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Epson C80 and CX4600 - Preventing the Cleaning Procedure



 
 
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  #1  
Old February 22nd 05, 02:19 AM
Pavel Dvorak
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Default Epson C80 and CX4600 - Preventing the Cleaning Procedure


Is there any way to tell these printers not to run the periodic
cleaning cycle?

They print OK (perfect nozzle check print) until they perform the
cleaning cycle, which seems to be done every few days regardless
whether or not the printer has been used. After this "cleaning"
the nozzle print gets just awful, with a lot of gaps, the yellow
lines printed almost black, etc. After
turning the printer off and letting it sit overnight, it prints OK again,
until it performs the "cleaning" and the problem repeats itself.

I am using only Epson inks, so the obvious culprit - the "compatibles" -
is not the cause of the problem.

So I repeat my question: can I order the printers just to forget about
their "cleaning"?

Pavel
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Old February 22nd 05, 03:43 AM
measekite
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Epson like to do this so they use more inks.

Pavel Dvorak wrote:

Is there any way to tell these printers not to run the periodic
cleaning cycle?

They print OK (perfect nozzle check print) until they perform the
cleaning cycle, which seems to be done every few days regardless
whether or not the printer has been used. After this "cleaning"
the nozzle print gets just awful, with a lot of gaps, the yellow
lines printed almost black, etc. After
turning the printer off and letting it sit overnight, it prints OK again,
until it performs the "cleaning" and the problem repeats itself.

I am using only Epson inks, so the obvious culprit - the "compatibles" -
is not the cause of the problem.

So I repeat my question: can I order the printers just to forget about
their "cleaning"?

Pavel


  #3  
Old February 22nd 05, 08:49 AM
Tony
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"measekite" wrote in message
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Epson like to do this so they use more inks.

Pavel Dvorak wrote:

Is there any way to tell these printers not to run the periodic
cleaning cycle?

They print OK (perfect nozzle check print) until they perform the
cleaning cycle, which seems to be done every few days regardless
whether or not the printer has been used. After this "cleaning"
the nozzle print gets just awful, with a lot of gaps, the yellow
lines printed almost black, etc.


It sounds like your docking area is saturated with ink to the point of
overflowing - this could then give the cross contamination you speak of.
With the C80 you have both a dump reservoir and sponge area. Try mopping a
bit up with tissue and cotton buds. You may have to whip out the plug mid
flight to access the docking sponge area.
Whatever the cartridges I don't think you can override the so called
cleaning (priming) cycles.
Tony
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Old February 22nd 05, 03:30 PM
Arthur Entlich
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This isn't normal. The printers go through the cleaning cycles because
most begin to clog or dry out after a few days and this is to start the
day with fresh ink in the heads.

The only thing I can think that can cause this a

1) The cartridges are almost out of ink so the cleaning cycles is enough
to pull enough ink out to add air into the head. This should not happen
with original cartridges, since ether should stop working long before
they get that low on it.

2) There is a leak between the ink nipple (the part of the head that
punctures the ink outlet on the cartridge and the ink outlet itself.
This can pull air into the head while the cleaning cycle is occurring.
This often happens with either compatible or refilled cartridges, as the
gasket can fail over time. However, again, you state that you are using
new cartridges. It is possible you got one or more bad cartridges, or
they were not properly set into the head carriage and so they did not
make a positive seal . Make sure the cartridges are sell settled into
their appropriate slots in the head carriage area.

On very rare occasion a damaged ink nipple or some foreign matter caused
the cartridge gasket to become distorted or damaged during installation.

3) The heads are just partially clogged, and need a good cleaning. If
you'd like a manual of cleaning the heads without anything either
invasive or costly, email me for a free guide.

4) You may have a dislodged purge pump line so the suction isn't working
and the head is being blotted of ink and yet the purging isn't occurring
to replace the ink.

Again the manual I offer will get into this and the repair process.

Art

Pavel Dvorak wrote:

Is there any way to tell these printers not to run the periodic
cleaning cycle?

They print OK (perfect nozzle check print) until they perform the
cleaning cycle, which seems to be done every few days regardless
whether or not the printer has been used. After this "cleaning"
the nozzle print gets just awful, with a lot of gaps, the yellow
lines printed almost black, etc. After
turning the printer off and letting it sit overnight, it prints OK again,
until it performs the "cleaning" and the problem repeats itself.

I am using only Epson inks, so the obvious culprit - the "compatibles" -
is not the cause of the problem.

So I repeat my question: can I order the printers just to forget about
their "cleaning"?

Pavel


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Old February 22nd 05, 03:31 PM
Arthur Entlich
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That's not the sole, and probably not even the main reason. All inkjet
printers do some type of cleaning processes, usually at start up.

Art

measekite wrote:

Epson like to do this so they use more inks.
Pavel Dvorak wrote:

Is there any way to tell these printers not to run the periodic
cleaning cycle?

