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Old February 17th 12, 02:07 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
TVeblen
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Default Laptop RAM specs/compatibility

For a new laptop that is on order - I haven't got it yet, so I can't
actually look at the existing RAM (I will).

It comes with 4GB in one of the 2 slots. I want to add another 4GB. Max
supported is 8GB.

I already have a stick of Crucial SoDimm here : CT51264BC1339
Crucial's Memory Finder shows as compatible: CT2741253

Both sticks have exactly the same specs : 204 pin, DDR3, PC3-10600,
unbuffered, Non-EEC, 1.5v, CL=9, 512MB x 64.

Is there any difference between these two modules?

If not, why do RAM manufacturers do this?
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Old February 17th 12, 02:44 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Paul
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Default Laptop RAM specs/compatibility

TVeblen wrote:
For a new laptop that is on order - I haven't got it yet, so I can't
actually look at the existing RAM (I will).

It comes with 4GB in one of the 2 slots. I want to add another 4GB. Max
supported is 8GB.

I already have a stick of Crucial SoDimm here : CT51264BC1339
Crucial's Memory Finder shows as compatible: CT2741253

Both sticks have exactly the same specs : 204 pin, DDR3, PC3-10600,
unbuffered, Non-EEC, 1.5v, CL=9, 512MB x 64.

Is there any difference between these two modules?

If not, why do RAM manufacturers do this?


To fool you into thinking there is something special
about the RAM ?

If the documentation for the laptop tells you anything
about the RAM, you can use that info to shop for more RAM.

Paul
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Old February 17th 12, 05:01 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
TVeblen
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Default Laptop RAM specs/compatibility

On 2/17/2012 9:44 AM, Paul wrote:
TVeblen wrote:
For a new laptop that is on order - I haven't got it yet, so I can't
actually look at the existing RAM (I will).

It comes with 4GB in one of the 2 slots. I want to add another 4GB.
Max supported is 8GB.

I already have a stick of Crucial SoDimm here : CT51264BC1339
Crucial's Memory Finder shows as compatible: CT2741253

Both sticks have exactly the same specs : 204 pin, DDR3, PC3-10600,
unbuffered, Non-EEC, 1.5v, CL=9, 512MB x 64.

Is there any difference between these two modules?

If not, why do RAM manufacturers do this?


To fool you into thinking there is something special
about the RAM ?

If the documentation for the laptop tells you anything
about the RAM, you can use that info to shop for more RAM.

Paul


Thanks Paul
That is another rant of mine: the absolutely poor specifications given
by the manufacturers on the components in their laptops. If it isn't a
use in marketing then they don't list it.

I'm embarrassed to admit how much time I have spent searching for just
that information in the past 2 days. Like I said, I will have to wait to
actually have the laptop on my bench to get the info I need.
Thanks again!
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Old February 19th 12, 11:36 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Dave C.[_3_]
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Default Laptop RAM specs/compatibility

TVeblen wrote in
:

For a new laptop that is on order - I haven't got it yet, so I can't
actually look at the existing RAM (I will).

It comes with 4GB in one of the 2 slots. I want to add another 4GB.
Max supported is 8GB.

I already have a stick of Crucial SoDimm here : CT51264BC1339
Crucial's Memory Finder shows as compatible: CT2741253

Both sticks have exactly the same specs : 204 pin, DDR3, PC3-10600,
unbuffered, Non-EEC, 1.5v, CL=9, 512MB x 64.

Is there any difference between these two modules?

If not, why do RAM manufacturers do this?



There probably is a difference between the RAM modules. You've got to
keep in mind that there are hundreds of chip manufacturers. There are
also hundreds of PCB manufacturers. Crucial (for example) has to choose
the PCBs and chips that they use to manufacture RAM boards. These
components are constantly changing from one production run to the next.
The model number of your Crucial RAM board makes sense only to someone
at Crucial. What YOU need to worry about is the specifications of the
RAM board.

Is there a difference between the two modules? Yes. Does it matter to
YOU, the end user? Probably not.

It is likely that both RAM boards would work fine in your notebook.
There is also a slim possibility that one or the other would NOT work.
There is a negligible chance that neither one of the boards would work,
also.

You can't test a RAM board with every laptop ever made...so any
compatibility list that Crucial creates is just a guess.

Similarly, you can't test a motherboard or laptop with every RAM board
ever made. And, you can't guarantee that specs. of the same model
number of RAM board won't change, either. (I've seen it...same model
number, two different competing brands of chips...) So if you see a RAM
compatibility list linked to a motherboard or notebook...it is just a
guess.

The best you can do is match the stated specifications of the notebook
with the STATED specifications of the RAM board, and buy a good name
brand of RAM board. Crucial is great.

But there's no way to 100% guarantee compatibility before you make a
purchase decision. The best you can do is maximize your odds of
success.
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Old February 19th 12, 01:46 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
TVeblen
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Default Laptop RAM specs/compatibility

On 2/19/2012 6:36 AM, Dave C. wrote:
wrote in
:

For a new laptop that is on order - I haven't got it yet, so I can't
actually look at the existing RAM (I will).

It comes with 4GB in one of the 2 slots. I want to add another 4GB.
Max supported is 8GB.

I already have a stick of Crucial SoDimm here : CT51264BC1339
Crucial's Memory Finder shows as compatible: CT2741253

Both sticks have exactly the same specs : 204 pin, DDR3, PC3-10600,
unbuffered, Non-EEC, 1.5v, CL=9, 512MB x 64.

Is there any difference between these two modules?

If not, why do RAM manufacturers do this?



There probably is a difference between the RAM modules. You've got to
keep in mind that there are hundreds of chip manufacturers. There are
also hundreds of PCB manufacturers. Crucial (for example) has to choose
the PCBs and chips that they use to manufacture RAM boards. These
components are constantly changing from one production run to the next.
The model number of your Crucial RAM board makes sense only to someone
at Crucial. What YOU need to worry about is the specifications of the
RAM board.

Is there a difference between the two modules? Yes. Does it matter to
YOU, the end user? Probably not.

It is likely that both RAM boards would work fine in your notebook.
There is also a slim possibility that one or the other would NOT work.
There is a negligible chance that neither one of the boards would work,
also.

You can't test a RAM board with every laptop ever made...so any
compatibility list that Crucial creates is just a guess.

Similarly, you can't test a motherboard or laptop with every RAM board
ever made. And, you can't guarantee that specs. of the same model
number of RAM board won't change, either. (I've seen it...same model
number, two different competing brands of chips...) So if you see a RAM
compatibility list linked to a motherboard or notebook...it is just a
guess.

The best you can do is match the stated specifications of the notebook
with the STATED specifications of the RAM board, and buy a good name
brand of RAM board. Crucial is great.

But there's no way to 100% guarantee compatibility before you make a
purchase decision. The best you can do is maximize your odds of
success.


Thanks Dave. Very helpful.
In a couple of days the laptop will arrive and i will have (in this one
case) an answer!
 




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