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Rod Speed wrote: kony wrote Rod Speed wrote Nick wrote That's what happened with XP. In the beginning nobody wanted it. Now how many Windows users would be without it? haha, I think all the people who suffered through the dibacle known as windows ME were PRAYING for XP to come out. 'think' again, plenty had enough of a clue to be able to use ME effectively. Essentially the issue was whether one had better than average ability to tweak (and restrain) Windows or not. Wrong, as always. No need to tweak it at all. With WinME it could run acceptibly (in the context of Win9x running acceptibly, not NT), but you had to make changes Wrong, as always. My installations all ran better than SE did with no tweaking what so ever. which is something many are hesitant to do. Not even necessary. You don't really think you have enough credibility for anyone to believe you, do you? |
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"Merrill P. L. Worthington" wrote:
Rod Speed wrote: .... snip ... Not even necessary. You don't really think you have enough credibility for anyone to believe you, do you? It's all in the sig. -- +-------------------+ .:\:\:/:/:. | PLEASE DO NOT F :.:\:\:/:/:.: | FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=: | | '=(\ 9 9 /)=' | Thank you, | ( (_) ) | Management | /`-vvv-'\ +-------------------+ / \ | | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \ | | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\ @x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW \||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__ \||/ | | | jgs (______Y______) /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ ================================================== ============ fix (vb.): 1. to paper over, obscure, hide from public view; 2. to work around, in a way that produces unintended consequences that are worse than the original problem. Usage: "Windows ME fixes many of the shortcomings of Windows 98 SE". - Hutchison |
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:10:05 GMT, "Fishface"
? wrote: The only way to directly combat the sluggishness of the CD or other slow storage is to use faster storage. "Sometimes" the file format can matter, some types of multimedia for example has shell support for determining resolutions and other parameters read from the file, in which case if you don't need these additional details you can look into disabling the shell support for the features you don't need, then the files will be treated as generic files with no special abilities, beyond those of the application used to actually open them in the traditional manner. Oh, I'd like to do that. I Tried to fine out how, once, but could not. It depends on the files, but to get an idea, look at what shows up as additional information in the folder view, columns available (you may need to customize the view columns to see them all but the info is still extracted either way), and right-click on the files to see the context menu, and IF you are often looking at file properties, also go into those and look at any further info provided beyond the basics on every file (General and version tabs). Sometimes a video driver adds things, other times a video or audio player. You'll have to investigate those on a case-by-case basis. Other things directly added by Windows can be disabled on a item-by-item basic, for example video file info extraction, http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/1209/ A more generic approach would be to look at several at once and disable anything you don't know you need, re-enabling items again if you loose some important functionality, though if you're going to do this wide-scale and on items with functions you can't determine as "safe" to disable, it would be prudent to first make a backup of the OS partition, registry, or whatever method you felt most comfortable or able to restore should you run into problems.... though with the following utility example, anything you disable can be re-enabled simply by running the program again. http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shexview.html While these examples will help with files the OS is treating specially, and possibly dramatically increase the responsiveness of a CDR with video files on it (for example), it still won't do anything about speeding up the slow drives themselves. If you find you are frequently accessing certain slow volumes you might consider putting them on a HDD instead. Sometimes just copying off files is enough, though other times you may need to rip an ISO and use a disc emulator program such as Alcohol 120% or Daemon Tools. These topics are beyond the scope of a usenet post and Google searches should help to do that. |
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That's what happened with XP. In the beginning nobody wanted it. Now how many Windows users would be without it? I remember when Win95 came out. There were a lot of people who thought it was crap and said they were going back to Win 3.1. I wouder how many of them are still using Win 3.1? |
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"altcomphardware" wrote in message ups.com... Merrill P. L. Worthington wrote: Being an average computer user and not a heavy gamer (only MS Flight Sim 2004 and soon X-Plane), will I be able to notice much of a difference between my current Athlon 64 3700 (1gb CAS2 RAM) and 3800 machines (2gb CAS2 RAM)? I agree with Kony that most users don't benefit from cutting edge CPUs these days. I'm not trying to brag or anything, but I have access to the following computers: 1) 200 Dual core Intel Xeon 3.6GHz 2) 180 Quad core Intel Xeons (not sure about these specs yet) 3) SGI Altix 4) Pentium 4 2.5GHz (1) - (4) are part of my university's cluster, which will be upgraded with 1600 new nodes soon. 5) AMD64 754-pin 3400+ 6) AMD XP 2500+ (temporarily offline due to CPU malfunction) 7) Intel D 805 2x3.33GHz 8) Pentium 4 1.7GHz 9) Pentium 3 866MHz (5) is my work PC at college and (6) - (9) are part of my home parallel cluster. No wonder college tuition is so high! What are the disposition plans for the "old" PC's? |
