Trying to improve 35mm slide scans w/1200 dpi scanner

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"Stan" wrote in message
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Doc wrote:

I've been experimenting with scanning slides using an Epson Stylus
CX5200
rated at 1200 dpi. Running Win98SE, PIII 550, 384 megs ram.

I've been using one of these multi-tube fluorescent bulbs and
experimenting
with various diffuser materials and the light at different distances
from
the diffuser. I tried a homemade 90-degree slide-scanning gadget that
uses
the reflected light of the scanner bar and a couple of battery powered
fluorescent lights but seem to get the best results with the multi-bulb
extended horizontally over the slide. Gives well lit scans with minimal
need
for enhancing the contrast/brightness. I have the slides sitting on a
sheet
of black construction paper with a slot cut that's the same size as the
photo portion of the slide, with the diffuser over that.

I've been able to get scans that I would describe as okay after
scanning
with the Epson scan software and tweaking with Paintshop Pro ver 7, the
color is actually pretty decent but they fall way short of the super
sharpness of the slides.

Here's an example of scans make with a Plustek OpticPro 9636T which is
also
a 1200 dpi scanner, on someone's website that look far better than
mine.

http://www.krausehouse.com/plustek.htm

Is it that the scanner is just better or perhaps there's something I
could
be doing differently? Am I swimming upstream using a 1200 dpi scanner
to
begin with?

Any input will be appreciated.


If you are going to scan slides, you should be using a film scanner, not
a flatbed scanner, and you should have an optical resolution of at least
2000 dpi to start (unless you will be satisfied with small scans for use
on the web). Actually, I would aim for something around 4000 dpi
optical resolution, if possible.

If you have 35mm negatives, the same applies. When I have negatives, I
prefer to scan the negative over scanning a print.


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Stan, New Orleans

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http://www.atneworleans.com
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Hi,

You mean that's scanner for negatives? As it will scan the negatives into
color jpg? If this is possible, where can I find such scanners? Cos it
will
be much cheaper for me than shooting on slide.

thanks
yewyee

Most film scanners and even many flatbed scanners have software that allows
you to scan negatives. If you have a scanner then check the options in the
twain driver setup screen (not auto scan).
Film best,
me

`me` said, and I quote directly -

"Most film scanners.. have software that allows you to scan negatives."

Note the word MOST. Well, I never. I thought ALL film scanners
allowed negative scanning, but `me` would certainly know, so I must be
wrong. `me`, could you please name a film scanner that won't scan
negatives? And then I will admit my error. Otherwise......

Just keeping you on the straight and narrow,
'coz you wouldn't want to post a mistake,
Chrlz.

`me` said, and I quote directly -

"Most film scanners.. have software that allows you to scan negatives."

Note the word MOST. Well, I never. I thought ALL film scanners
allowed negative scanning, but `me` would certainly know, so I must be
wrong. `me`, could you please name a film scanner that won't scan
negatives? And then I will admit my error. Otherwise......

Just keeping you on the straight and narrow,
'coz you wouldn't want to post a mistake,
Chrlz.



Hey dude, I'm bored with your feud,
So it would be cool to stop actin' the fool,
Next time I read back, just give me your feedback,
On the important questions that are asked in all seriousness.

P.S. I am crap at rap, but I ain't no pap (arazzi)

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:37:29 GMT, Unspam wrote:

`me` said, and I quote directly -

"Most film scanners.. have software that allows you to scan negatives."

Note the word MOST. Well, I never. I thought ALL film scanners
allowed negative scanning, but `me` would certainly know, so I must be
wrong. `me`, could you please name a film scanner that won't scan
negatives? And then I will admit my error. Otherwise......

Just keeping you on the straight and narrow,
'coz you wouldn't want to post a mistake,
Chrlz.


Hey dude, I'm bored with your feud,
So it would be cool to stop actin' the fool,
Next time I read back, just give me your feedback,
On the important questions that are asked in all seriousness.

P.S. I am crap at rap, but I ain't no pap (arazzi)

...terrible.

Did I see you on American Idle last week?

--
Owamanga!

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`me` said, and I quote directly -

"Most film scanners.. have software that allows you to scan negatives."

Note the word MOST. Well, I never. I thought ALL film scanners
allowed negative scanning, but `me` would certainly know, so I must be
wrong. `me`, could you please name a film scanner that won't scan
negatives? And then I will admit my error. Otherwise......

Just keeping you on the straight and narrow,
'coz you wouldn't want to post a mistake,
Chrlz.

[chomp]

My dear pet chrlz:
Can a dog spell pedantic? You can't be serious. I give you food, shelter,
clean newspaper and this is how you repay me? What kind of a life could you
possibly have without the solace and succor I prove you?
Your Loving Master
me

wrote:
`me` said, and I quote directly -

"Most film scanners.. have software that allows you to scan
negatives."

