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Old January 22nd 04, 03:24 AM
Bob Davis
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Default Adding SATA drive to 8KNXP


I'll soon be installing a new SATA drive (WD360GD) to replace my Maxtor PATA
and would like to map out the procedure ahead of time. The mobo is the
8KNXP non-Ultra, so those of you who've done this please tell me if anything
is awry he

1. Install SATA drive, connecting data cable to SATA0_SII on mobo and using
4-pin Molex connector for power. Leave old PATA drive in its place (IDE0)
for later cloning (see step 3).

2. In the bios (using ctrl-f1 to expand options), set "On-chip SATA" to
enabled. With no SATA drives installed it is now disabled. Leave other
SATA parameters as they are. This bios version is f6.

3. Once booted and the bios sees the drive (hopefully), use Norton Ghost
2003 via floppy to clone the old drive to the new. Is there any reason to
fear using Ghost for SATA drives? It and earlier versions have worked
flawlessly with PATA's for me over the past several years. I understand
there were early problems with Ghost and SATA, but assume they've been
worked out. I'll make sure the Ghost version on my floppy is the most
current update.

I can install and clone a PATA drive with my eyes closed, but want to make
sure I'm not overlooking something with my maiden voyage into SATA country.
TIA for any tips or warnings.


  #2  
Old January 22nd 04, 03:36 AM
Tim
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Hi Bob,

I would contemplate going to bios F9 first. In F6 the bios gets horribly
confused as to what it should have in its boot device(?) menu. On mine it
would show something different everytime I went in - 6 blank lines, ITE, bla
bla bla don't care. F9 seems to fix this. Don't touch F7 or F8. Try F9
first - if you don't like it, go back to F6, clear cmos and proceed from
what you know.

1. Isn't the SATA0_SII the Silicon Image controller?
2. On Chip is the Intel ICH5R controller?
On board is the SII controller?
3. Not as far as I know. I have used Drive Image and all was 100%.

Your probably better off using the Intel SATA than the SII one. If you want
to use the intel one, then install the raid drivers 1st. This won't hurt. In
the bios configure the OnChip (Intel) controller to enabled / auto and raid.
Install the latest IAA application too. I suggest setting it to raid now so
that if you add another driver later you will have 3 options without
tinkering further: raid 0, raid 1, or ordinary discs. The intel controller
handles this in its stride so long as it is set to raid in the bios. If it
is not set to raid then this is not an issue.

- Tim




"Bob Davis" wrote in message
news:0oHPb.4856$Se.1569@lakeread05...

I'll soon be installing a new SATA drive (WD360GD) to replace my Maxtor

PATA
and would like to map out the procedure ahead of time. The mobo is the
8KNXP non-Ultra, so those of you who've done this please tell me if

anything
is awry he

1. Install SATA drive, connecting data cable to SATA0_SII on mobo and

using
4-pin Molex connector for power. Leave old PATA drive in its place (IDE0)
for later cloning (see step 3).

2. In the bios (using ctrl-f1 to expand options), set "On-chip SATA" to
enabled. With no SATA drives installed it is now disabled. Leave other
SATA parameters as they are. This bios version is f6.

3. Once booted and the bios sees the drive (hopefully), use Norton Ghost
2003 via floppy to clone the old drive to the new. Is there any reason to
fear using Ghost for SATA drives? It and earlier versions have worked
flawlessly with PATA's for me over the past several years. I understand
there were early problems with Ghost and SATA, but assume they've been
worked out. I'll make sure the Ghost version on my floppy is the most
current update.

I can install and clone a PATA drive with my eyes closed, but want to make
sure I'm not overlooking something with my maiden voyage into SATA

country.
TIA for any tips or warnings.




  #3  
Old January 22nd 04, 05:03 AM
Bob Davis
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"Tim" wrote in message ...
Hi Bob,


I would contemplate going to bios F9 first. In F6 the bios gets horribly
confused as to what it should have in its boot device(?) menu. On mine it
would show something different everytime I went in - 6 blank lines, ITE,
bla bla bla don't care. F9 seems to fix this. Don't touch F7 or F8. Try F9
first - if you don't like it, go back to F6, clear cmos and proceed from
what you know.



