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  #11  
Old June 21st 10, 06:16 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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Default Bare Drive vs. clothed?


Western Digital drives are warranteed directly by them. If
you have a problem with a WD drive, you go to their website
and get an RMA number. You send the drive to them, and
when they confirm it's defective, they send you a new, or
refurbed drive.


I've done that with a new Caviar Blue that didn't fully pass the
self-test. Got a perfect refurb pretty quickly. It really has an old
number on it!
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  #12  
Old June 21st 10, 07:13 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Rod Speed
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Default Bare Drive vs. clothed?

GMAN wrote
Rod Speed wrote
GMAN wrote
JimR wrote


What is the difference between a bare drive vs. one
that appears to be in consumer packaging? Is it just the
packaging. For 5 bux difference, I can skip the glossy box.


Alot of times the bare drive only has a warranty thru who sold it to you.


Hardly ever, actually.


Exactly, many require you to buy a stupid warranty to cover the drive if at all.


Hardly any do, actually. Newegg certainly doesnt.

That is what this reseller does. He is a cheap ass ripoff artist
http://www.ebccomputers.com/


Then deal with someone else, stupid.

In other words, if it was a bare drive meant to be installed in dell computers or a
manufacturer, and you buy that drive from some street vender or strip mall store,


you might be out of luck if they go out of business or dont backup their drives.


And that hardly ever is the case.


The reseller is under no requirement by say Seagate to
cover the drives that were meant to be sold only to rebuilders.


That isnt the case with bare drives.

I had a 750GB Seagate drive go south and EBC computers in
Salt Lake City would not replace it, And seagate said it wouldnt
either due to it being a reseller drive, and not retail packaged.


And you were stupid enough to not use the small claims court to **** over EBC.

And stupid enough to buy a Seagate drive when they have the stupid approach too.

All of Samsung, WD, Hitachi etc etc etc will replace the drive if its failed in warranty.

If you buy a retail package drive , you get the full warranty of the manufacturer.


You do with bare drives most of the time too.


Bull **** look at seagates own FAQ at the URL below for the proof.


Thats just ONE manfacturer. Have a look at the others, they dont say that.

Most drive manufacturers will not honor the warranty unless it was a built for retail drive.


That is a pig ignorant lie. You wont be able to cite anyone else with that stupid requirement.

You must in this situation return the drive thru the small reseller you bought it from.


Wrong with Samsung, WD, Hitachi etc etc etc

Most the time these bare drives in static bags were
meant for system integrators to build into their pc systems


Wrong, as always.

and as such have no warranty thru Seagate to the end home customer.


Then dont buy a seagate drive, stupid.

http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/cr...DocId=202271#6


Q. Why do I have to go back to my place of purchase
to return a drive that was sold as a system component?


A bare drive was NOT sold as a system component.
Those are drives that come with a system you buy.

A. Seagate sells many drives to direct customers who use them as a
computer system component. In these cases, the Limited Warranty only
extends to Seagate's direct customers and is not assignable or transferable.


Then dont buy a seagate drive.

See AnswerID: 169851 for more information.


http://support.wdc.com/warranty/poli...pe=res&lang=en


Warranty Policy and Limitations


No limited warranty is provided by WD unless your WD Product ("Product")
was purchased from an authorized distributor or authorized reseller.


Thats not legal in my country.

Distributors may sell Products to resellers who then sell Products to end users.
Please see below for warranty information or obtaining service. No warranty
service is provided unless the Product is returned to an authorized return
center in the region (warranty regions are identified as Canada, U.S.A., Latin
America, Europe, Middle East, Africa, Asia Pacific, India and Thailand) where
the Product was first shipped by WD, which may have regional specific
warranty implications.


Yeah, like in Australia that is legally null and void.

If your Product was purchased as a component integrated within a system by a
system manufacturer, no limited warranty is provided by WD. Please contact the
place of purchase or the system manufacturer directly for warranty service.



  #13  
Old June 21st 10, 11:34 PM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
GMAN[_13_]
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Default Bare Drive vs. clothed?

In article , "Rod Speed" wrote:
GMAN wrote
Rod Speed wrote
GMAN wrote
JimR wrote


What is the difference between a bare drive vs. one
that appears to be in consumer packaging? Is it just the
packaging. For 5 bux difference, I can skip the glossy box.


Alot of times the bare drive only has a warranty thru who sold it to you.


Hardly ever, actually.


Exactly, many require you to buy a stupid warranty to cover the drive if at

all.

Hardly any do, actually. Newegg certainly doesnt.

