P4P800 Deluxe: Any known issues introduced only in BIOS 1016?

I am using my P4P800 Deluxe based PC to edit some home videos.
Everything seemed to have worked well with the firewire connection to
my camcorder - until (so I think) I upgraded my BIOS from 1014 to
1016. This BIOS update was done before a complete re-install (i.e.
clean, from scratch) of the OS (Windows 2000 SP4).

The essence of the problem is that I can capture video via FireWire
from my camcorder without any problem, but the other direction
(recording to same camcorder via same exact connection) simply doesn't
work.

The problem is described in detail he http://tinyurl.com/32r3g

The hardware configuration of my system can be viewed he
http://linuxlover.50megs.com/cpuz.html

I suspect the problem lies in the BIOS, but I could be wrong.

Any ideas? Tips?

Many thanks!
Lynn

It might be because you are overclocked. I would check that before assuming
that the bios has a bug in it. If you still have the problem when you are
at stock speeds, then you can diagnose the problem.


"Linux Lover" wrote in message
om...
I am using my P4P800 Deluxe based PC to edit some home videos.
Everything seemed to have worked well with the firewire connection to
my camcorder - until (so I think) I upgraded my BIOS from 1014 to
1016. This BIOS update was done before a complete re-install (i.e.
clean, from scratch) of the OS (Windows 2000 SP4).

The essence of the problem is that I can capture video via FireWire
from my camcorder without any problem, but the other direction
(recording to same camcorder via same exact connection) simply doesn't
work.

The problem is described in detail he http://tinyurl.com/32r3g

The hardware configuration of my system can be viewed he
http://linuxlover.50megs.com/cpuz.html

I suspect the problem lies in the BIOS, but I could be wrong.

Any ideas? Tips?

Many thanks!
Lynn

OK. Just checked at stock speed (2.6GHz) and the system exhibits the
same exact problem.

Not surprising considering the fact that this feature (recording to
camcorder via FireWire) used to work *flawlessly* at the overclocked
speed (3.12GHz) before I updated the BIOS.

That doesn't mean that the problem is necessarily in the new BIOS,
however. It is quite possible that some other system changes has been
introduced since then (in addition to the BIOS update from 1014 to
1016). W2K post-SP4 hotfixes, for example. I just can't pinpoint
specific relevant changes except for that BIOS update.

Other ideas?

Thanks,
Lynn

CS wrote:
It might be because you are overclocked. I would check that before assuming
that the bios has a bug in it. If you still have the problem when you are
at stock speeds, then you can diagnose the problem.


"Linux Lover" wrote in message
om...

I am using my P4P800 Deluxe based PC to edit some home videos.
Everything seemed to have worked well with the firewire connection to
my camcorder - until (so I think) I upgraded my BIOS from 1014 to
1016. This BIOS update was done before a complete re-install (i.e.
clean, from scratch) of the OS (Windows 2000 SP4).

The essence of the problem is that I can capture video via FireWire
from my camcorder without any problem, but the other direction
(recording to same camcorder via same exact connection) simply doesn't
work.

The problem is described in detail he http://tinyurl.com/32r3g

The hardware configuration of my system can be viewed he
http://linuxlover.50megs.com/cpuz.html

I suspect the problem lies in the BIOS, but I could be wrong.

Any ideas? Tips?

Many thanks!
Lynn

On Thu, 27 May 2004 21:30:37 -0400, Linux Lover
wrote:

OK. Just checked at stock speed (2.6GHz) and the system exhibits the
same exact problem.

Not surprising considering the fact that this feature (recording to
camcorder via FireWire) used to work *flawlessly* at the overclocked
speed (3.12GHz) before I updated the BIOS.

That doesn't mean that the problem is necessarily in the new BIOS,
however. It is quite possible that some other system changes has been
introduced since then (in addition to the BIOS update from 1014 to
1016). W2K post-SP4 hotfixes, for example. I just can't pinpoint
specific relevant changes except for that BIOS update.

Other ideas?

Can you roll back to an earlier BIOS?

Kevin Miller

"Either way, it is bad for Zathras."

Kevin Miller wrote:
On Thu, 27 May 2004 21:30:37 -0400, Linux Lover
wrote:

OK. Just checked at stock speed (2.6GHz) and the system exhibits the
same exact problem.

Not surprising considering the fact that this feature (recording to
camcorder via FireWire) used to work *flawlessly* at the overclocked
speed (3.12GHz) before I updated the BIOS.

That doesn't mean that the problem is necessarily in the new BIOS,
however. It is quite possible that some other system changes has been
introduced since then (in addition to the BIOS update from 1014 to
1016). W2K post-SP4 hotfixes, for example. I just can't pinpoint
specific relevant changes except for that BIOS update.

Other ideas?


Can you roll back to an earlier BIOS?

