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Delay in Start when Pushing Power Button
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Bulging capacitors ? time for a new board - now.
Biostar have never been a top line brand, nore at the other end, consider another brand / any brand with nice new caps. |
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"digisol" wrote in message . .. Bulging capacitors ? time for a new board - now. Biostar have never been a top line brand, nore at the other end, consider another brand / any brand with nice new caps. Interesting comment. I've got tons of experience with many brands of motherboards, most specifically Biostar and Asus. I would say Biostar is a step or two ABOVE Asus in terms of quality. That's not really impressive though. Asus is a low-end brand that is WAY over-hyped. Asus is Kia quality with a Toyota Reputation. I really don't understand how even most professionals are so snowed by the Asus brand. In terms of quality, I find AOpen and DFI (especially AOpen) to be top-line, with Biostar and Epox being just below them. But there are other good brands also in the same tier (second) such as Gigabyte, Chaintech, and MSI. Asus you won't find at the bottom end. The very bottom of the list will always be occupied by PCCHIPS/ECS. Still, if PCCHIPS/ECS raises their quality a bit, they might be able to compete with Asus soon. That's pretty sad. -Dave |
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"Mike T." noway nohow.not wrote:
"digisol" no spam.invalid wrote in message news:j5g%f.76661$Un3.21882 fe10.news.easynews.com... Bulging capacitors ? time for a new board - now. Biostar have never been a top line brand, nore at the other end, consider another brand / any brand with nice new caps. Interesting comment. I've got tons of experience with many brands of motherboards, most specifically Biostar and Asus. I would say Biostar is a step or two ABOVE Asus in terms of quality. That's not really impressive though. Asus is a low-end brand that is WAY over-hyped. Asus is Kia quality with a Toyota Reputation. I really don't understand how even most professionals are so snowed by the Asus brand. If your opinion is based on "tons of experience", why wouldn't professionals with at least as much experience have a better opinion? In terms of quality, I find AOpen and DFI (especially AOpen) to be top-line, with Biostar and Epox being just below them. AOpen isn't even on the chart and Epox registers last according to USENET user popularity. But there are other good brands also in the same tier (second) such as Gigabyte, Chaintech, and MSI... -Dave I think you're getting warm. Gigabyte and MSI are third and fourth in popularity among USENET users. Those statistics according to my USENET server. I'm not suggesting any direct meaning except for popularity among mostly technically inclined USENET users. But when something is very popular, people tend to notice defects, the product is under greater scrutiny. Besides, you're more likely to get answers when you need help. The ability to get technical help on USENET is in part how I base my purchases. Good luck. Path: newssvr25.news.prodigy.net!newsdbm05.news.prodigy. com!newsdst01.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01b.news.pro digy.com!prodigy.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!pr odigy.net!news.glorb.com!news-out.octanews.net!indigo.octanews.net!authen.yellow .readfreenews.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Mike T." noway nohow.not Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt References: SUJVf.2902$vq2.1381 fe05.news.easynews.com j5g%f.76661$Un3.21882 fe10.news.easynews.com Subject: Delay in Start when Pushing Power Button Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:05:23 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Lines: 26 Message-ID: 443e3e84$0$14626$892e7fe2 authen.yellow.readfreenews.net Organization: Read Free News NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Apr 2006 07:05:24 CDT X-Trace: DXC=O]YjTd\nQC0jWX_T2Njh:4bQ9WK20`32O6Gh9bA988MK:CVj06 ME:7jE2g=hJ\C=R1VgoJ1e^J4H jgPQJE53;5fYcgLTD1F; Xref: prodigy.net alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt:463642 |
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Interesting comment. I've got tons of experience with many brands of motherboards, most specifically Biostar and Asus. I would say Biostar is a step or two ABOVE Asus in terms of quality. That's not really impressive though. Asus is a low-end brand that is WAY over-hyped. Asus is Kia quality with a Toyota Reputation. I really don't understand how even most professionals are so snowed by the Asus brand. If your opinion is based on "tons of experience", why wouldn't professionals with at least as much experience have a better opinion? Because I'm a professional myself. In fact, if Asus was better quality, I might be unemployed, so I better not bitch too much about Asus quality, or lack thereof. I'm pretty busy tracing problems to defective Asus boards and swapping them out for better brands. If all systems had DFI and Biostar boards to begin with, I'd be looking for work right now. -Dave |
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"Dave" wrote:
Interesting comment. I've got tons of experience with many brands of motherboards, most specifically Biostar and Asus. I would say Biostar is a step or two ABOVE Asus in terms of quality. That's not really impressive though. Asus is a low-end brand that is WAY over-hyped. Asus is Kia quality with a Toyota Reputation. I really don't understand how even most professionals are so snowed by the Asus brand. If your opinion is based on "tons of experience", why wouldn't professionals with at least as much experience have a better opinion? Because I'm a professional myself. In fact, if Asus was better quality, I might be unemployed, so I better not bitch too much about Asus quality, or lack thereof. I'm pretty busy tracing problems to defective Asus boards and swapping them out for better brands. If all systems had DFI and Biostar boards to begin with, I'd be looking for work right now. -Dave Or maybe Asus is so popular and DFI/Biostar are so unpopular, it just looks that way. In other words, perhaps you run across many malfunctioning Asus mainboards because because they are many times the number of DFI and Biostar. I'm not a fan of Asus, I'm trying to figure out the common sense inconsistency of your argument. Maybe Asus is so popular because OEMs prefer them? Then again, OEMs do not like support calls. Are you talking about boards that are out of warranty? |
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Delay in Start when Pushing Power Button
Or maybe Asus is so popular and DFI/Biostar are so unpopular, it just looks that way. In other words, perhaps you run across many malfunctioning Asus mainboards because because they are many times the number of DFI and Biostar. I'm not a fan of Asus, I'm trying to figure out the common sense inconsistency of your argument. Maybe Asus is so popular because OEMs prefer them? Then again, OEMs do not like support calls. Are you talking about boards that are out of warranty? Most of the failures I see happen well within the first year, typically within the first few months. Don't know about the warranty issue, as I don't deal with that. The systems I support need zero downtime (or as close to possible), so when I have a mainboard failure, I replace it and someone else gets the headache of what to do with the piece of crap. (I suspect most of them end up in the garbage) From what I've observed, Asus boards seem to have a 10% or higher failure rate within the first year of normal use, with a ~8% failure rate within the first few months of normal use. (most failures happen pretty fast, some within days of when the system is finished) I wouldn't build a system with an Asus board if someone held a gun to my head. Well, maybe if she was cute, and only needed a Internet appliance and asked REALLY NICELY. -Dave |
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