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  #11  
Old December 21st 07, 11:40 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.internet.wireless,comp.hardware,comp.sys.laptops,microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless
~misfit~[_8_]
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Somewhere on teh intarweb "danny burstein" typed:
In m "BillW50"
writes:

The record using a home made directional antenna at a hackers
convention in Las Vegas a couple of years ago was 51 miles. Although
I never learned if they were on top of a mountain or not. I bet they
were.


details: http://www.wifiworldrecord.com/


That's old hat. It was broken in Venezula the next year. The one you linked
to was 200km, the Venezuelan record is 279km using just a pair of Linksys
WRT54G's.

+Update+

That was in '06. I've just Googled the guy who did it (Ermanno Pietrosemoli)
and find that my info is old, his record got broken, so he set a new one in
June this year. 382km, or 238 miles for you late adopters.
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Shaun.

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'blanking', nz.comp, 20 Dec 2007.

"your so predictable misfit"
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  #12  
Old December 21st 07, 01:27 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.internet.wireless,comp.hardware,comp.sys.laptops,microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless
Brian Cryer
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"Neil" wrote in message
. net...
I don't understand. What do you mean??....

"CBFalconer" wrote in message
...


It is conventional in most newsgroups to post your reply at the bottom of
the previous, this is called bottom posting. You have been putting your
reply at the top, which is known as top-posting. Top-posting is the
convention in emails because if you are replying to an email then the
recipient should have a grasp on what went before. When posting to
newsgroups others may not have seen your original post so its useful to have
the previous text available and visible first.
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?snip

Please do not top-post. Your answer belongs after (or intermixed
with) the quoted material to which you reply, after snipping all
irrelevant material. I fixed this one. See the following links:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/ (taming google)
http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/ (newusers)


Sadly, I haven't fixed this one. Its worth having a read of the links that
CBFalconer provided.
--
Brian Cryer
www.cryer.co.uk/brian



  #13  
Old December 21st 07, 01:39 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.internet.wireless,comp.hardware,comp.sys.laptops,microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless
LR
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~misfit~ wrote:
Somewhere on teh intarweb "danny burstein" typed:
In m "BillW50"
writes:

The record using a home made directional antenna at a hackers
convention in Las Vegas a couple of years ago was 51 miles. Although
I never learned if they were on top of a mountain or not. I bet they
were.

details: http://www.wifiworldrecord.com/


That's old hat. It was broken in Venezula the next year. The one you linked
to was 200km, the Venezuelan record is 279km using just a pair of Linksys
WRT54G's.

+Update+

That was in '06. I've just Googled the guy who did it (Ermanno Pietrosemoli)
and find that my info is old, his record got broken, so he set a new one in
June this year. 382km, or 238 miles for you late adopters.


http://www.eslared.org.ve/articulos/...Fi%20Trial.pdf

  #14  
Old December 22nd 07, 05:15 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.internet.wireless,comp.hardware,comp.sys.laptops,microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless
kony
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:08:09 -0600, "Neil"
wrote:

No, the chances of there being another hotspot are very slim, as there's
only a few types of business that have T-Mobile (Starbucks, Kinkos, some
hotels and airports -- that's about it). This wasn't a random hotspot. It
was a T-Mobile hotspot, and there are only a discreet set of them.

As for open ground, though, the place where I was down the street (to the
south) and a little west of where the hotspot was. In between (the northwest
corner of the intersection where I was at) was open. Thus, between me and
the hotspot, there were no buildings. I'm sure that was it.



It is quite possible one of these other businesses had put a
repeater on their roof so they could enjoy using their
account inside without having to pay for on-site service.

The only way you could more reliably know for certain is to
take a wifi locator, signal strength meter back down there
and canvas the area looking for more spots not on maps.

It is certainly possible for signals to go 800 feet outside,
line of sight, but more surprising if you're inside the
sandwich shop, even moreso to maintain connection with a
laptop and do that in a shop where there might be a kitchen
with microwaves.
  #15  
Old December 22nd 07, 03:27 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.internet.wireless,comp.hardware,comp.sys.laptops,microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless
Bill Kearney
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And it's entirely predictable that some ****** will whinge about it.


"Brian Cryer" wrote in message
...
"Neil" wrote in message
. net...
I don't understand. What do you mean??....

"CBFalconer" wrote in message
...


