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Interesting benchmarks
I'm trying to figure out what really makes a good upgrade
for gaming. So far, using 3DMark2001, I see the following somewhat strange results: 1) AMD AthlonXP 2000+ with ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 128, 1gig ram: 6747 2) Same as above, but with ATI Radeon 9600XT 128: 9023 3) P4/2.4/800fsb, ATI Radeon 9200 Pro, 512 ddr: 7119 4) P4/1.8/400fsb, ATI Radeon 9000 ( same ), 1 gig ddr 7259 5) P4/2.8/400fsb, nVidia Quadro4 900XGL, 1 gig ddr 12,415 Note: before you run out and buy nVidia, the 900XGL only has a 300mhz dac clock, and 128 meg ddr !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Card is several years old. I'm very suspicious of that test. What is most interesting is the 2 P4s not making much difference, AND, the ATI 9000 on a 1.8/400 system, beat a ATI 9200 on a 2.4/800 system ???????? Weird. My AMD Athlon clocks at about 1.7 gbit, but the ATI 9600XT makes a big difference. So far, I conclude: the biggest difference is Video card. Next is ram size. CPU speed is marginal. I think I have to jump a lot to get any improvement. RAM speed is also marginal. My AMD is using SDRAM 133 and CPU has 266 fsb. I also conducted the following Far Cry tests by number of above: 1) Ran FC beautifully but all in low setting except water medium. 2) Ran FC super good .. water medium, environ high .. fish/ birds 3) Ran FC about same as 1) 4) Ran FC well, fish/birds, but crappy seaweed. 5) I have not been able to test FC on that machine ( I'll try ) Conclude: not much so far. I could spend a lot of money and have nothing to show for it. Far Cry is a better benchmark than 3DMark2001. johns |
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"johns" wrote in message ... I'm trying to figure out what really makes a good upgrade for gaming. So far, using 3DMark2001, I see the following somewhat strange results: 1) AMD AthlonXP 2000+ with ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 128, 1gig ram: 6747 2) Same as above, but with ATI Radeon 9600XT 128: 9023 Strange indeed, my 9600XT with an XP2000+ at stock speed got over 12000 in 3dmark2001SE. Sorry to snip off the rest of the message but that`s all i wanted to say.. |
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3dm01 is very cpu intensive, far cry is more video card intensive.
"johns" wrote in message ... I'm trying to figure out what really makes a good upgrade for gaming. So far, using 3DMark2001, I see the following somewhat strange results: 1) AMD AthlonXP 2000+ with ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 128, 1gig ram: 6747 2) Same as above, but with ATI Radeon 9600XT 128: 9023 3) P4/2.4/800fsb, ATI Radeon 9200 Pro, 512 ddr: 7119 4) P4/1.8/400fsb, ATI Radeon 9000 ( same ), 1 gig ddr 7259 5) P4/2.8/400fsb, nVidia Quadro4 900XGL, 1 gig ddr 12,415 Note: before you run out and buy nVidia, the 900XGL only has a 300mhz dac clock, and 128 meg ddr !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Card is several years old. I'm very suspicious of that test. What is most interesting is the 2 P4s not making much difference, AND, the ATI 9000 on a 1.8/400 system, beat a ATI 9200 on a 2.4/800 system ???????? Weird. My AMD Athlon clocks at about 1.7 gbit, but the ATI 9600XT makes a big difference. So far, I conclude: the biggest difference is Video card. Next is ram size. CPU speed is marginal. I think I have to jump a lot to get any improvement. RAM speed is also marginal. My AMD is using SDRAM 133 and CPU has 266 fsb. I also conducted the following Far Cry tests by number of above: 1) Ran FC beautifully but all in low setting except water medium. 2) Ran FC super good .. water medium, environ high .. fish/ birds 3) Ran FC about same as 1) 4) Ran FC well, fish/birds, but crappy seaweed. 5) I have not been able to test FC on that machine ( I'll try ) Conclude: not much so far. I could spend a lot of money and have nothing to show for it. Far Cry is a better benchmark than 3DMark2001. johns |
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Strange indeed, my 9600XT with an XP2000+ at stock speed got over 12000 in 3dmark2001SE. Sorry to snip off the rest of the message but that`s all i wanted to say.. I'm not surprised. My mobo is a Gigabyte-7ZXE with VIA BIOS. It is notoriously a POS. What mobo are you using? Also, I think(?) that I might be seeing big hard drive effect. I have 19 gig on my AMD, and I notice that if I don't keep it defragged, I get drops in frame rates in Far Cry. I can't think of any other problems. My system runs fine. I do have McCaffee running, and I don't shut down any running processes. I think the reason the P4/400 beat the P4/800 is the 400 has a 40 gig drive, and the 800 has a 160 gig drive. However, the 800 with the 9200 looks better in Far Cry and runs with higher settings. johns |
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3dm01 is very cpu intensive, far cry is more video card intensive.
I see that too. 3dm01 is probably not a good benchmark when trying to eval upgrades. I hope to be able to get a gross measurement that points to doing a gaming upgrade that doesn't cost a fortune, and still doesn't get the job done. I built my AMD system for about $650 total. It holds its own with $2000 computers, because they simply did not realize what was needed, and went out and bought a Dell and started tacking in "options". johns |
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"johns" wrote in message ... Strange indeed, my 9600XT with an XP2000+ at stock speed got over 12000 in 3dmark2001SE. Sorry to snip off the rest of the message but that`s all i wanted to say.. I'm not surprised. My mobo is a Gigabyte-7ZXE with VIA BIOS. It is notoriously a POS. What mobo are you using? Also, I think(?) that I might be seeing big hard drive effect. I have 19 gig on my AMD, and I notice that if I don't keep it defragged, I get drops in frame rates in Far Cry. I can't think of any other problems. My system runs fine. I do have McCaffee running, and I don't shut down any running processes. I think the reason the P4/400 beat the P4/800 is the 400 has a 40 gig drive, and the 800 has a 160 gig drive. However, the 800 with the 9200 looks better in Far Cry and runs with higher settings. johns my mobo is an abit NF7 with 512MB ddr400 ram. got a 40 gig and a 33 gig HDD`s on one ide channel. i dont shut anything down to run 3dmark or the farcry demo (dont have the full game). can you still benchmark the farcry demo? |
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