I just installed f9 without a hitch.


1. Isn't the SATA0_SII the Silicon Image controller?



Looking at the manual again it seems you are correct, although it is cloudy
at first glance, as they say to "install the correct driver" for the SII
connectors. I assume the ICH5R doesn't require a driver, and I should then
install the drive to SATA0_SB (top right connector on mobo).


2. On Chip is the Intel ICH5R controller?
On board is the SII controller?



I assume so.


Your probably better off using the Intel SATA than the SII one. If you
want to use the intel one, then install the raid drivers 1st. This won't

hurt.
In the bios configure the OnChip (Intel) controller to enabled / auto and
raid.


First, I will obviously need to set "HD boot priority" to the new SATA
drive. Then, "On-chip SATA" to auto and "SATA RAID" to enabled. Am I right
so far? Why does the latter need to be enabled if RAID isn't being used?

As for RAID drivers, are they necessary if no RAID array is in place? I
just visited the
GB site, and see the following SATA RAID drivers available:

Intel ICH5R v3 (WinXP only)
Intel ICH5R v3.5.2.2654 (W2K and XP)
Intel ICH5R Diskfile for OS installation v3 (XP only)
Intel ICH5R Diskfile for OS installation v3.5 (W2K and XP)

I assume the XP-only driver is appropriate for XP-Pro, so how is it to be
installed? Is this diskfile for use in installing the OS only (f6 option to
install drivers)? I assume I won't need this one.


Install the latest IAA application too. I suggest setting it to raid now

so
that if you add another driver later you will have 3 options without
tinkering further: raid 0, raid 1, or ordinary discs.



You've lost me here. First, what is this IAA application? I see nothing of
this sort on the GB site.


The intel controller handles this in its stride so long as it is set to

raid in the bios. If it
is not set to raid then this is not an issue.


I assume this is the "SATA RAID" set to enabled, as mentioned above. I
don't know why it needs to be enabled if RAID is not used, however.



"Bob Davis" wrote in message
news:0oHPb.4856$Se.1569@lakeread05...

I'll soon be installing a new SATA drive (WD360GD) to replace my Maxtor

PATA
and would like to map out the procedure ahead of time. The mobo is the
8KNXP non-Ultra, so those of you who've done this please tell me if

anything
is awry he

1. Install SATA drive, connecting data cable to SATA0_SII on mobo and

using
4-pin Molex connector for power. Leave old PATA drive in its place

(IDE0)
for later cloning (see step 3).

2. In the bios (using ctrl-f1 to expand options), set "On-chip SATA" to
enabled. With no SATA drives installed it is now disabled. Leave other
SATA parameters as they are. This bios version is f6.

3. Once booted and the bios sees the drive (hopefully), use Norton

Ghost
2003 via floppy to clone the old drive to the new. Is there any reason

to
fear using Ghost for SATA drives? It and earlier versions have worked
flawlessly with PATA's for me over the past several years. I understand
there were early problems with Ghost and SATA, but assume they've been
worked out. I'll make sure the Ghost version on my floppy is the most
current update.

I can install and clone a PATA drive with my eyes closed, but want to

make
sure I'm not overlooking something with my maiden voyage into SATA

country.
TIA for any tips or warnings.







  #4  
Old January 22nd 04, 05:21 AM
Tim
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Bob,

Lets stick to the Intel ICH5R in SATA mode only - the silicon image
controller is fine, but runs through PCI bus...

Windows knows about IDE but not SATA yet, so drivers are needed in SATA
mode.

SATA0_SB sounds like the right connector - closest to the battery if I
remember correctly.

I would go with the version 3.5 drivers.

This -- Intel ICH5R v3.5.2.2654 (W2K and XP))
looks like the driver to install - download and run it. You may end up with
a yellow device in device manager until you install the drive. You can
always put it in after if you prefer. It may include the IAA application
(this is a windows app that will tell you what the controller is doing and
allows you to configure raid at run time).

This -- Intel ICH5R Diskfile for OS installation v3.5 (W2K and XP)
looks like the F6 (windows setup) install drivers - IE a light weight
download for XP OS installation.

