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#11
April 17th 04, 11:39 PM
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half_pint wrote:
I was just looking at capacitors and I found this quoye " An F16 fighter for example, won't contain a single electrolytic capacitor." From. http://slashdot.org/articles/02/11/0....shtml?tid=137 Please don't toppost. You might consider the reasons. Electrolytics form a very thin film of dielectric, which is why they can have high capacitance in small spaces. This is pressure sensitive. F16s tend to operate in a wide variety of atmospheric pressure. -- Chuck F ) ) Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems. http://cbfalconer.home.att.net USE worldnet address! 
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#12
April 18th 04, 01:04 AM
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"CBFalconer" wrote in message ... half_pint wrote: I was just looking at capacitors and I found this quoye " An F16 fighter for example, won't contain a single electrolytic capacitor." From. http://slashdot.org/articles/02/11/0....shtml?tid=137 Please don't toppost. You might consider the reasons. Electrolytics form a very thin film of dielectric, which is why they can have high capacitance in small spaces. This is pressure sensitive. F16s tend to operate in a wide variety of atmospheric pressure. Well that maybe the reason then, I just assumed the reliability of such capacitors was the deciding factor. Presumably jumbo jets don't use them either? They fly at high altitude but I suppose they are pressurised, well some of them (caps) will be anyway. Also cost is probably a consideration on an F16.
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#13
April 18th 04, 01:24 AM
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Did shop first verify DC voltages? Your failures are
classic of a power supply that is constantly outputting low DC voltage or excessive ripple voltage. In that other thread cited by half_pint are further details and a procedure. In the meantime, intermittent hardware can run diagnostics fine all day and night. But once that defective hardware runs same diagnostics in a 100 degree F room or while selected components are heated by a hairdryer on high, only then are the defects located. Meanwhile, I assume this is XP? Then what did system (event) logs report? BIOS should have no effect on your problem since BIOS is supplemented by OS once system boots. If this is an NT based OS, then list of hardware reasons for failure is sharply diminished. In the meantime, you have three things to do: voltage measurements, comprehensive diagnostics at elevated temperature, and system log information. Putim wrote: This is my first post, I've had a lot of help from these forums before and the guys who respond to them are brilliant and have saved me many hours of headaches...thanks a million. There is one problem however that I cannot solve... I have an Athlon 1.4, 512SD Ram, 2 80Gb Hard Drives, Win2k Pro, and a 128mb Nvidia SE Graphics Card... My PC is on 24/7, and runs fine when its left alone. In a morning I'll go to play some music and it will lock up, leaving which ever note it was playing repeating over and over...also, whilst watching Avi/Mpeg or any other type of file...but sometimes, it will run for hours playing CounterStrike or Mp3 then other times it only takes 10 minutes to lock up and give out this crazy sound, to get going again I have to power off the PC and reboot... I have replaced the RAM, Hard Drive and Graphics Card (hence why I have 512 and 2 seperate 80Gb Drives) I have also replaced the Heat Sink (the PC runs at about 50 degrees, and system temp is about 45 I think...) I have also stripped the PC down and air dustered all the ports and sockets...and after all this the problem seems to be worse...I cant even watch a 20 minutes Avi file without a lock up (and the crazy sustained sound of course...) I have the latest Virus updates and have reformatted twice since the problem began.. The PC is current at a shop being looked at, and they have ran a Hardware checker on it for the last 48 hours and only found one bad cylinder one my C Drive..(which I dont believe to be the problem, as I tried both drives on there own and it still locks up)... If anyone kind enough to respond needs any more info please ask.. Please Help!!!!