Chrlz, quit feeding the trolls. PLEASE.

I have this dork killfiltered, but that hardly matters if folks like you
keep replying to him.

Note the word MOST. Well, I never. I thought ALL film scanners
allowed negative scanning, but `me` would certainly know, so I must be
wrong. `me`, could you please name a film scanner that won't scan
negatives? And then I will admit my error. Otherwise......

He's actually right, you know. I mean, all scanners will literally scan a
negative (they'll scan any damned thing you put on the glass), but many of
them weren't designed to scan negatives and won't do it very well if you
force the issue, especially the ones without a backlight to shine through
the negative.


Ha! ha! (in the style of Nelson from the Simpsoms)

"Mike Kohary" wrote in message
...
wrote:
`me` said, and I quote directly -

"Most film scanners.. have software that allows you to scan
negatives."

Note the word MOST. Well, I never. I thought ALL film scanners
allowed negative scanning, but `me` would certainly know, so I must be
wrong. `me`, could you please name a film scanner that won't scan
negatives? And then I will admit my error. Otherwise......

He's actually right, you know. I mean, all scanners will literally scan a
negative (they'll scan any damned thing you put on the glass), but many of
them weren't designed to scan negatives and won't do it very well if you
force the issue, especially the ones without a backlight to shine through
the negative.

Mike Kohary

My name is *me* and I officially endorse Mike's message.
Film best,
me

PS: Dear Mike, chrlz is my loyal and faithful pet, please let me feed him
otherwise he may become confused and go off his feed.

Please don't waste bandwidth with new posts.

It looks like you are attention seeking.

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".." wrote in message
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"Stan" wrote in message
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Doc wrote:

I've been experimenting with scanning slides using an Epson Stylus

CX5200

rated at 1200 dpi. Running Win98SE, PIII 550, 384 megs ram.

I've been using one of these multi-tube fluorescent bulbs and
experimenting
with various diffuser materials and the light at different distances

from

the diffuser. I tried a homemade 90-degree slide-scanning gadget that
uses
the reflected light of the scanner bar and a couple of battery powered
fluorescent lights but seem to get the best results with the multi-bulb
extended horizontally over the slide. Gives well lit scans with minimal
need
for enhancing the contrast/brightness. I have the slides sitting on a
sheet
of black construction paper with a slot cut that's the same size as the
photo portion of the slide, with the diffuser over that.

I've been able to get scans that I would describe as okay after

scanning

with the Epson scan software and tweaking with Paintshop Pro ver 7, the
color is actually pretty decent but they fall way short of the super
sharpness of the slides.

Here's an example of scans make with a Plustek OpticPro 9636T which is
also
a 1200 dpi scanner, on someone's website that look far better than

mine.

http://www.krausehouse.com/plustek.htm

Is it that the scanner is just better or perhaps there's something I
could
be doing differently? Am I swimming upstream using a 1200 dpi scanner

to

begin with?

Any input will be appreciated.


If you are going to scan slides, you should be using a film scanner, not
a flatbed scanner, and you should have an optical resolution of at least
2000 dpi to start (unless you will be satisfied with small scans for use
on the web). Actually, I would aim for something around 4000 dpi
optical resolution, if possible.

If you have 35mm negatives, the same applies. When I have negatives, I
prefer to scan the negative over scanning a print.


--
* * * To reply, remove numbers from address.

Stan, New Orleans

http://www.neworleansphotographs.com
http://www.atneworleans.com
http://www.sbeckart.com/sbeck

Hi,

You mean that's scanner for negatives? As it will scan the negatives into
color jpg? If this is possible, where can I find such scanners? Cos it

will

be much cheaper for me than shooting on slide.

thanks
yewyee


Most film scanners and even many flatbed scanners have software that allows
you to scan negatives. If you have a scanner then check the options in the
twain driver setup screen (not auto scan).
Film best,
me


i will start testing plustek optic pro st-64, its 5x7(13x18cm). i will
use it with a special wet-scan kit called holder(from julio).
i will compare it with epson perfection 4990. i will buy the pro-version
with silverfast ai6. there is no better scanner/software-combination
around for small and large negatives for so little money. epson f-3200
filmscanner is another option. or any other higher priced 24x36 or
larger filmscanner.
forget all the combinations you mentioned. you will only loose your
spare time. on the minolta-scanners there is a special holder.

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Please don't waste bandwidth with new posts.

Did you say please? Does that mean you're considering my offer? Look I even
removed my comment from the title of this post. What do you say to my truce?

It looks like you are attention seeking.

The OP cross posted and I replied to a recent poster.
Sign,
me