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Another BIOS beep question
Still having problems with new install. Originally, I wasn't getting
any beeps, no video, and even the hard drives didn't seem to spin. I swapped memory and power supplies and still the same except I get a beep but this is after waiting maybe 10 seconds. Aren't usually the beep codes heard in less than half that time? |
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In article , RDellinger
wrote: Still having problems with new install. Originally, I wasn't getting any beeps, no video, and even the hard drives didn't seem to spin. I swapped memory and power supplies and still the same except I get a beep but this is after waiting maybe 10 seconds. Aren't usually the beep codes heard in less than half that time? On my computer, it takes 30 seconds to a minute, for the BIOS to figure out no keyboard is connected. The fact that 10 seconds have passed means this time the BIOS got further through the power on self test (POST) process. SK8N motherboard AMD FX-51 CPU KVR333X72RC25/512 (don't know how many sticks) Power supply - model number, brand ? Number of disk drives ? If the drive isn't spinning, either that means one of (+5V, +12V) is not withint spec (overloaded), or the BIOS has specifically issued a command to park the drive. A cheap multimeter, applied to a drive connector (to check +5 and +12) and applied to the six pin AUX power connector (to check +3.3V), will tell you whether the supply is at fault. http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusu...pusupport.aspx AMD Athlon 64 FX-51 ALL 1003 System will not boot with this processor before updaing to version 1003 Check the paper label on the flash chip, to see what revision it is running. You may need to install an Opteron, in order to flash the BIOS. Also note, there is a thread on Abxzone, where the flashing process needs the use of a particular command line option. One of the BIOS downloads contains an .exe to do the flashing, and that .exe apparently sets the options for programming the flash. The other BIOS versions on the download page also have warnings about how not to flash. The people on Abxzone experienced non repeatable conditions on their SK8N boards, where sometimes the board would boot and sometimes not, when using the early BIOS. Given you are using an FX-51, and there were issues with BIOS prior to the 1003 release version, a BIOS update is most likely to help. You just may need an Opteron in the socket in order to do it. An alternative, is to send the flash chip to badflash.com and have a later version of BIOS flashed into it. HTH, Paul |
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In article , RDellinger
wrote: I have 2 matched sticks of ram and 2 36gig raptor hard drives. I've already swapped the power supply with no luck. Is the BIOS revision also stenciled in the motherboard near the motherboard model #, ie. SK8N?If it is, then it shows rev. 1003. Thanks for your reply. That is the revision of the motherboard printed circuit board. The revision number is revved any time the copper tracks on the motherboard are changed. Normally, it would read something like 1.03 and be printed in silk screened white letters, just like the motherboard name. What you are looking for, is the paper label on the socketed flash EEPROM chip. The flash chip has leads on four sides (PLCC), and the chip sits in a socket. Now, the fun begins when you try to correlate what is on the label, with what is available on the download site. I cannot guarantee that I can figure out what you've got, but it is all you have to go on. As the cpusupport web page says FX-51 won't boot without BIOS 1003, it is something to check. Apparently, if you were to plug an Opteron in there, it is supposed to boot up as slick as can be. (Sometimes the number on the label, corresponds to a string in one of the BIOS files, near the end of the file. I use a hex editor, and download all the BIOS files, and try and match them up that way.) I don't understand why Asus didn't put the Voice POST chip on this board. I bet the SK8N board wasn't cheap to buy, and there is room on the left hand side of the board for more circuitry. The Voice POST chips aren't that expensive in volume, and Asus uses a lot of them. Another diagnostic device that is sometimes useful, is a "port card". This is a device with two LED displays on it, and the BIOS code makes blind writes to I/O port 80 while the POST code is running. The numbers shown on the display represent the routine currently executing. If the BIOS gets stuck, the number on the display then represents what routine it got stuck in. These cards are sometimes sold on Ebay, for in the neighbourhood of $29.95 or so. The pictures I've seen, show a card that can plug in a PCI slot, or an ISA slot, by rotating the card 90 degrees. Since your motherboard is beeping, that means at least some BIOS code is running. At least one motherboard manufacturer integrates this two digit display, right into the motherboard. The display is a lot more useful than Voice POST. HTH, Paul On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 00:41:36 -0400, (Paul) wrote: In article , RDellinger wrote: Still having problems with new install. Originally, I wasn't getting any beeps, no video, and even the hard drives didn't seem to spin. I swapped memory and power supplies and still the same except I get a beep but this is after waiting maybe 10 seconds. Aren't usually the beep codes heard in less than half that time? On my computer, it takes 30 seconds to a minute, for the BIOS to figure out no keyboard is connected. The fact that 10 seconds have passed means this time the BIOS got further through the power on self test (POST) process. SK8N motherboard AMD FX-51 CPU KVR333X72RC25/512 (don't know how many sticks) Power supply - model number, brand ? Number of disk drives ? If the drive isn't spinning, either that means one of (+5V, +12V) is not withint spec (overloaded), or the BIOS has specifically issued a command to park the drive. A cheap multimeter, applied to a drive connector (to check +5 and +12) and applied to the six pin AUX power connector (to check +3.3V), will tell you whether the supply is at fault. http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusu...pusupport.aspx AMD Athlon 64 FX-51 ALL 1003 System will not boot with this processor before updaing to version 1003 Check the paper label on the flash chip, to see what revision it is running. You may need to install an Opteron, in order to flash the BIOS. Also note, there is a thread on Abxzone, where the flashing process needs the use of a particular command line option. One of the BIOS downloads contains an .exe to do the flashing, and that .exe apparently sets the options for programming the flash. The other BIOS versions on the download page also have warnings about how not to flash. The people on Abxzone experienced non repeatable conditions on their SK8N boards, where sometimes the board would boot and sometimes not, when using the early BIOS. Given you are using an FX-51, and there were issues with BIOS prior to the 1003 release version, a BIOS update is most likely to help. You just may need an Opteron in the socket in order to do it. An alternative, is to send the flash chip to badflash.com and have a later version of BIOS flashed into it. HTH, Paul |
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Thanks for the reply. I think I found the chip. Here's what it says..