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#15
April 18th 04, 09:09 AM
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On 17 Apr 2004 12:43:16 -0700, (Putim) wrote:
Cheers Jim, I will ceWHACK Look, maybe people over in the UK are just retarded but uh, STOP THE ****ING TOP POSTING! And if you're too God damn stupid to know what top posting is, DON'T POST AT ALL! `, \ Second: "I've loaded all BIOS settings Supervisor/Default etc.." "I've just loaded Optimum settings...we'll see how it goes tonight..!!" ....stupid...REALLY ****ing stupid, on both accounts. But hey, don't feel too bad: "I've just got the PC back from the shop, they've run some Hardware testing software on it for the last 48 hours, and only found one bad sector on one drive...they said I've done everything they would have and then charged me a tenner for it!!...never mind..." You're not even CLOSE to being as stupid as the people you took the machine to, to get it looked at. o_O Okay, next, use some common sense! Let's rule out the obvious: Are all the lil fans inside moving? Yes? Then it's not any sort of heat problem, pay no attention to that stupid ****in retard who was tellin you to go buy a heat sensor...*shakes head*...God damn idiot overclocking gamers anyway, EVERY problem to them is a heat problem. *rolls eyes* Next, WHEN is it freezing? When it's doing nothing? When you're doing something CPU/memory intense (like watching a movie or playing a game)? To test it, turn on your machine, let it boot into Windows, then leave the stupid lil ******* alone for a good 24/7, if it doesn't lock up, hey guess what it's most likely a problem with either the memory or the CPU. Now ya said you tried another HD in it and has the same problems, so we can mostly rule out the HD (physical components anyway). But have you checked your system for viruses and spamware? Might wanna consider reformatting and doing a clean install of JUST Windows. If you can't get it to crash or freeze using one of the default proggies in Windows...yeah, probably it's some kind of viri or spamware and you just keep reinfecting yourself with it. As far as this bull**** about "leaky capacitors" and **** like that...no...NO! Okay, let me tell ya right now, that ain't it. That's like you've got a bad cough, yer dumbass starts surfin WebMD and the next day you go runnin into the doctor all freaked out screaming, "OMG WTF I'VE GOT TEH PLAUGE!!1!" Essentially all your doing with that is blindly ****ing into the wind. If you find it still freezes and so forth after a reformat and a clean install of JUST Windows, then 10 to 1 it's either gonna be a problem with the memory or the CPU or possibly some kind of system resource conflict because idiot that you are, you have no idea what the **** you're messing with in the BIOS. And boy lemme tell ya, if yer using WinXP and you're ****ing around with settings in the BIOS and adding new parts, yeah, that's just gonna REALLY screw things up. Before you format your drive you might wanna think about resetting the ESCD, cause if there's any kind of conflict that gets created during the Windows installation, especially regarding memory addresses, yeah, guess what, it's gonna make your machine **** up! Oh, and if you ever go back to that repair shop again, tell them that the Mad Hatter thinks they should give you back your ten dollars and then pay YOU for YOUR time that they wasted by not knowing what in the **** they were even doing...running scandisk...holy sweet ****in baby Jesus...that's like bringing your car into a repair shop cause it's not running and they change the ****in oil, scratch their ass and tell you that's all the better they can do to try and figure out the problem. -- Onideus Mad Hatter mhm ¹ x ¹ http://www.backwater-productions.net
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#16
April 18th 04, 12:34 PM
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#17
April 18th 04, 07:00 PM
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You want us to wander through reams of useless, previously
read material to find one new sentence? How shortsighted. You were even taught in school that all past reference material and bibliography go at end. Please show one professional paper written foolishly as you recommend. Old material at end so that, on a rare occasion, we can reference what we already knew - what was previously read. We don't need to read many previously read posts. We need the new stuff first. Top posters are clearly superior people. They are tolerant of the foolish bottom posters - whose posts even make google searches difficult. Top posters don't routinely criticize the intolerant, bottom posters for making posts difficult to read, to locate, and who are so immature as to criticize. Normally I just ignore those farcical and insulting bottom posts as unfortunately difficult to read. Tolerance of those who would even bottom post. But your discourteous nature is so pathetic as to even post four letter indecency. Criticism of this intolerant bottom poster is justified and necessary. Please learn to post with respect. Top post using only civil words - or just remain quiet. If so intolerant, then stew in your own juices. We need not hear your intolerant tirades. Even more insulting is to wade through reams of old and previous posts only to find that Onideus Mad Hatter has again posted so many irrelevant four letter words. Typical response of a few bottom posters. Onideus Mad Hatter wrote: On 17 Apr 2004 12:43:16 -0700, (Putim) wrote: Cheers Jim, I will ceWHACK Look, maybe people over in the UK are just retarded but uh, STOP THE ****ING TOP POSTING! And if you're too God damn stupid to know what top posting is, DON'T POST AT ALL! `, \ Second: "I've loaded all BIOS settings Supervisor/Default etc.." "I've just loaded Optimum settings...we'll see how it goes tonight..!!" ...stupid...REALLY ****ing stupid, on both accounts. But hey, don't feel too bad: "I've just got the PC back from the shop, they've run some Hardware testing software on it for the last 48 hours, and only found one bad sector on one drive...they said I've done everything they would have and then charged me a tenner for it!!...never mind..." You're not even CLOSE to being as stupid as the people you took the machine to, to get it looked at. o_O Okay, next, use some common sense! Let's rule out the obvious: Are all the lil fans inside moving? Yes? Then it's not any sort of heat problem, pay no attention to that stupid ****in retard who was tellin you to go buy a heat sensor...