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"yzdfix" wrote in message
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I sometimes run Evidence Eliminator, seems to do a decent job. But if the
FBI is as my door, i think my 1lb magnet would do a better job of cleaning
my HD of evidence.


"Matt" wrote in message
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"yzdfix" wrote in message
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You're in Serious Trouble - It's a Proven Fact!

FBI FORENSICS CAN FIND DELETED FILES

THERE ARE THINGS ON YOUR COMPUTER
THAT YOU THOUGHT YOU DELETED.

!!!!BUT THEY ARE STILL THERE!!!

Click here for details on the EVIDENCE ELIMINATOR

Clear your computer of incriminating files
that you cannot delete.

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THIS IS A MUST READ!!!!

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Pham . wrote:
I sometimes run Evidence Eliminator, seems to do a decent job. But if
the FBI is as my door, i think my 1lb magnet would do a better job of
cleaning my HD of evidence.

Almost certainly not. There already is a rare earth magnet of even higher
strength inside your HD. The thing is that the magnetic field doesn't reach
very far, so you have to open up the HD to demagnetize it that way (at least
the middle platters), in which case you would do a much better job by simply
scratching the surface. That said, there's companies (like IBAS) who
specialize in recovering HD data even if erased by magnets, multiple
overwrites, physical damage or even fires.

There's no recovery from an acid bath, though. Please consider this a
public submittal of the invention of a HD with a built-in or attached acid
or otherwise damaging bath or spray that can be triggered mechanically, by
timer or through software. There, now at least no big company can patent
the idea...
With Kazaa and Verizon winning major court battles, file sharing might boom
again, and a "Marauder" drive might be of interest. :-)

Regards,
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"Arthur Hagen" wrote in message
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Pham . wrote:
I sometimes run Evidence Eliminator, seems to do a decent job. But if
the FBI is as my door, i think my 1lb magnet would do a better job of
cleaning my HD of evidence.

Almost certainly not. There already is a rare earth magnet of even higher
strength inside your HD. The thing is that the magnetic field doesn't
reach
very far, so you have to open up the HD to demagnetize it that way (at
least
the middle platters), in which case you would do a much better job by
simply
scratching the surface. That said, there's companies (like IBAS) who
specialize in recovering HD data even if erased by magnets, multiple
overwrites, physical damage or even fires.

There's no recovery from an acid bath, though. Please consider this a
public submittal of the invention of a HD with a built-in or attached acid
or otherwise damaging bath or spray that can be triggered mechanically, by
timer or through software. There, now at least no big company can patent
the idea...
With Kazaa and Verizon winning major court battles, file sharing might
boom
again, and a "Marauder" drive might be of interest. :-)

Regards,
--
*Art


Paranoia strikes deep.
Into your heart it will creep.
There's a man with a gun over there
telling you "you got to beware".

Buffalo Springfield c.1968

I take my old drives deep sea fishing. They don't come back ;-)

FRH

Frank Hagan wrote:


"Arthur Hagen" wrote in message
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Pham . wrote:
I sometimes run Evidence Eliminator, seems to do a decent job. But if
the FBI is as my door, i think my 1lb magnet would do a better job of
cleaning my HD of evidence.

Almost certainly not. There already is a rare earth magnet of even
higher
strength inside your HD. The thing is that the magnetic field doesn't
reach
very far, so you have to open up the HD to demagnetize it that way (at
least
the middle platters), in which case you would do a much better job by
simply
scratching the surface. That said, there's companies (like IBAS) who
specialize in recovering HD data even if erased by magnets, multiple
overwrites, physical damage or even fires.

There's no recovery from an acid bath, though. Please consider this a
public submittal of the invention of a HD with a built-in or attached
acid or otherwise damaging bath or spray that can be triggered
mechanically, by
timer or through software. There, now at least no big company can patent
the idea...
With Kazaa and Verizon winning major court battles, file sharing might
boom
again, and a "Marauder" drive might be of interest. :-)

Regards,
--
*Art


Paranoia strikes deep.
Into your heart it will creep.
There's a man with a gun over there
telling you "you got to beware".