Why set it to RAID? Why not? A single disc non raid works just as well as a
single disc with the controller running non raid as it does in raid. It is
like I say, once the controller is all configured for raid you no longer
have to tinker in bios if you want to for example mirror your new drive at a
later date.

- Tim



"Bob Davis" wrote in message
news:bQIPb.4878$Se.2031@lakeread05...

"Tim" wrote in message

...
Hi Bob,


I would contemplate going to bios F9 first. In F6 the bios gets horribly
confused as to what it should have in its boot device(?) menu. On mine

it
would show something different everytime I went in - 6 blank lines, ITE,
bla bla bla don't care. F9 seems to fix this. Don't touch F7 or F8. Try

F9
first - if you don't like it, go back to F6, clear cmos and proceed from
what you know.



I just installed f9 without a hitch.


1. Isn't the SATA0_SII the Silicon Image controller?



Looking at the manual again it seems you are correct, although it is

cloudy
at first glance, as they say to "install the correct driver" for the SII
connectors. I assume the ICH5R doesn't require a driver, and I should

then
install the drive to SATA0_SB (top right connector on mobo).


2. On Chip is the Intel ICH5R controller?
On board is the SII controller?



I assume so.


Your probably better off using the Intel SATA than the SII one. If you
want to use the intel one, then install the raid drivers 1st. This won't

hurt.
In the bios configure the OnChip (Intel) controller to enabled / auto

and
raid.


First, I will obviously need to set "HD boot priority" to the new SATA
drive. Then, "On-chip SATA" to auto and "SATA RAID" to enabled. Am I

right
so far? Why does the latter need to be enabled if RAID isn't being used?

As for RAID drivers, are they necessary if no RAID array is in place? I
just visited the
GB site, and see the following SATA RAID drivers available:

Intel ICH5R v3 (WinXP only)
Intel ICH5R v3.5.2.2654 (W2K and XP)
Intel ICH5R Diskfile for OS installation v3 (XP only)
Intel ICH5R Diskfile for OS installation v3.5 (W2K and XP)

I assume the XP-only driver is appropriate for XP-Pro, so how is it to be
installed? Is this diskfile for use in installing the OS only (f6 option

to
install drivers)? I assume I won't need this one.


Install the latest IAA application too. I suggest setting it to raid now

so
that if you add another driver later you will have 3 options without
tinkering further: raid 0, raid 1, or ordinary discs.



You've lost me here. First, what is this IAA application? I see nothing

of
this sort on the GB site.


The intel controller handles this in its stride so long as it is set to

raid in the bios. If it
is not set to raid then this is not an issue.


I assume this is the "SATA RAID" set to enabled, as mentioned above. I
don't know why it needs to be enabled if RAID is not used, however.



"Bob Davis" wrote in message
news:0oHPb.4856$Se.1569@lakeread05...

I'll soon be installing a new SATA drive (WD360GD) to replace my

Maxtor
PATA
and would like to map out the procedure ahead of time. The mobo is

the
8KNXP non-Ultra, so those of you who've done this please tell me if

anything
is awry he

1. Install SATA drive, connecting data cable to SATA0_SII on mobo and

using
4-pin Molex connector for power. Leave old PATA drive in its place

(IDE0)
for later cloning (see step 3).

2. In the bios (using ctrl-f1 to expand options), set "On-chip SATA"

to
enabled. With no SATA drives installed it is now disabled. Leave

other
SATA parameters as they are. This bios version is f6.

3. Once booted and the bios sees the drive (hopefully), use Norton

Ghost
2003 via floppy to clone the old drive to the new. Is there any

reason
to
fear using Ghost for SATA drives? It and earlier versions have worked
flawlessly with PATA's for me over the past several years. I

understand
there were early problems with Ghost and SATA, but assume they've been
worked out. I'll make sure the Ghost version on my floppy is the most
current update.

I can install and clone a PATA drive with my eyes closed, but want to

make
sure I'm not overlooking something with my maiden voyage into SATA

country.
TIA for any tips or warnings.









  #5  
Old January 22nd 04, 10:39 AM
dale
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I would contemplate going to bios F9 first.


