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Firefox 3.5.6 crashes Athlon X4 based system
I have an Athlon 2, x4 620 quad core processor system on\
Asus M4A78 motherboard. When I run firefox 3.5.5 or 3.5.6 and refresh several tabs in rapid succession, it freezes the box unde xp sp3. What happens is task manager - performance tab shows one of cores going upto 100% of CPU useage, mouse freezes, keyboard is dead and disk stops flashing every couple of seconds like it normally does under windows. System is totally dead and needs to be rebooted. Anyboyd knows anything about it? -- Programmer's Goldmine collections: http://preciseinfo.org |
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Firefox 3.5.6 crashes Athlon X4 based system
"tanix" wrote in message ... I have an Athlon 2, x4 620 quad core processor system on\ Asus M4A78 motherboard. When I run firefox 3.5.5 or 3.5.6 and refresh several tabs in rapid succession, it freezes the box unde xp sp3. What happens is task manager - performance tab shows one of cores going upto 100% of CPU useage, mouse freezes, keyboard is dead and disk stops flashing every couple of seconds like it normally does under windows. System is totally dead and needs to be rebooted. Anyboyd knows anything about it? -- Programmer's Goldmine collections: http://preciseinfo.org Have you asked Firefox support? http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/ Do you have access to any other computers where you can see if the issues occur in other hardware configurations? I installed Ff on a computer here w/Phenom x4 955 @ 3.6 GHz and 8 Gig, running W7 Ultimate x64 (as close as I can come to your hardware) and tried to replicate your scenario. No issues at all. |
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Firefox 3.5.6 crashes Athlon X4 based system
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:57:27 +0000, tanix wrote:
I have an Athlon 2, x4 620 quad core processor system on\ Asus M4A78 motherboard. When I run firefox 3.5.5 or 3.5.6 and refresh several tabs in rapid succession, it freezes the box unde xp sp3. What happens is task manager - performance tab shows one of cores going upto 100% of CPU useage, mouse freezes, keyboard is dead and disk stops flashing every couple of seconds like it normally does under windows. System is totally dead and needs to be rebooted. Anyboyd knows anything about it? Had something similar after upgrading ram from 2 to 4gb. Memtest ran fine, but when my system ran mythcommflag it would crash.Turned out to be the ram voltage, which was rated at 2.1v was only being set to 1.8 something. Which was not enough under a large system load. Set it manually to 1.9 in bios iirc and never had another problem. ymmv. -- Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org My Tivo Experience http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/tivo.htm Tivo HD/S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php |
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Firefox 3.5.6 crashes Athlon X4 based system
In article , "PvdG42" wrote:
"tanix" wrote in message ... I have an Athlon 2, x4 620 quad core processor system on\ Asus M4A78 motherboard. When I run firefox 3.5.5 or 3.5.6 and refresh several tabs in rapid succession, it freezes the box unde xp sp3. What happens is task manager - performance tab shows one of cores going upto 100% of CPU useage, mouse freezes, keyboard is dead and disk stops flashing every couple of seconds like it normally does under windows. System is totally dead and needs to be rebooted. Anyboyd knows anything about it? Have you asked Firefox support? Yep, I did. So far, no luck. Its been 2 days already. But there is so much traffic on this forum, I am not sure anyone would care about this issue since it is not win 7 related. http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/ Do you have access to any other computers where you can see if the issues occur in other hardware configurations? Works like a champ on a single core processor. Never had a problem with it under ff 3.5.5. I installed Ff on a computer here w/Phenom x4 955 @ 3.6 GHz and 8 Gig, running W7 Ultimate x64 (as close as I can come to your hardware) and tried to replicate your scenario. No issues at all. Well, the thing is it DOES work find under win 7. Someone said the xp scheduler is crappy and it is not a firefox problem. Could be, who knows. May be ff just creates some nasty conditions and scheduler can't handle it. Someone even said there is a fix for xp scheduler. But I was not able to find anything so far. This is pretty bad situation for me. Cause I am doing a lot of important work and may loose all sorts of stuff if I forget that ff may lock up the box. -- Programmer's Goldmine collections: http://preciseinfo.org |
