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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 07:07:50 GMT, "andrew2000"
wrote: I use Celerons often and have no problems - including video editing. they are a bit slower in the benchmarks. but not noticeable in the "feel" of the system. regardless of what you use be sure to use good quality ram - 512 mb is a nice number. (remember that people are looking for advice here) There's no sane rational reason to ever buy a Celeron. P4-core Celerons are slow in extreme. They are also, if possible, doing even worse in 'real life' than on benchmarks, so it's the other way 'round. One thing to remember here, is that older PII-core and Tualatin-core Celerons did quite well. - You can't judge the abyssmal modern Celerons by earlier experiences! I wouldn't be surprised if the old 1.4GHz still sweeps the floor with all them 2.6-2.7GHz Celerons. ancra Whenever I have really much to do, I get so busy, there's not really any time left to get anything done... |
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CBFalconer wrote:
~misfit~ wrote: ... snip ... I benchmark every system I build, run Prime95 for 24 hours, run Prime and SETI concurrently for 24 hours, then run SETI alone for 24 hours. Nothing goes out of my door until it has done that error-free and maintained a reasonable CPU/case temp. I *could* build a system and have it out the door in hours but I hang onto them for nearly a week, until I'm satisfied, before I let them go. That includes systems built from recycled parts or upgraded sytems. How does one contact you? I'm in New Zealand and don't build machines commercially, just for friends in the gaming community. I can be reached at misfit at orcon dot net dot nz. -- ~misfit~ |
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~misfit~ wrote:
CBFalconer wrote: ~misfit~ wrote: ... snip ... I benchmark every system I build, run Prime95 for 24 hours, run Prime and SETI concurrently for 24 hours, then run SETI alone for 24 hours. Nothing goes out of my door until it has done that error-free and maintained a reasonable CPU/case temp. I *could* build a system and have it out the door in hours but I hang onto them for nearly a week, until I'm satisfied, before I let them go. That includes systems built from recycled parts or upgraded sytems. How does one contact you? I'm in New Zealand and don't build machines commercially, just for friends in the gaming community. Thanks. Wrong part of the world for me. I like your attitude though, especially if you install ECC memory. -- Chuck F ) ) Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems. http://cbfalconer.home.att.net USE worldnet address! |
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CBFalconer wrote:
~misfit~ wrote: CBFalconer wrote: ~misfit~ wrote: ... snip ... I benchmark every system I build, run Prime95 for 24 hours, run Prime and SETI concurrently for 24 hours, then run SETI alone for 24 hours. Nothing goes out of my door until it has done that error-free and maintained a reasonable CPU/case temp. I *could* build a system and have it out the door in hours but I hang onto them for nearly a week, until I'm satisfied, before I let them go. That includes systems built from recycled parts or upgraded sytems. How does one contact you? I'm in New Zealand and don't build machines commercially, just for friends in the gaming community. Thanks. Wrong part of the world for me. I like your attitude though, especially if you install ECC memory. Thought it might be. :-) Thanks, I install ECC memory if I can talk whoever I'm making the PC for into it. -- ~misfit~ |
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I think about to a Dell notebook for my daughter this year, first year in
college. I believe the laptop is slow anyway so is it worth to pay $100-150 more P4 ? For school work I believe Celeron should be good enough? Any suggestion? Thanks Hai "Barry OGrady" wrote in message ... On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 03:35:04 GMT, kony wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 13:15:26 +1100, Barry OGrady wrote: Are there any Con's to having a Celeron over a P4? Is there a big difference between a Celeron 2.4 vs 2.5? I use Celerons often and have no problems - including video editing. they are a bit slower in the benchmarks. but not noticeable in the "feel" of the system. regardless of what you use be sure to use good quality ram - 512 mb is a nice number. The main difference is that the Celeron has only a 128K cache. ..., and the FSB speed, which is a bit backwards if trying to get similar performance, since the smaller the L2 cache is more drastically impacted by a low FSB & Memory bus speed. I upgraded from a K6/2/500 with PC100 memory to a Celeron 2.4 with a 400 Mhz FSB and DDR 333 memory. The new machine is several times faster converting AVI to MPEG. My moboard can use a P4 to beyond 3 Ghz and a 533 Mhz FSB so I can upgrade. True enough, a Celeron is plenty fast enough to run a windows box GUI, basic office apps/email/etc, but then so is an old 800MHz Celeron. That video editing may even "seem" ok to someone using the Celerons, until they start looking at doing it realtime with compression, or overall job times for filtering & compression, then the Celeron starts to look pitiful I knew when I bought it that the celeron is slower than most, but I got a good price. -Barry ======== Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information. |
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You get what you pay for.