I have the rev 2 board with the Realtek ALC658 chip. Page 6 of the manual lists this information, although I also understand one can see this chip on the motherboard.

I attempted to upgrade with the rev 1 BIOS from

http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard...S_GA-8KNXP.htm

This initiated a series of comedic ERRORS that ended up with rebuilding the O/S. The first feedback was an ERROR in BIOS file size, and other error messges.

I later noticed that Giga-Byte lists separately the rev 2 at:

http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_GA-8KNXP%20(Rev%202.0).htm

Since I noticed the FE BIOS came with the system, it DIDN'T make intuitive sense that there would be a completely different set of BIOS for rev 2, but the BIOS UPDATE went smoother to FG !!

ALSO, make sure HYPER-THREADING IS TURNED OFF in the BIOS when flashing...

dale


  #6  
Old January 22nd 04, 02:48 PM
Bob Davis
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"Tim" wrote in message ...

Bob,

Lets stick to the Intel ICH5R in SATA mode only - the silicon image
controller is fine, but runs through PCI bus...

Windows knows about IDE but not SATA yet, so drivers are needed in SATA
mode.

SATA0_SB sounds like the right connector - closest to the battery if I
remember correctly.

I would go with the version 3.5 drivers.

This -- Intel ICH5R v3.5.2.2654 (W2K and XP))
looks like the driver to install - download and run it. You may end up

with
a yellow device in device manager until you install the drive. You can
always put it in after if you prefer. It may include the IAA application
(this is a windows app that will tell you what the controller is doing and
allows you to configure raid at run time).

This -- Intel ICH5R Diskfile for OS installation v3.5 (W2K and XP)
looks like the F6 (windows setup) install drivers - IE a light weight
download for XP OS installation.

Why set it to RAID? Why not? A single disc non raid works just as well as

a
single disc with the controller running non raid as it does in raid. It is
like I say, once the controller is all configured for raid you no longer
have to tinker in bios if you want to for example mirror your new drive at

a
later date.

- Tim


Got it. Thanks! I'll keep you posted, as the drive won't be in 'til next
week.


  #7  
Old January 22nd 04, 02:51 PM
Bob Davis
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"dale" wrote in message
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ALSO, make sure HYPER-THREADING IS TURNED OFF in the BIOS when

flashing...


I've flashed several times on this Rev. 1 board with HT enabled and have
experienced no problems. I did it just last night to f9.




  #8  
Old January 22nd 04, 02:51 PM
Peter Bungart
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It seems to me that this is getting way too complicated, if all you want to
do is add 1 SATA drive & then ghost your old IDE to it & then boot to SATA.
Bob, your strategy outlined in your original post seems sound. I have SATA
drives on both the SiI & Intel controllers using the F6 bios with no
problems. When I tried stepping up to 7 or 8 it resulted in weird boot
device choices & ultimately couldn't boot to my RAID0 SATAs, so I reverted
back to F6 & everything is ok. I can't comment on F9. I'm approaching a work
deadline & can't afford to hose my system right now, but plan on giving it a
try when it won't be critical. Seems as though its stable, though, based on
input from other posters. I would suggest NOT making more than one big
change to your system at a time though. Maybe you should flash to F9, make
sure everything works & is stable, then go for the hard drive switch.

Anyway, the other recommendation is that after ghosting the IDE drive to
your new SATA & shutting down completely, temporarily disconnect the IDE
drive so your computer won't even be tempted to boot from it. Go into BIOS &
set to boot to the SATA (the choice apparently depends on which BIOS version
you're running), then after making sure things are in working order you can
go back in & reconnect the IDE. If you have problems with connecting it to
IDE1, try moving it to 3 or 4 (assuming IDE2 is occupied by cd/dvd drives).

You DO need the proper drivers installed, but otherwise its not that big a
deal. I don't use Ghost so can't comment about it. I used Partition Magic 8
to copy an IDE boot partition to a new RAID0 SATA partition, and aside from
some minor drive letter assignment issues (which were easily fixed when I
temporarily disconnected the older IDE boot partition), things went quite
smoothly. Good luck to you.