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:25:34 -0700, "Kent_Diego"
wrote: ..... That's what happened with XP. In the beginning nobody wanted it. Now how many Windows users would be without it? I remember when Win95 came out. There were a lot of people who thought it was crap and said they were going back to Win 3.1. I wouder how many of them are still using Win 3.1? Obviously we're in a different situation today, the number of Win98 and Win2K systems combined still running today, exceeds WinXP systems. |
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kony wrote:
"Kent_Diego" wrote: ..... That's what happened with XP. In the beginning nobody wanted it. Now how many Windows users would be without it? I remember when Win95 came out. There were a lot of people who thought it was crap and said they were going back to Win 3.1. I wouder how many of them are still using Win 3.1? Obviously we're in a different situation today, the number of Win98 and Win2K systems combined still running today, exceeds WinXP systems. That is affected, IMNSHO, by the foul EULA and excessive hardware requirements of XP (and W2K when upgraded). For most purposes anything past W98 is foolish, with Linux available in various incarnations. -- Chuck F ) ) Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems. http://cbfalconer.home.att.net USE maineline address! |
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General Schvantzkoph wrote:
I was also wondering when I might see benefit from the dual core. I get annoying waits when I insert a CD and when I click on a floppy in Windows Explorer (the system tries to extract an icon from every single file). I guess it's mostly device drivers tying up the system for me. Hate that... How much RAM do you have in your system? I'm guessing not enough. Add a gigabyte an I bet you'll see a huge improvement. Sorry, I beg to differ. I have 2GB in dual channel in this machine and it still locks up for 5 to 10 seconds when I insert an optical disc. Same with every machine I've ever seen running XP. -- Shaun. |
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Merrill
I went from an Athlon 2200+ to a 3800+ dual core AM2 socket last week...I consider myself an average user only using the internet to download music, search DIY projects for the new house and eBay, not much gaming only unreal tornament 2004 and age of empires and I havent really noticed the difference from an A scoket jumping to the latest AM2 socket. Should personal applications arise your 3700+ should be able to perform different needs be it an interest in photos or movies, may I suggest you may find more benefit in upgrading your graphics card to make more of a difference in your gaming, eBay is not always the best for price points check out the specials at the likes of MSY.com.au Hope this helps but I feel you wont notice the difference between the 3700 and the dual core 3800. Merrill P. L. Worthington wrote: Being an average computer user and not a heavy gamer (only MS Flight Sim 2004 and soon X-Plane), will I be able to notice much of a difference between my current Athlon 64 3700 (1gb CAS2 RAM) and 3800 machines (2gb CAS2 RAM)? |
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Win98 is fine if your using older hardware, but from my experience of using
every operating system and changing some of my hardware yearly, WinXp is certainly the best operating system to date. People would never be able to create dvd quality video without it. The only time I've ever had problems was with older/bad written drivers. The only way to find out which drivers are best is to try them out. When I installed XP MCE, it took me a week to find out the best hardware/software combination that worked best. And this time with the hardware and software I use, its the latest drivers and software from ati, msi and creative(6.18 drivers and 9.15 MMC(mmc is crap but MCE uses tuners great.). With my 9600, it was 5.10 and 9.04mmc that would only work well with XP Pro. I agree with the statement that its the wrong or not the latest drivers installed that cause crashes( mostly). What also seems to help is setting your "virtual memory" to work in a different hard drive that isn't used during gaming or other intensive tasks(preferably a high quality sata drive. I'm getting sick of IDE. Trick from Max PC or CPU mag). I set my virt mem to 0 on my C drive and then right after a fresh format, alocated 4092mb in my secondary 320 gig drive.(R click My computer, Advanced, Performance Settings, Advanced, Virtual Memory-Change). For C drive set "No Paging File" and press "Set". Then click on your secondary drive and click "custom size". I have my mins and max at 4092.(press set) Careful. If you don't have 512mb ram or higher, might screw your computer and have to reformat. If this is not done on a fresh formatted HD, the virtual memory will work further to the back of your hard drive, instead of right at the front.(slower response) -- Love and Teach, Not Yell and Beat Stop Violence and Child Abuse. Friends don't turn friends on to drugs. The path often thought about and sometimes chosen by abused children as adults is Suicide. Be a real friend. A64 3500+, Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939,AIW 9800 128mb MSI 550 Pro, X-Fi,Pioneer 110D, 111D, Liteon 1693 Antec 550 watt,Thermaltake Lanfire,2 Gb Dual Channel OCZ 2XSATA 320gb Raid Edition, PATA 120Gb XP Media Centre Edition 2005 19 in Viewsonic A91f+,BenchMark 2001 SE- 19074 Games I'm Playing- Falcon 4, SP:WAW "kony" wrote in message news On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:25:34 -0700, "Kent_Diego" wrote: ..... That's what happened with XP. In the beginning nobody wanted it. Now how many Windows users would be without it? I remember when Win95 came out. There were a lot of people who thought it was crap and said they were going back to Win 3.1. I wouder how many of them are still using Win 3.1? Obviously we're in a different situation today, the number of Win98 and Win2K systems combined still running today, exceeds WinXP systems. |
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