It is conventional in most newsgroups to post your reply at the bottom of
the previous, this is called bottom posting. You have been putting your
reply at the top, which is known as top-posting. Top-posting is the
convention in emails because if you are replying to an email then the
recipient should have a grasp on what went before. When posting to
newsgroups others may not have seen your original post so its useful to
have the previous text available and visible first.
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?snip

Please do not top-post. Your answer belongs after (or intermixed
with) the quoted material to which you reply, after snipping all
irrelevant material. I fixed this one. See the following links:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/ (taming google)
http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/ (newusers)


Sadly, I haven't fixed this one. Its worth having a read of the links that
CBFalconer provided.
--
Brian Cryer
www.cryer.co.uk/brian





  #16  
Old December 22nd 07, 03:28 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.internet.wireless,comp.hardware,comp.sys.laptops,microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless
Bill Kearney
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I then looked up the hotspots in the area, and I saw that the closest one
was a Fed-Ex/Kinkos about 2-3 blocks away.


And how do you know that for sure? It's not all that hard to spoof a
hotspot. Use the same SSID, capture the HTTP traffic and fake the login
handling. Then use the stolen information to hack the real service.


  #17  
Old December 22nd 07, 04:38 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.internet.wireless,comp.hardware,comp.sys.laptops,microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless
BillW50
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In t,
Bill Kearney typed on Sat, 22 Dec 2007 09:28:15 -0500:
I then looked up the hotspots in the area, and I saw that the
closest one was a Fed-Ex/Kinkos about 2-3 blocks away.


And how do you know that for sure? It's not all that hard to spoof a
hotspot. Use the same SSID, capture the HTTP traffic and fake the
login handling. Then use the stolen information to hack the real
service.


You sound like you have lots of experience doing this Bill. And what
reason would that be for?

--
Bill

  #18  
Old December 22nd 07, 04:42 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.internet.wireless,comp.hardware,comp.sys.laptops,microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless
BillW50
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In ,
LR typed on Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:39:37 +0000:
~misfit~ wrote:
Somewhere on teh intarweb "danny burstein" typed:
In m "BillW50"
writes:

The record using a home made directional antenna at a hackers
convention in Las Vegas a couple of years ago was 51 miles.
Although I never learned if they were on top of a mountain or not.
I bet they were.
details: http://www.wifiworldrecord.com/


That's old hat. It was broken in Venezula the next year. The one you
linked to was 200km, the Venezuelan record is 279km using just a
pair of Linksys WRT54G's.

+Update+

That was in '06. I've just Googled the guy who did it (Ermanno
Pietrosemoli) and find that my info is old, his record got broken,
so he set a new one in June this year. 382km, or 238 miles for you
late adopters.



http://www.eslared.org.ve/articulos/...Fi%20Trial.pdf


Amazing! And here I am trying to get my sister on my network just 800
feet away. LOL

--
Bill

  #19  
Old December 22nd 07, 08:49 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.internet.wireless,comp.hardware,comp.sys.laptops,microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless
Curly Bill
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Neil wrote:
So, I was at the local sandwich shop last night, and I noticed I was able to
pick up a signal from a local T-Mobile hotspot, which I have an account
with. It was only one bar out of five. But I was able to connect to it and
surf the web without any problems.

I then looked up the hotspots in the area, and I saw that the closest one
was a Fed-Ex/Kinkos about 2-3 blocks away. Measuring it on the map, I
estimate it to be at least 800 feet from where I was.

Is that normal for wi-fi routers to have such a large range? That seems a
bit far to be picking up a wi-fi signal. The router was a little uphill from
me, though not a very steep hill.



So, Neil
I think you were very successful getting responses for a stupid
question, and stretching it out by your responses.

For a troll you did very well.

I take it you don't have any friends to hang out with during winter
break from school.
  #20  
Old December 22nd 07, 09:29 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.internet.wireless,comp.hardware,comp.sys.laptops,microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless
DTC
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Neil wrote:
Is that normal for wi-fi routers to have such a large range? That
seems a bit far to be picking up a wi-fi signal. The router was a
little uphill from me, though not a very steep hill.


That's certainly a valid question for an inquiring mind.


curly Bill responded with
So, Neil
I think you were very successful getting responses for a stupid
question, and stretching it out by your responses.

For a troll you did very well.


And *I* think that you take perfectly valid questions to be trolling.



 




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