They print OK (perfect nozzle check print) until they perform the
cleaning cycle, which seems to be done every few days regardless
whether or not the printer has been used. After this "cleaning" the
nozzle print gets just awful, with a lot of gaps, the yellow
lines printed almost black, etc. After
turning the printer off and letting it sit overnight, it prints OK again,
until it performs the "cleaning" and the problem repeats itself.

I am using only Epson inks, so the obvious culprit - the "compatibles" -
is not the cause of the problem.

So I repeat my question: can I order the printers just to forget about
their "cleaning"?

Pavel



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Old February 22nd 05, 03:39 PM
Arthur Entlich
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What a bunch of cynical and dishonest statements. I won't even waste my
fingers replying to each part of it.

Further, when you get your Canons, even with "refill ink" to have even
1/10th the longevity of the ink against fading that the Epsons discussed
above do, or the water resistance, then you might come close to having
the beginning of a reasonable argument.

Epson does numerous things in their design and marketing I don't
appreciate, but your comments aren't even close to valid.

Art

pete wrote:

On 22 Feb 2005 02:19:12 GMT, (Pavel Dvorak) wrote:



I am using only Epson inks, so the obvious culprit - the "compatibles" -
is not the cause of the problem.



Compatibles wouldn't affect Epson's design, i.e. arbitrary cleaning in order to
waste ink so that gullible customer keep wasting money purchasing overpriced
originals.
If you can afford originals, you can afford to waste ink.
Otherwise, get a Canon and refill the cartridges.


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Old February 23rd 05, 06:35 AM
LF
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I also want to disable the auto clean head routine manually but
the firmware seems hardcoded.
no way...

LF

Is there any way to tell these printers not to run the periodic
cleaning cycle?

They print OK (perfect nozzle check print) until they perform the
cleaning cycle, which seems to be done every few days regardless
whether or not the printer has been used. After this "cleaning"
the nozzle print gets just awful, with a lot of gaps, the yellow
lines printed almost black, etc. After
turning the printer off and letting it sit overnight, it prints OK again,
until it performs the "cleaning" and the problem repeats itself.

I am using only Epson inks, so the obvious culprit - the "compatibles" -
is not the cause of the problem.

So I repeat my question: can I order the printers just to forget about
their "cleaning"?

Pavel



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Old February 24th 05, 04:50 AM
Yianni
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whether or not the printer has been used. After this "cleaning"
the nozzle print gets just awful, with a lot of gaps, the yellow
lines printed almost black, etc.


It's obvious, the cleaning part isn't working properly. I came across the
same problem, I know it well. If the printer is in guarantee, ok. If not you
could live with it with a bit frustration and a bit more ink consumption.
After you see the nozzles not printing correct, do another cleaning cycle
immediately, not the other day.

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"Pavel Dvorak" wrote in message
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Is there any way to tell these printers not to run the periodic
cleaning cycle?

They print OK (perfect nozzle check print) until they perform the
cleaning cycle, which seems to be done every few days regardless
whether or not the printer has been used. After this "cleaning"
the nozzle print gets just awful, with a lot of gaps, the yellow
lines printed almost black, etc. After
turning the printer off and letting it sit overnight, it prints OK again,
until it performs the "cleaning" and the problem repeats itself.

I am using only Epson inks, so the obvious culprit - the "compatibles" -
is not the cause of the problem.

So I repeat my question: can I order the printers just to forget about
their "cleaning"?

Pavel


  #9  
Old February 24th 05, 04:51 AM
Yianni
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whether or not the printer has been used. After this "cleaning"
the nozzle print gets just awful, with a lot of gaps, the yellow
lines printed almost black, etc.


It's obvious, the cleaning part isn't working properly. I came across the
same problem, I know it well. If the printer is in guarantee, ok. If not you
could live with it with a bit frustration and a bit more ink consumption.
After you see the nozzles not printing correct, do another cleaning cycle
immediately, not the next day.

--

Yianni
(αφαιρέστε τον αριθμό εννιά από το email)

--
"Pavel Dvorak" wrote in message
...


Is there any way to tell these printers not to run the periodic
cleaning cycle?

They print OK (perfect nozzle check print) until they perform the
cleaning cycle, which seems to be done every few days regardless
whether or not the printer has been used. After this "cleaning"
the nozzle print gets just awful, with a lot of gaps, the yellow
lines printed almost black, etc. After
turning the printer off and letting it sit overnight, it prints OK again,
until it performs the "cleaning" and the problem repeats itself.

I am using only Epson inks, so the obvious culprit - the "compatibles" -
is not the cause of the problem.

So I repeat my question: can I order the printers just to forget about
their "cleaning"?

Pavel



  #10  
Old February 24th 05, 05:33 PM
Harvey
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"pete" wrote in message
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On 22 Feb 2005 02:19:12 GMT, (Pavel Dvorak)
wrote:

[...]

Otherwise, get a Canon and refill the cartridges.


....Until the heads burn out and Canon charge you 95% of the cost of the
printer for a new.



 




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