That is what this reseller does. He is a cheap ass ripoff artist
http://www.ebccomputers.com/


Then deal with someone else, stupid.

In other words, if it was a bare drive meant to be installed in dell

computers or a
manufacturer, and you buy that drive from some street vender or strip mall

store,

you might be out of luck if they go out of business or dont backup their

drives.

And that hardly ever is the case.


The reseller is under no requirement by say Seagate to
cover the drives that were meant to be sold only to rebuilders.


That isnt the case with bare drives.

I had a 750GB Seagate drive go south and EBC computers in
Salt Lake City would not replace it, And seagate said it wouldnt
either due to it being a reseller drive, and not retail packaged.


And you were stupid enough to not use the small claims court to **** over EBC.

And stupid enough to buy a Seagate drive when they have the stupid approach
too.

All of Samsung, WD, Hitachi etc etc etc will replace the drive if its failed in
warranty.


Not if the drive was meant to be sold to manufacturers who build systems. Try
taking a drive out of a name brand computer and type in tghe numbers in the
online WD website and see what it tells you. it "WILL" tell you to deal with
the PC manufacturer.

What my point i am trying to get across is, many of these small resellers are
selling you drives that were not meant for direct end user purchase. These
drives carry NO warranty whatsoever directly between the end user and say WD,
Samsung etc and the WILL NOT cover the warranty if you buy such a drive.


endlessly spewing here that it is not the case is just making you sound like
you are too ****ing lazy to verify this yourself with WD.




If you buy a retail package drive , you get the full warranty of the

manufacturer.

You do with bare drives most of the time too.


NO you don't. Not if they are not retail opackaged and are meant for sale to
rebuilders only.


Bull **** look at seagates own FAQ at the URL below for the proof.


Thats just ONE manfacturer. Have a look at the others, they dont say that.

Most drive manufacturers will not honor the warranty unless it was a built

for retail drive.

That is a pig ignorant lie. You wont be able to cite anyone else with that
stupid requirement.


Right on the label of my 750GB Seagate drive, it states


"This drive is manufactured by Seagate for
OEM distribution. For product information
or technical support, please contact your
system OEM."


You must in this situation return the drive thru the small reseller you

bought it from.

Wrong with Samsung, WD, Hitachi etc etc etc

Most the time these bare drives in static bags were
meant for system integrators to build into their pc systems


Wrong, as always.


**** you as always.


and as such have no warranty thru Seagate to the end home customer.


Then dont buy a seagate drive, stupid.

http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/cr...DocId=202271#6


Q. Why do I have to go back to my place of purchase
to return a drive that was sold as a system component?


A bare drive was NOT sold as a system component.
Those are drives that come with a system you buy.

A. Seagate sells many drives to direct customers who use them as a
computer system component. In these cases, the Limited Warranty only
extends to Seagate's direct customers and is not assignable or transferable.


Then dont buy a seagate drive.

See AnswerID: 169851 for more information.


http://support.wdc.com/warranty/poli...pe=res&lang=en


Warranty Policy and Limitations


No limited warranty is provided by WD unless your WD Product ("Product")
was purchased from an authorized distributor or authorized reseller.


Thats not legal in my country.

Distributors may sell Products to resellers who then sell Products to end

users.
Please see below for warranty information or obtaining service. No warranty
service is provided unless the Product is returned to an authorized return
center in the region (warranty regions are identified as Canada, U.S.A.,

Latin
America, Europe, Middle East, Africa, Asia Pacific, India and Thailand) where
the Product was first shipped by WD, which may have regional specific
warranty implications.


Yeah, like in Australia that is legally null and void.


If your Product was purchased as a component integrated within a system by a
system manufacturer, no limited warranty is provided by WD. Please contact

the
place of purchase or the system manufacturer directly for warranty service.



  #14  
Old June 22nd 10, 12:11 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Ed Light
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Default Bare Drive vs. clothed?

GMAN,

Nearly everyone has Roddy filtered out. It's a great group without him.
Gosh knows what rot he's been saying.
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  #15  
Old June 22nd 10, 03:47 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
Rod Speed
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Default Bare Drive vs. clothed?

GMAN wrote
Rod Speed wrote
GMAN wrote
Rod Speed wrote
GMAN wrote
JimR wrote


What is the difference between a bare drive vs. one
that appears to be in consumer packaging? Is it just the
packaging. For 5 bux difference, I can skip the glossy box.


Alot of times the bare drive only has a warranty thru who sold it to you.


Hardly ever, actually.


Exactly, many require you to buy a stupid warranty to cover the drive if at all.