"Tim" wrote in message ...
Bob,

Lets stick to the Intel ICH5R in SATA mode only - the silicon image
controller is fine, but runs through PCI bus...

Windows knows about IDE but not SATA yet, so drivers are needed in SATA
mode.

SATA0_SB sounds like the right connector - closest to the battery if I
remember correctly.

I would go with the version 3.5 drivers.

This -- Intel ICH5R v3.5.2.2654 (W2K and XP))
looks like the driver to install - download and run it. You may end up

with
a yellow device in device manager until you install the drive. You can
always put it in after if you prefer. It may include the IAA application
(this is a windows app that will tell you what the controller is doing and
allows you to configure raid at run time).

This -- Intel ICH5R Diskfile for OS installation v3.5 (W2K and XP)
looks like the F6 (windows setup) install drivers - IE a light weight
download for XP OS installation.

Why set it to RAID? Why not? A single disc non raid works just as well as

a
single disc with the controller running non raid as it does in raid. It is
like I say, once the controller is all configured for raid you no longer
have to tinker in bios if you want to for example mirror your new drive at

a
later date.

- Tim



"Bob Davis" wrote in message
news:bQIPb.4878$Se.2031@lakeread05...

"Tim" wrote in message

...
Hi Bob,


I would contemplate going to bios F9 first. In F6 the bios gets

horribly
confused as to what it should have in its boot device(?) menu. On mine

it
would show something different everytime I went in - 6 blank lines,

ITE,
bla bla bla don't care. F9 seems to fix this. Don't touch F7 or F8.

Try
F9
first - if you don't like it, go back to F6, clear cmos and proceed

from
what you know.



I just installed f9 without a hitch.


1. Isn't the SATA0_SII the Silicon Image controller?



Looking at the manual again it seems you are correct, although it is

cloudy
at first glance, as they say to "install the correct driver" for the SII
connectors. I assume the ICH5R doesn't require a driver, and I should

then
install the drive to SATA0_SB (top right connector on mobo).


2. On Chip is the Intel ICH5R controller?
On board is the SII controller?



I assume so.


Your probably better off using the Intel SATA than the SII one. If you
want to use the intel one, then install the raid drivers 1st. This

won't
hurt.
In the bios configure the OnChip (Intel) controller to enabled / auto

and
raid.


First, I will obviously need to set "HD boot priority" to the new SATA
drive. Then, "On-chip SATA" to auto and "SATA RAID" to enabled. Am I

right
so far? Why does the latter need to be enabled if RAID isn't being

used?

As for RAID drivers, are they necessary if no RAID array is in place? I
just visited the
GB site, and see the following SATA RAID drivers available:

Intel ICH5R v3 (WinXP only)
Intel ICH5R v3.5.2.2654 (W2K and XP)
Intel ICH5R Diskfile for OS installation v3 (XP only)
Intel ICH5R Diskfile for OS installation v3.5 (W2K and XP)

I assume the XP-only driver is appropriate for XP-Pro, so how is it to

be
installed? Is this diskfile for use in installing the OS only (f6

option
to
install drivers)? I assume I won't need this one.


Install the latest IAA application too. I suggest setting it to raid

now
so
that if you add another driver later you will have 3 options without
tinkering further: raid 0, raid 1, or ordinary discs.



You've lost me here. First, what is this IAA application? I see

nothing
of
this sort on the GB site.


The intel controller handles this in its stride so long as it is set

to
raid in the bios. If it
is not set to raid then this is not an issue.


I assume this is the "SATA RAID" set to enabled, as mentioned above. I
don't know why it needs to be enabled if RAID is not used, however.



"Bob Davis" wrote in message
news:0oHPb.4856$Se.1569@lakeread05...

I'll soon be installing a new SATA drive (WD360GD) to replace my

Maxtor
PATA
and would like to map out the procedure ahead of time. The mobo is

the
8KNXP non-Ultra, so those of you who've done this please tell me if
anything
is awry he

1. Install SATA drive, connecting data cable to SATA0_SII on mobo

and
using
4-pin Molex connector for power. Leave old PATA drive in its place

(IDE0)
for later cloning (see step 3).