The Celeron is a total dog. The newer celeron is based on the exact same northwood core as the P4. Intel just leaves a mask step out when they produce the chip and you come out with a P4 with most of the L2 cache disabled. It cannot be enabled, I recently built a new rig based on a 2gigahertz celeron. 2gig is pretty fast at this time but when I tried to game on it Bf1942 the lag in multiplay would bring the frame rate down to 6 and 7fps on servers with 50 players or more. I got ****ed built a new machine with a 2600AMD with a Barton core. Now I get no lag on 64slot servers an lots of people will be screaming about the lag while I walk up and cap them cause they are lagged to a standstill and I am free of any lag Amazing what 640k of L2 cache will do for performance. I would not upgrade the laptop unless you are going to game on it. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 4/9/2004 |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:41:19 -0400, "Hai Pham"
wrote: I think about to a Dell notebook for my daughter this year, first year in college. I believe the laptop is slow anyway so is it worth to pay $100-150 more P4 ? For school work I believe Celeron should be good enough? Any suggestion? Thanks Yes, it could be good enough. But, if a 2.4 Celeron is "ok", then so is a lot of stuff. What I mean is that if you're running applications where the impressing _slooowwnessss_ of the P4-Celeron is not really a problem, like a bit of an office kit, web, email, etc, - then you can also get away with a lot of old things, like PIIs, K6s, PIIIs, older Celerons. And actually, a late PIII, or late 1 - 1.4GHz old Celeron is probably just as fast. An interesting observation he The slowest available AMD cpu, the 1.6GHz Duron (some $30), is _faster_ than fastest 2.8GHz P4-Celeron. But In favor of a new machine (Celeron), would be the rest of the specs, - hd, ram, graphics, display, OS. Also, you should have better media performance in that Celeron than in older cpus. Adding some confusion, is that Intel intends to market Centrino core cpus as "Celerons" (just for mobile). I wouldn't do that if I were head of Intel marketing, because the Celeron name is a bit damaged by now. Anyway, these Centrino-Celerons will probably rock! I've seen some preliminary benchmarks, and they were quite good. The Centrino-Celeron doesn't look like it will give much away to the normal Centrino. ancra P.S. personally, I'd never buy either a P4-Celeron or a Dell, but never mind, that decision is probably based on things you wouldn't consider. |
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ancra,
Please tell me more why not a Dell? Which one you prefer for around $700-800 (college already cost a lot). Thanks Hai Pham wrote in message ... On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:41:19 -0400, "Hai Pham" wrote: I think about to a Dell notebook for my daughter this year, first year in college. I believe the laptop is slow anyway so is it worth to pay $100-150 more P4 ? For school work I believe Celeron should be good enough? Any suggestion? Thanks Yes, it could be good enough. But, if a 2.4 Celeron is "ok", then so is a lot of stuff. What I mean is that if you're running applications where the impressing _slooowwnessss_ of the P4-Celeron is not really a problem, like a bit of an office kit, web, email, etc, - then you can also get away with a lot of old things, like PIIs, K6s, PIIIs, older Celerons. And actually, a late PIII, or late 1 - 1.4GHz old Celeron is probably just as fast. An interesting observation he The slowest available AMD cpu, the 1.6GHz Duron (some $30), is _faster_ than fastest 2.8GHz P4-Celeron. But In favor of a new machine (Celeron), would be the rest of the specs, - hd, ram, graphics, display, OS. Also, you should have better media performance in that Celeron than in older cpus. Adding some confusion, is that Intel intends to market Centrino core cpus as "Celerons" (just for mobile). I wouldn't do that if I were head of Intel marketing, because the Celeron name is a bit damaged by now. Anyway, these Centrino-Celerons will probably rock! I've seen some preliminary benchmarks, and they were quite good. The Centrino-Celeron doesn't look like it will give much away to the normal Centrino. ancra P.S. personally, I'd never buy either a P4-Celeron or a Dell, but never mind, that decision is probably based on things you wouldn't consider. |
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 18:21:07 -0400, "Hai Pham"
wrote: ancra, Please tell me more why not a Dell? Which one you prefer for around $700-800 (college already cost a lot). No, I won't tell you :-) The reasons are not worthy your consideration, as I told you. I shouldn't have mentioned it at all. Dell might be a good choice in your case. (disclaimer: I don't actually know that, of course, since I don't have any $700 Dell laptop, but Dell's prices are good) I was fooling around with the idea of an older lap top. But buying a used one is not attractive. People don't have the sense to sell them as dirt cheap as they should, meaning they're usually grossly overpriced. OS and hd are probably a complete mess. And a new display is much better. And so are the new OSes. Then there's the battery. Naw, if you don't have an old one to hand down, which was really what I was suggesting, there's some good reasons to buy new. ancra |
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 18:21:07 -0400, Hai Pham while doing time wrote:
ancra, Please tell me more why not a Dell? Which one you prefer for around $700-800 (college already cost a lot). Thanks Hai Pham An associate just purchased a Dell 1100 Inspiron w/ wireless pc 10/100 card, 2.4 Cel, 256mg ddr, 30g hd, XP Home, Wordperfect, 56k modem, 14" xga for 850USD. Mostly email, instant messaging, surfing, term papers, love letters, spreadsheets and no 3d games, some mp3 and music mpgs. Good enough for your daughter I think. Make sure you insure it as a separate line item against theft and damage. |
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