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Firefox 3.5.6 crashes Athlon X4 based system
In article , Wes Newell wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:57:27 +0000, tanix wrote: I have an Athlon 2, x4 620 quad core processor system on\ Asus M4A78 motherboard. When I run firefox 3.5.5 or 3.5.6 and refresh several tabs in rapid succession, it freezes the box unde xp sp3. What happens is task manager - performance tab shows one of cores going upto 100% of CPU useage, mouse freezes, keyboard is dead and disk stops flashing every couple of seconds like it normally does under windows. System is totally dead and needs to be rebooted. Anyboyd knows anything about it? Had something similar after upgrading ram from 2 to 4gb. Memtest ran fine, but when my system ran mythcommflag it would crash.Turned out to be the ram voltage, which was rated at 2.1v was only being set to 1.8 something. Which was not enough under a large system load. Set it manually to 1.9 in bios iirc and never had another problem. ymmv. I ran memetest86 for at least 20 hrs. No problems. I also ran this Prime95 stress test, which loads up all the cores to the max doing some heavy duty math processing. Also ran fine for several hours. Except that one does not do much testing of other things. Could be a network driver or just about anything you can imagine. So, doing just math processing isn't good enough of a test. I wonder if there is some other stress test, especially for XP multicore issues. -- Programmer's Goldmine collections: http://preciseinfo.org |
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Firefox 3.5.6 crashes Athlon X4 based system
In article , Steve wrote:
In article , says... I have an Athlon 2, x4 620 quad core processor system on\ Asus M4A78 motherboard. When I run firefox 3.5.5 or 3.5.6 and refresh several tabs in rapid succession, it freezes the box unde xp sp3. What happens is task manager - performance tab shows one of cores going upto 100% of CPU useage, mouse freezes, keyboard is dead and disk stops flashing every couple of seconds like it normally does under windows. System is totally dead and needs to be rebooted. Anyboyd knows anything about it? What happens when you run Firefox in safe mode? Well, I did not try it yet. Some people suggested doing it. I am just not sure what does it achieve. Right now I disabled all the addons except of imacros, cause that is the one I need the worst and never had a problem with it on a single core system. -- Programmer's Goldmine collections: http://preciseinfo.org |
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Firefox 3.5.6 crashes Athlon X4 based system
Hi, Tanix.
Had something similar after upgrading ram from 2 to 4gb. Memtest ran fine... I ran memetest86 for at least 20 hrs. No problems. Like Wes, I had problems after doubling RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB last year. I've never run FireFox at all. When Vista went RTM 3 years ago, I rebuilt my computer to celebrate. I got a new mobo/CPU/RAM all from NewEgg a kind of a matched set: EPoX MF570sli mobo/AMD Athlon 65 X2 5000 CPU/2x1 GB OCZ PC-6400 SDRAM. This ran Vista Ultimate x64 just fine for about a year. Then I ordered another 2x1 GB OCZ RAM from NewEgg, identical to the first pair. Everything was good for about 6 months. Then random BSODs started happening. I tried MANY fixes, starting with a through internal cleaning, new Antec PSU, even a new 1 TB SATA HDD. Memtest86 said all the RAM was fine. Finally I gave up and took it to a reliable local shop that I've dealt with before. Casey tested it thoroughly and replaced 3 fans, but the problems quickly returned, so I took it back to the shop. He ran some more stringent RAM stress tests and said that it passed them all, but when he took out one of the two new sticks, the BSODs stopped. I ran for the next few months without that one DIMM and had no problems. When I contacted OCZ for RMA, the tech insisted that I send BOTH new sticks so that they could be tested by the factory as a matched pair. OCZ sent me 2 new DIMMs; again, apparently identical to the original pair. That was last Spring and I've had no more BSODs. ;) My point is that some RAM problems are so subtle that we really can't diagnose them in the field. And the problems they create can mimic almost any kind of computer defect, sending us on many wild goose chases. The one consistency is inconsistency; we seldom get the same Stop Code twice. We can suspect the PSU, the hard drive, drivers, applications, heat buildup, RFI...just about anything. You might want to contact the maker of your RAM about a warranty replacement of some or all of your memory. Many brands sell with a lifetime warranty. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64 "tanix" wrote in message ... In article , Wes Newell wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:57:27 +0000, tanix wrote: I have an Athlon 2, x4 620 quad core processor system on\ Asus M4A78 motherboard. When I run firefox 3.5.5 or 3.5.6 and refresh several tabs in rapid succession, it freezes the box unde xp sp3. What happens is task manager - performance tab shows one of cores going upto 100% of CPU useage, mouse freezes, keyboard is dead and disk stops flashing every couple of seconds like it normally does under windows. System is totally dead and needs to be rebooted. Anyboyd knows anything about it? Had something similar after upgrading ram from 2 to 4gb. Memtest ran fine, but when my system ran mythcommflag it would crash.Turned out to be the ram voltage, which was rated at 2.1v was only being set to 1.8 something. Which was not enough under a large system load. Set it manually to 1.9 in bios iirc and never had another problem. ymmv. I ran memetest86 for at least 20 hrs. No problems. I also ran this Prime95 stress test, which loads up all the cores to the max doing some heavy duty math processing. Also ran fine for several hours. Except that one does not do much testing of other things. Could be a network driver or just about anything you can imagine. So, doing just math processing isn't good enough of a test. I wonder if there is some other stress test, especially for XP multicore issues. -- Programmer's Goldmine collections: http://preciseinfo.org |
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Firefox 3.5.6 crashes Athlon X4 based system
In article , "R. C. White" wrote:
Hi, Tanix. Had something similar after upgrading ram from 2 to 4gb. Memtest ran fine... I ran memetest86 for at least 20 hrs. No problems. Like Wes, I had problems after doubling RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB last year. I've never run FireFox at all. When Vista went RTM 3 years ago, I rebuilt my computer to celebrate. I got a new mobo/CPU/RAM all from NewEgg a kind of a matched set: EPoX MF570sli mobo/AMD Athlon 65 X2 5000 CPU/2x1 GB OCZ PC-6400 SDRAM. This ran Vista Ultimate x64 just fine for about a year. Then I ordered another 2x1 GB OCZ RAM from NewEgg, identical to the first pair. Everything was good for about 6 months. Then random BSODs started happening. I tried MANY fixes, starting with a through internal cleaning, new Antec PSU, even a new 1 TB SATA HDD. Memtest86 said all the RAM was fine. Finally I gave up and took it to a reliable local shop that I've dealt with before. Casey tested it thoroughly and replaced 3 fans, but the problems quickly returned, so I took it back to the shop. He ran some more stringent RAM stress tests and said that it passed them all, but when he took out one of the two new sticks, the BSODs stopped. I ran for the next few months without that one DIMM and had no problems. When I contacted OCZ for RMA, the tech insisted that I send BOTH new sticks so that they could be tested by the factory as a matched pair. OCZ sent me 2 new DIMMs; again, apparently identical to the original pair. That was last Spring and I've had no more BSODs. ;) My point is that some RAM problems are so subtle that we really can't diagnose them in the field. And the problems they create can mimic almost any kind of computer defect, sending us on many wild goose chases. The one consistency is inconsistency; we seldom get the same Stop Code twice. We can suspect the PSU, the hard drive, drivers, applications, heat buildup, RFI...just about anything. You might want to contact the maker of your RAM about a warranty replacement of some or all of your memory. Many brands sell with a lifetime warranty. RC Yep, there are things like DMA transfers, burst mode and you name it related to ram. I bet the memtest86 is way too primitive to exhaustively test all the access modes. Just flipping bits around can only detect the obvious cases, such as some data bits being shorted out and things like that. But ram was the first thing i suspected. We'll see how it goes. -- Programmer's Goldmine collections: http://preciseinfo.org |
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