Help: Windows XP Spontanous shutdown

On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 18:40:16 GMT,
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In calgary.general An Unexploded Scotsman wrote:

Don't suppose you have "agp fast-write" (or something like that..can't
check via terminal server as it's grayed out) checked under ATI's
crazy control panel? That caused me some serious system stability
issues and no performance increase.

I unchecked it yesterday, and have enjoyed 24 crash-free hours.

I had a suspicion it was video-card related... Will post again in a few
days to update.

Another thing that helps if that doesn't cure it 100% (I think it
likely will, baring no other issues) is to bump up your agp voltage
slightly. The keyword being slightly.

I was *very* close to driving to to ATI's head office and doing
terrible things to them when I first picked up my AIW 9800 Pro.
Great card, if you don't kill anyone during the first 48hrs of
ownership. The remote's nice too.

Call me picky, but if you drop $500+ bucks on a video card it should
just work without having to lean what how to make it happy.

On a more positive note, http://www.tigerdirect.com/ has that sweet
rebate deal on again for 200GB hd's. I'm closing in on a terrabyte.

God, help me, I should have stuck with the laptop and been forced to
stay productive. *g*

in article Dqowc.9677$B%4.1358@clgrps12,
at wrote on 6/5/04 11:38 AM:

In calgary.general catchmerevisited wrote:

Video card . The same happened to me with an ATI all-in-one-wonder until I
updated the driver .
Good luck .


if that's the case, download from http://www.ati.com

Is that where I get ati drivers from?
yep.

Well, I believe I've finall found the problem: Hot processor.

I determined this by noticing that the powerdowns happened primarily during
processor-intensive activities, such as unpacking a rarball. I was able
to reproduce spontaneous shutdown four times by unpacking a rarball.

It also appears that my proc temp is being mis-reported by "AsusProbe",
which is reporting the SOCKET temperature, not the DIODE temperature.
Diode temperature for the CPU is a steady 77.

I was able to determine this by installing Mother Board Monitor 5, which
gave far higher temperature readings for my CPU. At first, I thought it
may have been a bad-seating of the heatsink on the CPU, but touching the
heatsink, it is BLAZING hot... Thus, suggesting that it is conducting
properly. My processor (Barton 2500) is not overclocked

I've worked around the situation by underclocking my CPU. I'm now running
at a FSB of 100, instead of 166, which seems to be allowing my system to run
stable.

I still don't understand why my proc is suddenly generating so much heat.
My ambient temp is no hotter than usual (25C), nor have I made any changes
to the comp.

Anyhow, it's working, and I really don't notice the difference in speed...
Although there are still unsolved Q's, it's good enough for me.



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W32MyDoom can cause random shut downs.
Whitelightning

Ok....

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W32MyDoom can cause random shut downs.
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wrote in message news:MI9xc.35270$DV4.3536@clgrps13...
Well, I believe I've finall found the problem: Hot processor.

I determined this by noticing that the powerdowns happened primarily during
processor-intensive activities, such as unpacking a rarball. I was able
to reproduce spontaneous shutdown four times by unpacking a rarball.

It also appears that my proc temp is being mis-reported by "AsusProbe",
which is reporting the SOCKET temperature, not the DIODE temperature.
Diode temperature for the CPU is a steady 77.

I was able to determine this by installing Mother Board Monitor 5, which
gave far higher temperature readings for my CPU. At first, I thought it
may have been a bad-seating of the heatsink on the CPU, but touching the
heatsink, it is BLAZING hot... Thus, suggesting that it is conducting
properly. My processor (Barton 2500) is not overclocked

I've worked around the situation by underclocking my CPU. I'm now running
at a FSB of 100, instead of 166, which seems to be allowing my system to run
stable.

I still don't understand why my proc is suddenly generating so much heat.
My ambient temp is no hotter than usual (25C), nor have I made any changes
to the comp.

