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Two different specs for same model number, what's going on here ?



 
 
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Old December 10th 18, 11:01 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
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Default Two different specs for same model number, what's going on here ?

Two different specs for same E-VGA GT 1030 low profile, passive card:

https://s.eet.eu/icmedia/mmo_3725334..._1431_5986.pdf

vs

https://www.evga.com/Products/Specs/...F-07065ACF1BF1

First one states "dual-link dvi"

Second one "official" one states "single-link dvi"

Plus some other features are different.

So what is going on here ?

Is somebody intentionally spreading miss-information ?

Or does E-VGA not known their own products and somebody decided to correct/update the info ?!?!?

Max resolution kinda also different.

I have come across so much conflicting information, it's insane.

1920x1200 vs 1920x1080, single vs dual link.

Fake screenshots.

Asus for example has a fake picture showing a dual-link dvi connector, notice carefully how the heatsink is not matching.

https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/...G-BRK/gallery/

Picture 3 is clearly fake.

Compare this to the old card I have GT 520:

https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/...GD3LP/gallery/

The heatsink is missing but at least the connectors are genuine.

Conclusion, the third picture is delibrately faked to try and make people believe it's dual-link dvi, while in reality it's probably single-link dvi.

Anyway time for some confirmation from youtube, which is pretty insane:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PplTpoj5fxU

There is actually a cap over this connector ? WTF ?! Thankfully the guy removes it... and it does look like a dual-link dvi-d connector ? HUH ?

At least E-VGA has a bit more honest screenshots:

https://www.evga.com/products/produc...02G-P4-6332-KR

Now you know why "unboxing videos" exists.

If you ever do an unboxing video of any electronics, make sure to show the product from all 6 sides, and nice zoom in's and close ups from all 6 sides =D

E-VGA GT 1030 video, shown from all sides:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQcZHPrPbSI

Here a dual-link dvi connector can also be seen.

Now occording to the wikipedia article, single link connectors are supposed to be different, there is suppossed to be a little gap in between, so dual won't fit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface

However by using dual-link connectors, single and dual link connectors will fit as well.

So now here is the question:

If it's so easy to "FAKE" single link into dual link, do you believe the DVI-standard is TOTALLY ****ING RETARDED ?!

If you answered NO, than you a ****ing RETARD LOL.

But here is the real question:

What is the actual thruth about these cards/gpus ?

The nvidia spec says: "standard connectors" single link ?

https://www.geforce.com/hardware/des...specifications

WTF does that mean ? Is that the actual connector on the back of the reference card ? Or is the GPU itself nerfed to single link connector interface ?!?!?

What if graphics card manufacturer replaces standard single link with dual link ?

Will the dual link interface/connector actually work ?!?!?!?!

So which spec is ultimately correct ?!?!?!?!

I will probably use this for a while for 1280x1024 gaming, which it should be fine for that.

Though this confusion about possible dvi-d dual link support is fricking annoying.

Cause I have to choose between

E-VGA and ASUS.

If one of these cards is actually dual-link dvi-d then it would be the better choice...

Though I am not sure if the E-VGA passive heatsink is as good as the ASUS passive heatsink.

Some benchmark/testing of these heatsinks would be cool.

Details...

Bye for now,
Skybuck.
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Old December 11th 18, 12:13 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Paul[_28_]
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Default Two different specs for same model number, what's going on here?

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Two different specs for same E-VGA GT 1030 low profile, passive card:

https://s.eet.eu/icmedia/mmo_3725334..._1431_5986.pdf

vs

https://www.evga.com/Products/Specs/...F-07065ACF1BF1

First one states "dual-link dvi"

Second one "official" one states "single-link dvi"

Plus some other features are different.

So what is going on here ?


This is the spec from the chip maker (Nvidia)

https://www.geforce.com/hardware/des...specifications

DP 1.42
HDMI 2.0b (HDCP 2.2)
Single Link-DVI

PCIe 3.0 ×4 (wikipedia)

And it means there are three card designs possible, times two kinds of RAM.
A card may only have two connectors on the faceplate (but I don't
have proof at the engineering level, only based on the marketplace).

*******

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce...orce-gtx-1050/

DP 1.43
HDMI 2.0b (HDCP 2.2)
Dual Link-DVI === the 1050 has dual link

PCIe 3.0 ×16 (wikipedia)

Supplementary Power Connectors None

I can't find any details on number of connectors. The previous card observations
are based on seeing a "lack of creativity" on the 1030 faceplates. Obviously
shaving a single connector off the faceplate, saves them millions
of dollars /s

There is a Gigabyte 1050 card with five connectors, but only four
can be used at the same time.

http://forum.gigabyte.us/thread/2277...al-gaming-1050

3 HDMI ports, DP and one DVI

It suggests that perhaps, one DVI shares with one HDMI.

Multi-view = 4

And that's a 1050Ti card with 4GB of RAM and a 112 bit wide video memory.

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics...105TWF2-4GD#sp

Dual-link DVI-D *1
HDMI-2.0b *3 (Max Resolution: 4096x2160 @60 Hz)
Display Port-1.4 *1 (Max Resolution: 7680x4320 @60 Hz)

Multi-view 4

So Gigabyte gives away more of the NVidia documentation.
The Multi-view number is important for understanding how
many connectors can be used simultaneously. Nvidia Multiview,
as far as I know, is a rough equivalent to AMD Eyefinity, which
spans three monitors across, in up to two groups, for
a max of six monitors on the dual logical heads on one GPU.

If we had the NVidia internal document, it might show

+------+------+------+ +------+
| Mon1 Mon2 Mon3 | | Mon4 |
+------+------+------+ +------+

as how that Multi-view plays out.

It's possible a Quadro card would be needed, if you wanted better
connector sets (maybe you could get a faceplate with nothing but
miniDP on it).

*******

And you can see here, some poor schmuck tried to connect
a Dual Link monitor to the 1030, and ended up with a
disappointing choice of resolution for the monitor.
So it's Single Link DVI. Running 2560x1440 is about as
far as Dual Link DVI would go if it was available.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/t...-from-gt-1030/

And "where there is a will, there is a way".
Hardware engineer commentator to the rescue :-)

Of course, if you string enough dongles together,
it would be better to buy a different video card.

https://superuser.com/questions/3320...bout-the-price

Paul
 




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