Kevin Miller


In principle I can. However, since I am not sure that the problem lies
in the BIOS and due to the "delicate relationship" between the OS
(PnP/ACPI) and the BIOS, I would rather keep this as last resort. I am
simply afraid that changing the BIOS version while the OS is installed
may result in problems that would require me to re-install the entire OS
(a costly act, in terms of time).

Since I know that in this newsgroup I can find the most knowledgeable
people in the ASUS arena, I thought perhaps there may be a "catch" in
the latest BIOS that I failed to notice.

But if there aren't any known issues with BIOS 1016, I am happy.

Unless there are *unknown* issues, in which case I am probably being a
pioneer...

Thanks,
Lynn

Lynn I cannot see how rolling back the bios to a prior version will
cause any problem for win 2000.

Backup the system & reinstall the bios. Mind you, take care to write
down the bios settings prior to reinstalling the bios so that you can
match the settings. I know that there area couple of ways to install a
bios but the most secure is via a boot diskette .

Locust

Can you roll back to an earlier BIOS?

Kevin Miller


In principle I can. However, since I am not sure that the problem lies
in the BIOS and due to the "delicate relationship" between the OS
(PnP/ACPI) and the BIOS, I would rather keep this as last resort. I am
simply afraid that changing the BIOS version while the OS is installed
may result in problems that would require me to re-install the entire OS
(a costly act, in terms of time).

Since I know that in this newsgroup I can find the most knowledgeable
people in the ASUS arena, I thought perhaps there may be a "catch" in
the latest BIOS that I failed to notice.

But if there aren't any known issues with BIOS 1016, I am happy.

Unless there are *unknown* issues, in which case I am probably being a
pioneer...

Thanks,
Lynn

that's right. I've never had to reinstall the os after a bios flash, forward
or backward. You shouldn't have any problems.
Good Luck!
BB

"end user" wrote in message
...
Lynn I cannot see how rolling back the bios to a prior version will
cause any problem for win 2000.

Backup the system & reinstall the bios. Mind you, take care to write
down the bios settings prior to reinstalling the bios so that you can
match the settings. I know that there area couple of ways to install a
bios but the most secure is via a boot diskette .

Locust

Can you roll back to an earlier BIOS?

Kevin Miller


In principle I can. However, since I am not sure that the problem lies
in the BIOS and due to the "delicate relationship" between the OS
(PnP/ACPI) and the BIOS, I would rather keep this as last resort. I am
simply afraid that changing the BIOS version while the OS is installed
may result in problems that would require me to re-install the entire OS
(a costly act, in terms of time).

Since I know that in this newsgroup I can find the most knowledgeable
people in the ASUS arena, I thought perhaps there may be a "catch" in
the latest BIOS that I failed to notice.

But if there aren't any known issues with BIOS 1016, I am happy.

Unless there are *unknown* issues, in which case I am probably being a
pioneer...

Thanks,
Lynn

Thanks for your replies, but before proceeding with this experiement,
could you please comment on the following experiences:

http://tinyurl.com/ywdu7
http://tinyurl.com/26nkw

It seems that whether W2K needs to be re-installed or not can vary from
board to board. Some require that you perform the BIOS update BEFORE
installing Windows while others don't seem to matter.

Can you tell me with certainty/experience that the P4P800 Deluxe falls
into the second (good) category?

Thanks,
Lynn


Billy_Bat wrote:
that's right. I've never had to reinstall the os after a bios flash, forward
or backward. You shouldn't have any problems.
Good Luck!
BB

"end user" wrote in message
...

Lynn I cannot see how rolling back the bios to a prior version will
cause any problem for win 2000.

Backup the system & reinstall the bios. Mind you, take care to write
down the bios settings prior to reinstalling the bios so that you can
match the settings. I know that there area couple of ways to install a
bios but the most secure is via a boot diskette .

Locust

Can you roll back to an earlier BIOS?

Kevin Miller


In principle I can. However, since I am not sure that the problem lies
in the BIOS and due to the "delicate relationship" between the OS
(PnP/ACPI) and the BIOS, I would rather keep this as last resort. I am
simply afraid that changing the BIOS version while the OS is installed
may result in problems that would require me to re-install the entire OS
(a costly act, in terms of time).

Since I know that in this newsgroup I can find the most knowledgeable
people in the ASUS arena, I thought perhaps there may be a "catch" in
the latest BIOS that I failed to notice.

But if there aren't any known issues with BIOS 1016, I am happy.

Unless there are *unknown* issues, in which case I am probably being a
pioneer...

Thanks,
Lynn

Life itself is full of uncertainty.

In the first instance the person had a double boot system using linux.
In the second instance the backward reinstallation of the bios worked.

I have found win2000 to be very forgiving except in one instance. If I
made a backup of win2000 using drive image 2002, resized the partition
& tried to reinstall the backed up copy -- win20000 would not work.

