before it.


Strange. Someone told me that these adapters do not work well. Is that
true?
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Ant wrote:


Strange. Someone told me that these adapters do not work well. Is that
true?


The active PS/2 to USB adapter, uses an internal 8 bit processor
and 8KB of firmware.

Which means, here is room for firmware bugs. And the firmware is likely
masked ROM. It can't be changed, once you've bought the chip.
As the revision of firmware changes (manufacturer makes improvements),
the behavior of the adapter could change. You'd only get those
improvements by buying a new one. And without release notes,
tracking what improvements were made, or bugs fixed, we aren't
in a position to say anything about an active adapter.

Devices with masked ROM can be relatively cheap to make. That's how
they can sell the active adapter for $5 to $10. If they had to support
an EEPROM, make the device reprogrammable, the cost would go up.

I would test your adapter on another computer, and see if there
are still bus resets coming from the interaction of the adapter
with the computer.

*******

USB bus protocol analysers are generally more expensive than a
consumer could afford. And pretty pointless if they don't find
anything. Only a USB hardware developer could justify owning
one, like the folks at Chesen.

http://www.lecroy.com/ProtocolAnalyz...x?seriesid=164

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Ant wrote:



Strange. Someone told me that these adapters do not work well. Is that
true?


The active PS/2 to USB adapter, uses an internal 8 bit processor
and 8KB of firmware.


Which means, here is room for firmware bugs. And the firmware is likely
masked ROM. It can't be changed, once you've bought the chip.
As the revision of firmware changes (manufacturer makes improvements),
the behavior of the adapter could change. You'd only get those
improvements by buying a new one. And without release notes,
tracking what improvements were made, or bugs fixed, we aren't
in a position to say anything about an active adapter.


There's no way to check this? Dang. What about when buying? I got mine
for cheap. Do you know which ones are the good ones?


Devices with masked ROM can be relatively cheap to make. That's how
they can sell the active adapter for $5 to $10. If they had to support
an EEPROM, make the device reprogrammable, the cost would go up.


I would test your adapter on another computer, and see if there
are still bus resets coming from the interaction of the adapter
with the computer.


Good idea! I will try it on my office test PCs.


USB bus protocol analysers are generally more expensive than a
consumer could afford. And pretty pointless if they don't find
anything. Only a USB hardware developer could justify owning
one, like the folks at Chesen.


http://www.lecroy.com/ProtocolAnalyz...x?seriesid=164


Ah, high end fancy tools. Nevermind then.
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