Hardly any do, actually. Newegg certainly doesnt.


That is what this reseller does. He is a cheap ass ripoff artist
http://www.ebccomputers.com/


Then deal with someone else, stupid.


In other words, if it was a bare drive meant to be installed in dell computers or a
manufacturer, and you buy that drive from some street vender or strip mall store,


you might be out of luck if they go out of business or dont backup their drives.


And that hardly ever is the case.


The reseller is under no requirement by say Seagate to
cover the drives that were meant to be sold only to rebuilders.


That isnt the case with bare drives.


I had a 750GB Seagate drive go south and EBC computers in
Salt Lake City would not replace it, And seagate said it wouldnt
either due to it being a reseller drive, and not retail packaged.


And you were stupid enough to not use the small claims court to **** over EBC.


And stupid enough to buy a Seagate drive when they have the stupid approach too.


All of Samsung, WD, Hitachi etc etc etc will replace the drive if its failed in warranty.


Not if the drive was meant to be sold to manufacturers who build systems.


The original says nothing iike that, fool.

Try taking a drive out of a name brand computer


The original says nothing iike that, fool.

and type in tghe numbers in the online WD website and see what
it tells you. it "WILL" tell you to deal with the PC manufacturer.


The original says nothing iike that, fool.

What my point i am trying to get across is, many of these small resellers
are selling you drives that were not meant for direct end user purchase.


You're wrong, as always.

These drives carry NO warranty whatsoever directly between the end user and say
WD, Samsung etc and the WILL NOT cover the warranty if you buy such a drive.


You're wrong, as always.

endlessly spewing here that it is not the case is just making you
sound like you are too ****ing lazy to verify this yourself with WD.


The original says nothing like a drive being taken out of an existing system, fool.

If you buy a retail package drive , you get the full warranty of the manufacturer.


You do with bare drives most of the time too.


NO you don't.


Yes you do. Look at the newegg site, fool.

Not if they are not retail opackaged


Yes you do. Look at the newegg site, fool.

and are meant for sale to rebuilders only.


Nothing like that is being discussed, fool.

Bull **** look at seagates own FAQ at the URL below for the proof.


Thats just ONE manfacturer. Have a look at the others, they dont say that.


Most drive manufacturers will not honor the warranty unless it was a built for retail drive.


That is a pig ignorant lie. You wont be able to cite anyone else with that stupid requirement.


Right on the label of my 750GB Seagate drive, it states


Thats not SOMEONE ELSE, fool.

"This drive is manufactured by Seagate for OEM distribution. For product
information or technical support, please contact your system OEM."


And NOT ONE of the bare drives I have bought says anything like that, fool.

You must in this situation return the drive thru the small reseller you bought it from.


Wrong with Samsung, WD, Hitachi etc etc etc


Most the time these bare drives in static bags were
meant for system integrators to build into their pc systems


Wrong, as always.


**** you as always.


You never ever could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag.

and as such have no warranty thru Seagate to the end home customer.


Then dont buy a seagate drive, stupid.


http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/cr...DocId=202271#6


Q. Why do I have to go back to my place of purchase
to return a drive that was sold as a system component?


A bare drive was NOT sold as a system component.
Those are drives that come with a system you buy.


A. Seagate sells many drives to direct customers who use them as a
computer system component. In these cases, the Limited Warranty only
extends to Seagate's direct customers and is not assignable or transferable.


Then dont buy a seagate drive.


I dont buy them anyway, they are made in china, ****wit.

See AnswerID: 169851 for more information.


http://support.wdc.com/warranty/poli...pe=res&lang=en


Warranty Policy and Limitations


No limited warranty is provided by WD unless your WD Product ("Product")
was purchased from an authorized distributor or authorized reseller.


Thats not legal in my country.


Distributors may sell Products to resellers who then sell Products to end users.


Please see below for warranty information or obtaining service. No
warranty service is provided unless the Product is returned to an
authorized return center in the region (warranty regions are
identified as Canada, U.S.A., Latin
America, Europe, Middle East, Africa, Asia Pacific, India and
Thailand) where the Product was first shipped by WD, which may have
regional specific warranty implications.


Yeah, like in Australia that is legally null and void.


If your Product was purchased as a component integrated
within a system by a system manufacturer,


That aint what was being discussed, ****wit.

no limited warranty is provided by WD. Please contact the place of
purchase or the system manufacturer directly for warranty service.



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Old June 22nd 10, 03:48 AM posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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Ed Light wrote

Nearly everyone has Roddy filtered out.


How odd that so many reply to my posts, you stupid lying ****wit.


 




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