2. In the bios (using ctrl-f1 to expand options), set "On-chip

SATA"
to
enabled. With no SATA drives installed it is now disabled. Leave

other
SATA parameters as they are. This bios version is f6.

3. Once booted and the bios sees the drive (hopefully), use Norton

Ghost
2003 via floppy to clone the old drive to the new. Is there any

reason
to
fear using Ghost for SATA drives? It and earlier versions have

worked
flawlessly with PATA's for me over the past several years. I

understand
there were early problems with Ghost and SATA, but assume they've

been
worked out. I'll make sure the Ghost version on my floppy is the

most
current update.

I can install and clone a PATA drive with my eyes closed, but want

to
make
sure I'm not overlooking something with my maiden voyage into SATA
country.
TIA for any tips or warnings.











  #9  
Old January 22nd 04, 06:07 PM
Bob Davis
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"Peter Bungart" wrote in message
news
It seems to me that this is getting way too complicated, if all you want

to
do is add 1 SATA drive & then ghost your old IDE to it & then boot to

SATA.
Bob, your strategy outlined in your original post seems sound. I have SATA
drives on both the SiI & Intel controllers using the F6 bios with no
problems. When I tried stepping up to 7 or 8 it resulted in weird boot
device choices & ultimately couldn't boot to my RAID0 SATAs, so I reverted
back to F6 & everything is ok.


Maybe you should flash to F9, make
sure everything works & is stable, then go for the hard drive switch.



I flashed to f9 last night and all seems fine, and I've seen no weirdness in
the device choices. I like the fact that it now sees my SCSI chain (Adaptec
Ultra in PCI2) and allows more boot choices.


Anyway, the other recommendation is that after ghosting the IDE drive to
your new SATA & shutting down completely, temporarily disconnect the IDE
drive so your computer won't even be tempted to boot from it. Go into BIOS

&
set to boot to the SATA (the choice apparently depends on which BIOS

version
you're running), then after making sure things are in working order you

can
go back in & reconnect the IDE. If you have problems with connecting it to
IDE1, try moving it to 3 or 4 (assuming IDE2 is occupied by cd/dvd

drives).


Right now I have C: alone on IDE1, D: as slave on IDE2, and the master IDE2
connected to a mobil rack that I use to rotate five HD's weekly for my Ghost
cloning. The mobil rack is almost never populated when working in WinXP,
and I only rarely boot into the OS with a clone connected, as this isn't
recommended.


You DO need the proper drivers installed, but otherwise its not that big a

deal.


As per Tim's recommendation, I'm planning on running the Intel ICH5R
v3.5.2.2654 (W2K and XP) driver before adding the drive. I assume this is
all I need to do, driver-wise. I also assume WinXP will boot okay and will
pick up the drive long enough to load the OS prior to finding the proper
drivers, or will the driver already be in place?

Or would it be better to attached the new drive, boot into XP with the old
drive, then let XP find the new hardware and load the driver. Then shut it
down, do the cloning, and reboot. This sounds like a better strategy to me,
but if XP can negotiate the new drive from scratch, with the OS loaded ahead
of time, that'd be easier.

IOW, the question is whether or not I should clone the drive *before*
letting WinXP install it as new hardware and load drivers?


"Tim" wrote in message

...
Bob,

Lets stick to the Intel ICH5R in SATA mode only - the silicon image
controller is fine, but runs through PCI bus...

Windows knows about IDE but not SATA yet, so drivers are needed in SATA
mode.

SATA0_SB sounds like the right connector - closest to the battery if I
remember correctly.

I would go with the version 3.5 drivers.

This -- Intel ICH5R v3.5.2.2654 (W2K and XP))
looks like the driver to install - download and run it. You may end up

with
a yellow device in device manager until you install the drive. You can
always put it in after if you prefer. It may include the IAA application
(this is a windows app that will tell you what the controller is doing

and
allows you to configure raid at run time).

This -- Intel ICH5R Diskfile for OS installation v3.5 (W2K and XP)
looks like the F6 (windows setup) install drivers - IE a light weight
download for XP OS installation.

Why set it to RAID? Why not? A single disc non raid works just as well

as
a
single disc with the controller running non raid as it does in raid. It

is
like I say, once the controller is all configured for raid you no longer
have to tinker in bios if you want to for example mirror your new drive

at
a
later date.