BAckup the system & try. It's like overclocking, all memory (even same
memory types) are not all equal.

Locust
On Sun, 30 May 2004 03:06:50 -0400, Linux Lover
wrote:

Thanks for your replies, but before proceeding with this experiement,
could you please comment on the following experiences:

http://tinyurl.com/ywdu7
http://tinyurl.com/26nkw

It seems that whether W2K needs to be re-installed or not can vary from
board to board. Some require that you perform the BIOS update BEFORE
installing Windows while others don't seem to matter.

Can you tell me with certainty/experience that the P4P800 Deluxe falls
into the second (good) category?

Thanks,
Lynn


Billy_Bat wrote:
that's right. I've never had to reinstall the os after a bios flash, forward
or backward. You shouldn't have any problems.
Good Luck!
BB

"end user" wrote in message
...

Lynn I cannot see how rolling back the bios to a prior version will
cause any problem for win 2000.

Backup the system & reinstall the bios. Mind you, take care to write
down the bios settings prior to reinstalling the bios so that you can
match the settings. I know that there area couple of ways to install a
bios but the most secure is via a boot diskette .

Locust

Can you roll back to an earlier BIOS?

Kevin Miller


In principle I can. However, since I am not sure that the problem lies
in the BIOS and due to the "delicate relationship" between the OS
(PnP/ACPI) and the BIOS, I would rather keep this as last resort. I am
simply afraid that changing the BIOS version while the OS is installed
may result in problems that would require me to re-install the entire OS
(a costly act, in terms of time).

Since I know that in this newsgroup I can find the most knowledgeable
people in the ASUS arena, I thought perhaps there may be a "catch" in
the latest BIOS that I failed to notice.

But if there aren't any known issues with BIOS 1016, I am happy.

Unless there are *unknown* issues, in which case I am probably being a
pioneer...

Thanks,
Lynn

Thanks "end user" for your good advice.

I managed to "solve" the problem.

I did so by disabling the IEEE194 onboard (crappy VIA controller, what
else did you expect from a company like VIA?) and installing the
Pinnacle IEEE1394 PCI card (TI controller) that I had from my old
StudioDV that I bought years ago.

All functions in my video editing software (espcially "Print to Tape")
now work PERFECTLY.

Not really a solution in my view, but it works and I spent far too much
time on troubleshooting this problem. So, until I hear from ASUS (the
manufacturer of my PC's motherboard) about some BIOS update that
addresses this specific problem, I am not going to spend any more time
on this.

Thanks everyone for your attempts to help.

Lynn

end user wrote:
Life itself is full of uncertainty.

In the first instance the person had a double boot system using linux.
In the second instance the backward reinstallation of the bios worked.

I have found win2000 to be very forgiving except in one instance. If I
made a backup of win2000 using drive image 2002, resized the partition
& tried to reinstall the backed up copy -- win20000 would not work.

BAckup the system & try. It's like overclocking, all memory (even same
memory types) are not all equal.

Locust
On Sun, 30 May 2004 03:06:50 -0400, Linux Lover
wrote:


Thanks for your replies, but before proceeding with this experiement,
could you please comment on the following experiences:

http://tinyurl.com/ywdu7
http://tinyurl.com/26nkw

It seems that whether W2K needs to be re-installed or not can vary from
board to board. Some require that you perform the BIOS update BEFORE
installing Windows while others don't seem to matter.

Can you tell me with certainty/experience that the P4P800 Deluxe falls
into the second (good) category?

Thanks,
Lynn


Billy_Bat wrote:

that's right. I've never had to reinstall the os after a bios flash, forward
or backward. You shouldn't have any problems.
Good Luck!
BB

"end user" wrote in message
...


Lynn I cannot see how rolling back the bios to a prior version will
cause any problem for win 2000.

Backup the system & reinstall the bios. Mind you, take care to write
down the bios settings prior to reinstalling the bios so that you can
match the settings. I know that there area couple of ways to install a
bios but the most secure is via a boot diskette .

Locust


Can you roll back to an earlier BIOS?

Kevin Miller


In principle I can. However, since I am not sure that the problem lies
in the BIOS and due to the "delicate relationship" between the OS
(PnP/ACPI) and the BIOS, I would rather keep this as last resort. I am
simply afraid that changing the BIOS version while the OS is installed
may result in problems that would require me to re-install the entire OS
(a costly act, in terms of time).

Since I know that in this newsgroup I can find the most knowledgeable
people in the ASUS arena, I thought perhaps there may be a "catch" in
the latest BIOS that I failed to notice.

But if there aren't any known issues with BIOS 1016, I am happy.

Unless there are *unknown* issues, in which case I am probably being a
pioneer...

Thanks,
Lynn