Anyhow, it's working, and I really don't notice the difference in speed...
Although there are still unsolved Q's, it's good enough for me.



--
.................................................. ...........................

"Forced counseling and "sensitivity training" are nothing more than
buzzwords for political re-education"
-Letter in NY Times, Feb 2, 2000

.................................................. ...........................
http://www.memeticcandiru.com

I had a similar problem in the past, here's what I did:

Remove the power supply and cut a hole in the bottom (the side that
faces toward the floor). Install a fan to suck air from the case and
blow it into the power supply and eventually through the other fan and
out the back of the case. Then I covered the existing vent holes with
duct tape (yes... tape). In my case the new fan is right above the CPU
so it moves a ****load of air over the heatsink. just a thought...

You might also consider a better heatsink?
Reseat the processor and re-install the heatsink with new CPU grease?

wrote in message news:MI9xc.35270$DV4.3536@clgrps13...
Well, I believe I've finall found the problem: Hot processor.

I determined this by noticing that the powerdowns happened primarily during
processor-intensive activities, such as unpacking a rarball. I was able
to reproduce spontaneous shutdown four times by unpacking a rarball.

It also appears that my proc temp is being mis-reported by "AsusProbe",
which is reporting the SOCKET temperature, not the DIODE temperature.
Diode temperature for the CPU is a steady 77.

I was able to determine this by installing Mother Board Monitor 5, which
gave far higher temperature readings for my CPU. At first, I thought it
may have been a bad-seating of the heatsink on the CPU, but touching the
heatsink, it is BLAZING hot... Thus, suggesting that it is conducting
properly. My processor (Barton 2500) is not overclocked

I've worked around the situation by underclocking my CPU. I'm now running
at a FSB of 100, instead of 166, which seems to be allowing my system to run
stable.

I still don't understand why my proc is suddenly generating so much heat.
My ambient temp is no hotter than usual (25C), nor have I made any changes
to the comp.

Anyhow, it's working, and I really don't notice the difference in speed...
Although there are still unsolved Q's, it's good enough for me.



--
.................................................. ...........................

"Forced counseling and "sensitivity training" are nothing more than
buzzwords for political re-education"
-Letter in NY Times, Feb 2, 2000

.................................................. ...........................
http://www.memeticcandiru.com

Sorry... I should clarify that I covered the vent holes in the power
supply only, not the whole case

On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 02:42:52 GMT,
wrote:

Well, I believe I've finall found the problem: Hot processor.

I determined this by noticing that the powerdowns happened primarily during
processor-intensive activities, such as unpacking a rarball. I was able
to reproduce spontaneous shutdown four times by unpacking a rarball.

It also appears that my proc temp is being mis-reported by "AsusProbe",
which is reporting the SOCKET temperature, not the DIODE temperature.
Diode temperature for the CPU is a steady 77.

I was able to determine this by installing Mother Board Monitor 5, which
gave far higher temperature readings for my CPU. At first, I thought it
may have been a bad-seating of the heatsink on the CPU, but touching the
heatsink, it is BLAZING hot... Thus, suggesting that it is conducting
properly. My processor (Barton 2500) is not overclocked

I've worked around the situation by underclocking my CPU. I'm now running
at a FSB of 100, instead of 166, which seems to be allowing my system to run
stable.

I still don't understand why my proc is suddenly generating so much heat.
My ambient temp is no hotter than usual (25C), nor have I made any changes
to the comp.

Anyhow, it's working, and I really don't notice the difference in speed...
Although there are still unsolved Q's, it's good enough for me.

You're 100% sure your voltage is set to whatever a Barton 2500 wants?
If you decide to go for a replacement heatsink, I'm a big fan of
Zalman's stuff. I'm running a 2.4gHz P4 @ 3.5gHz and it's not much
warmer than it was before the overclock with a stock Intel heatsink.

http://www.zalmanusa.com/

Granted it's the size of a small toaster, but it does a nice job.
Very quiet too.