- Tim



"Bob Davis" wrote in message
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"Tim" wrote in message

...
Hi Bob,

I would contemplate going to bios F9 first. In F6 the bios gets

horribly
confused as to what it should have in its boot device(?) menu. On

mine
it
would show something different everytime I went in - 6 blank lines,

ITE,
bla bla bla don't care. F9 seems to fix this. Don't touch F7 or F8.

Try
F9
first - if you don't like it, go back to F6, clear cmos and proceed

from
what you know.


I just installed f9 without a hitch.


1. Isn't the SATA0_SII the Silicon Image controller?


Looking at the manual again it seems you are correct, although it is

cloudy
at first glance, as they say to "install the correct driver" for the

SII
connectors. I assume the ICH5R doesn't require a driver, and I should

then
install the drive to SATA0_SB (top right connector on mobo).


2. On Chip is the Intel ICH5R controller?
On board is the SII controller?


I assume so.


Your probably better off using the Intel SATA than the SII one. If

you
want to use the intel one, then install the raid drivers 1st. This

won't
hurt.
In the bios configure the OnChip (Intel) controller to enabled /

auto
and
raid.

First, I will obviously need to set "HD boot priority" to the new SATA
drive. Then, "On-chip SATA" to auto and "SATA RAID" to enabled. Am I

right
so far? Why does the latter need to be enabled if RAID isn't being

used?

As for RAID drivers, are they necessary if no RAID array is in place?

I
just visited the
GB site, and see the following SATA RAID drivers available:

Intel ICH5R v3 (WinXP only)
Intel ICH5R v3.5.2.2654 (W2K and XP)
Intel ICH5R Diskfile for OS installation v3 (XP only)
Intel ICH5R Diskfile for OS installation v3.5 (W2K and XP)

I assume the XP-only driver is appropriate for XP-Pro, so how is it to

be
installed? Is this diskfile for use in installing the OS only (f6

option
to
install drivers)? I assume I won't need this one.


Install the latest IAA application too. I suggest setting it to raid

now
so
that if you add another driver later you will have 3 options without
tinkering further: raid 0, raid 1, or ordinary discs.


You've lost me here. First, what is this IAA application? I see

nothing
of
this sort on the GB site.


The intel controller handles this in its stride so long as it is set

to
raid in the bios. If it
is not set to raid then this is not an issue.

I assume this is the "SATA RAID" set to enabled, as mentioned above.

I
don't know why it needs to be enabled if RAID is not used, however.



"Bob Davis" wrote in message
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I'll soon be installing a new SATA drive (WD360GD) to replace my

Maxtor
PATA
and would like to map out the procedure ahead of time. The mobo

is
the
8KNXP non-Ultra, so those of you who've done this please tell me

if
anything
is awry he

1. Install SATA drive, connecting data cable to SATA0_SII on mobo

and
using
4-pin Molex connector for power. Leave old PATA drive in its

place
(IDE0)
for later cloning (see step 3).

2. In the bios (using ctrl-f1 to expand options), set "On-chip

SATA"
to
enabled. With no SATA drives installed it is now disabled. Leave

other
SATA parameters as they are. This bios version is f6.

3. Once booted and the bios sees the drive (hopefully), use

Norton
Ghost
2003 via floppy to clone the old drive to the new. Is there any

reason
to
fear using Ghost for SATA drives? It and earlier versions have

worked
flawlessly with PATA's for me over the past several years. I

understand
there were early problems with Ghost and SATA, but assume they've

been
worked out. I'll make sure the Ghost version on my floppy is the

most
current update.

I can install and clone a PATA drive with my eyes closed, but want

to
make
sure I'm not overlooking something with my maiden voyage into SATA
country.
TIA for any tips or warnings.













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Old January 22nd 04, 07:11 PM
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"Bob Davis" wrote in message
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Or would it be better to attached the new drive, boot into XP with the old
drive, then let XP find the new hardware and load the driver. Then shut

it
down, do the cloning, and reboot. This sounds like a better strategy to

me.....



Yeah, do that....


 




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