SK8N1 1001 5F32 GMV18 BIOS 1001 What stinks is I already paid for the AMD FX-51 and can't return it. If it is BIOS 1001, I guess I'll have to send the BIOS chip to badflash.com. Again, thanks for all your help. On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 05:25:41 -0400, (Paul) wrote: In article , RDellinger wrote: I have 2 matched sticks of ram and 2 36gig raptor hard drives. I've already swapped the power supply with no luck. Is the BIOS revision also stenciled in the motherboard near the motherboard model #, ie. SK8N?If it is, then it shows rev. 1003. Thanks for your reply. That is the revision of the motherboard printed circuit board. The revision number is revved any time the copper tracks on the motherboard are changed. Normally, it would read something like 1.03 and be printed in silk screened white letters, just like the motherboard name. What you are looking for, is the paper label on the socketed flash EEPROM chip. The flash chip has leads on four sides (PLCC), and the chip sits in a socket. Now, the fun begins when you try to correlate what is on the label, with what is available on the download site. I cannot guarantee that I can figure out what you've got, but it is all you have to go on. As the cpusupport web page says FX-51 won't boot without BIOS 1003, it is something to check. Apparently, if you were to plug an Opteron in there, it is supposed to boot up as slick as can be. (Sometimes the number on the label, corresponds to a string in one of the BIOS files, near the end of the file. I use a hex editor, and download all the BIOS files, and try and match them up that way.) I don't understand why Asus didn't put the Voice POST chip on this board. I bet the SK8N board wasn't cheap to buy, and there is room on the left hand side of the board for more circuitry. The Voice POST chips aren't that expensive in volume, and Asus uses a lot of them. Another diagnostic device that is sometimes useful, is a "port card". This is a device with two LED displays on it, and the BIOS code makes blind writes to I/O port 80 while the POST code is running. The numbers shown on the display represent the routine currently executing. If the BIOS gets stuck, the number on the display then represents what routine it got stuck in. These cards are sometimes sold on Ebay, for in the neighbourhood of $29.95 or so. The pictures I've seen, show a card that can plug in a PCI slot, or an ISA slot, by rotating the card 90 degrees. Since your motherboard is beeping, that means at least some BIOS code is running. At least one motherboard manufacturer integrates this two digit display, right into the motherboard. The display is a lot more useful than Voice POST. HTH, Paul On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 00:41:36 -0400, (Paul) wrote: In article , RDellinger wrote: Still having problems with new install. Originally, I wasn't getting any beeps, no video, and even the hard drives didn't seem to spin. I swapped memory and power supplies and still the same except I get a beep but this is after waiting maybe 10 seconds. Aren't usually the beep codes heard in less than half that time? On my computer, it takes 30 seconds to a minute, for the BIOS to figure out no keyboard is connected. The fact that 10 seconds have passed means this time the BIOS got further through the power on self test (POST) process. SK8N motherboard AMD FX-51 CPU KVR333X72RC25/512 (don't know how many sticks) Power supply - model number, brand ? Number of disk drives ? If the drive isn't spinning, either that means one of (+5V, +12V) is not withint spec (overloaded), or the BIOS has specifically issued a command to park the drive. A cheap multimeter, applied to a drive connector (to check +5 and +12) and applied to the six pin AUX power connector (to check +3.3V), will tell you whether the supply is at fault. http://www.asus.com.tw/support/cpusu...pusupport.aspx AMD Athlon 64 FX-51 ALL 1003 System will not boot with this processor before updaing to version 1003 Check the paper label on the flash chip, to see what revision it is running. You may need to install an Opteron, in order to flash the BIOS. Also note, there is a thread on Abxzone, where the flashing process needs the use of a particular command line option. One of the BIOS downloads contains an .exe to do the flashing, and that .exe apparently sets the options for programming the flash. The other BIOS versions on the download page also have warnings about how not to flash. The people on Abxzone experienced non repeatable conditions on their SK8N boards, where sometimes the board would boot and sometimes not, when using the early BIOS. Given you are using an FX-51, and there were issues with BIOS prior to the 1003 release version, a BIOS update is most likely to help. You just may need an Opteron in the socket in order to do it. An alternative, is to send the flash chip to badflash.com and have a later version of BIOS flashed into it. HTH, Paul |
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