*shakes head*...God damn idiot overclocking gamers anyway, EVERY problem to them is a heat problem. *rolls eyes* Next, WHEN is it freezing? When it's doing nothing? When you're doing something CPU/memory intense (like watching a movie or playing a game)? To test it, turn on your machine, let it boot into Windows, then leave the stupid lil ******* alone for a good 24/7, if it doesn't lock up, hey guess what it's most likely a problem with either the memory or the CPU. Now ya said you tried another HD in it and has the same problems, so we can mostly rule out the HD (physical components anyway). But have you checked your system for viruses and spamware? Might wanna consider reformatting and doing a clean install of JUST Windows. If you can't get it to crash or freeze using one of the default proggies in Windows...yeah, probably it's some kind of viri or spamware and you just keep reinfecting yourself with it. As far as this bull**** about "leaky capacitors" and **** like that...no...NO! Okay, let me tell ya right now, that ain't it. That's like you've got a bad cough, yer dumbass starts surfin WebMD and the next day you go runnin into the doctor all freaked out screaming, "OMG WTF I'VE GOT TEH PLAUGE!!1!" Essentially all your doing with that is blindly ****ing into the wind. If you find it still freezes and so forth after a reformat and a clean install of JUST Windows, then 10 to 1 it's either gonna be a problem with the memory or the CPU or possibly some kind of system resource conflict because idiot that you are, you have no idea what the **** you're messing with in the BIOS. And boy lemme tell ya, if yer using WinXP and you're ****ing around with settings in the BIOS and adding new parts, yeah, that's just gonna REALLY screw things up. Before you format your drive you might wanna think about resetting the ESCD, cause if there's any kind of conflict that gets created during the Windows installation, especially regarding memory addresses, yeah, guess what, it's gonna make your machine **** up! Oh, and if you ever go back to that repair shop again, tell them that the Mad Hatter thinks they should give you back your ten dollars and then pay YOU for YOUR time that they wasted by not knowing what in the **** they were even doing...running scandisk...holy sweet ****in baby Jesus...that's like bringing your car into a repair shop cause it's not running and they change the ****in oil, scratch their ass and tell you that's all the better they can do to try and figure out the problem. -- Onideus Mad Hatter mhm ¹ x ¹ http://www.backwater-productions.net
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#18
April 18th 04, 07:57 PM
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"Onideus Mad Hatter" wrote in message news:fhc4809d1fmm7hc259feeia0e32l806qk4@farfoos... On 17 Apr 2004 12:43:16 -0700, (Putim) wrote: Now ya said you tried another HD in it and has the same problems, so we can mostly rule out the HD (physical components anyway). But have you checked your system for viruses and spamware? Might wanna consider reformatting and doing a clean install of JUST Windows. If you can't get it to crash or freeze using one of the default proggies in Windows...yeah, probably it's some kind of viri or spamware and you just keep reinfecting yourself with it. Because he has tried a different HD you can rule out viruses and spamware you would have to be as mad as hatter not to. Unless the other drive contained the same software the problem cannot be software, changing the drive and not clearing the problem proves it is a hardware problem. .. -- Onideus Mad Hatter mhm ¹ x ¹ http://www.backwater-productions.net
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#19
April 18th 04, 08:08 PM
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Personally I prefer top posting, it has many advantages and it
makes posts easier to read. And it is alo true that bottom posters are usually the ignorant insulting bossy type. I think their main problem is an inflexible mind due probably to low intelligence low intelligence It a real pain in google groups when I have to go back online to read a post because the text is at the bottom and requires an extra link to be clicked. I guess if you have the attention span of goldfish top posting might be a problem though. "w_tom" wrote in message ... You want us to wander through reams of useless, previously read material to find one new sentence? How shortsighted. You were even taught in school that all past reference material and bibliography go at end. Please show one professional paper written foolishly as you recommend. Old material at end so that, on a rare occasion, we can reference what we already knew - what was previously read. We don't need to read many previously read posts. We need the new stuff first. Top posters are clearly superior people. They are tolerant of the foolish bottom posters - whose posts even make google searches difficult. Top posters don't routinely criticize the intolerant, bottom posters for making posts difficult to read, to locate, and who are so immature as to criticize. Normally I just ignore those farcical and insulting bottom posts as unfortunately difficult to read. Tolerance of those who would even bottom post. But your discourteous nature is so pathetic as to even post four letter indecency. Criticism of this intolerant bottom poster is justified and necessary. Please learn to post with respect. Top post using only civil words - or just remain quiet. If so intolerant, then stew in your own juices. We need not hear your intolerant tirades. Even more insulting is to wade through reams of old and previous posts only to find that Onideus Mad Hatter has again posted so many irrelevant four letter words. Typical response of a few bottom posters. Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
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#20
April 18th 04, 08:19 PM
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 14:00:58 -0400, w_tom wrote:
snip Top posters are clearly superior people. Oh no, not THIS topic again!
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