Buffalo Springfield c.1968

I take my old drives deep sea fishing. They don't come back ;-)

FRH

Probably the best advice... It'd be so costly to locate and recover that it
would most likely never be done...

However, a slightly better alternative would be to look into encrypting
your valuable data. I have a linux server on my home lan that holds valuable
data on an encrypted partition. I've got it setup so that there's an
encrypted filesystem inside of an encrypted filesystem. To mount both
filesystems you have to know the pass phrases... If you don't know the pass
phrases and you want access.... you're in for a long work out... :') A part
of the passphrase mechanism is a randomly created key that resides on
disk... at anytime I feel it necessary, I can delete that key, unmount the
encrypted device and even with my passphrase, no one will ever get into the
encrypted data, not even me.


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Arthur Hagen wrote:
Pham . wrote:

I sometimes run Evidence Eliminator, seems to do a decent job. But if
the FBI is as my door, i think my 1lb magnet would do a better job of
cleaning my HD of evidence.


Almost certainly not. There already is a rare earth magnet of even higher
strength inside your HD. The thing is that the magnetic field doesn't reach
very far, so you have to open up the HD to demagnetize it that way (at least
the middle platters), in which case you would do a much better job by simply
scratching the surface. That said, there's companies (like IBAS) who
specialize in recovering HD data even if erased by magnets, multiple
overwrites, physical damage or even fires.

There's no recovery from an acid bath, though. Please consider this a
public submittal of the invention of a HD with a built-in or attached acid
or otherwise damaging bath or spray that can be triggered mechanically, by
timer or through software. There, now at least no big company can patent
the idea...

Sorry, but Mr. Phelps and Mission Impossible beat you to the idea by about
30 years.

With Kazaa and Verizon winning major court battles, file sharing might boom
again, and a "Marauder" drive might be of interest. :-)

Regards,

Frank Hagan wrote:

Paranoia strikes deep.
Into your heart it will creep.
There's a man with a gun over there
telling you "you got to beware".

Buffalo Springfield c.1968

I take my old drives deep sea fishing. They don't come back ;-)

That's one way to get rid of it. However, it won't help much if a couple of
goons break into your office to get your current HD. A self-destruct
mechanism might have its use.

Regards,
--
*Art

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:35:19 -0500, "Arthur Hagen" wrote:

Frank Hagan wrote:

Paranoia strikes deep.
Into your heart it will creep.
There's a man with a gun over there
telling you "you got to beware".

Buffalo Springfield c.1968

I take my old drives deep sea fishing. They don't come back ;-)

That's one way to get rid of it. However, it won't help much if a couple of
goons break into your office to get your current HD. A self-destruct
mechanism might have its use.

But a drive crash would be a Real disaster then. And I can see all the new Really nasty virus
effects trying to access the firmware of users drives ;
Right now I can recover from a virus by using software. You want me to be buying all new hardware.
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But a drive crash would be a Real disaster then. And I can see all
the new Really nasty virus effects trying to access the firmware of
users drives ;
Right now I can recover from a virus by using software. You want me
to be buying all new hardware. ~~~~~~

No, I want you to be alert enough not to get a virus in the first place.

As for viruses ruining hardware, that's old news. There was a bootblock
virus for the Amiga that played "El Condor Pasa" (really!) using the stepper
motor of the floppy drive to produce the sound. Needless to say, after a
few minutes of that treatment, the drive was more than likely ready for
replacement. Then there was the old Apple II flaw, where a trojan could
poke a value into a firmware register that would cause a chip to overheat
(and possibly the motherboard to catch fire). In similar fashion, there's
PC viruses that mess with your display, changing the horizontal and vertical
refresh rates gradually, which can cause real physical damage to monitors.

Regards,
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*Art