updated Nintendo Wii specs - pinch of salt needed

"Chris F" wrote in message
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On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:30:46 GMT, "Guest" wrote:

This should be a serious let-down to all of you people who tried to defend
Nintendo. Now you know why I had to put them down. Shame on them for
selling an overclocked Gamecube.

yes shame on them for being original.

shame on them for realising that games consoles don;t have to be
purely about how many pixels and polygons they can chuck about, but
can dare to focus on something a lot of devs forget about: gameplay.

damn them to hell!

i really am worried about why you seem to have such a hard-on for
flashy graphics and high resolutions.

maybe you're hoping that the next tomb raider game will be so
detailed, that if you play in HD and look really, really closely you
might, just might, be able to see Lara's camel toe?
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See buddy, the gameplay on the other systems is just fine. If they did not
have great gameplay, they would not have sold. Just because Nintendo
chose(or had no choice) but to focus on a controller does not mean that it
is makes for better gameplay. That has yet to be proven. I doubt that it
could offer BETTER gameplay, maybe just different. That being the case, as
I said before they should have just released a new controller for the GC
instead of trying to sell the GC again. Now I see how Nintendo is so
profitable - always selling the same OLD ****.

"Mantorok" wrote in message
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From what I've gathered the specs aren't going to truly relate what the
Wii can do, from what I've heard they are focusing on getting "more" out
of "less".

The software-architecture is what they are focusing on, probably a very
powerful framework for getting a lot out of the Wii in very little time
and with very little resource needed.

The Wii games will look great, but it's not just that, it'll be the fact
that devs will be able to worry less about the graphics and spend the time
otherwise spent on graphical techniques, on the new controller.

I thought this was quite common knowledge that there approach was towards
the architectual side of the software.....

Kev


I guess that would be the newly revised excuse for the Wii? You know those
sellers in stores love to discourage people from buying certain things. You
can bet that they will tell people it is just a GC in another package.

Guest wrote:

You are just trying to make yourself feel better about that weak system.
You are also assuming that I am a child who gives a **** about a bull****
controller over high powered graphics.


I believe you'll find quite the opposite; he assumes you're a child who
gives a **** about bull**** high powered graphics over a controller. And
who are we to argue?

Sorry, couldn't resist the one.....

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http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/wii/rum...ecs-190815.php
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So according to this, the Wii is just a Gamecube overclocked by 50%
with a new controller? If that's true, then what exactly have IBM and
ATI been working on for the last several years? That could have been
accomplished in a matter of months.

Personally, I think these are in fact the specs for the Wii development
kits, but that the final hardware will be different. Not necessarily a
lot faster, of course. There's only so much you can do with such a
small form factor. The thing is, if these really are the final specs,
it's hard to imagine how ATI and IBM could get such a tiny increase in
performance five years later, especially when the system was already
pretty small to begin with. You'd have to really work at it in order to
not come up with something faster than this. Unless Nintendo is
planning on selling the system for $99 right off the bat, it makes
little sense.


What does make sense is why Nintendo never said a word about it. It is
like being in a locker room and having the smallest Wii Wii. NOW, I
think I know why they call it the Wii! This system is an embarrassment
to videogame systems.

But even tho' small, it seems to be the only one
in the room to know what to do with it...^_^

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Funny, but even that has yet to be proven. All that has happened is that
we have been told it is great because that is all that Nintendo can
promote. They came to the party empty handed.

I've been seeing a lot of developer comments that prove otherwise.
Developers and publishers seem very excited at the idea of having a machine
they can just create games for without having to push the technology
envelope. They also like the idea of inventing new gameplay mechanics that
can't be done with traditional controllers, something they can really focus
on thanks to the fact that the system won't require a huge investment in
graphics R&D. That's already happened with the new Rayman game, where they
are now focusing on the Wii version over the others, because of the
controller.

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"Chris F" wrote in message
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On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:30:46 GMT, "Guest" wrote:

This should be a serious let-down to all of you people who tried to
defend
Nintendo. Now you know why I had to put them down. Shame on them for
selling an overclocked Gamecube.

yes shame on them for being original.

shame on them for realising that games consoles don;t have to be
purely about how many pixels and polygons they can chuck about, but
can dare to focus on something a lot of devs forget about: gameplay.

damn them to hell!

i really am worried about why you seem to have such a hard-on for
flashy graphics and high resolutions.

maybe you're hoping that the next tomb raider game will be so
detailed, that if you play in HD and look really, really closely you
might, just might, be able to see Lara's camel toe?
--

gamertag: Chrisflynnuk
http://live.xbox.com/member/Chrisflynnuk

See buddy, the gameplay on the other systems is just fine. If they did
not have great gameplay, they would not have sold. Just because Nintendo
chose(or had no choice) but to focus on a controller does not mean that it
is makes for better gameplay. That has yet to be proven. I doubt that it
could offer BETTER gameplay, maybe just different. That being the case,
as I said before they should have just released a new controller for the
GC instead of trying to sell the GC again. Now I see how Nintendo is so
profitable - always selling the same OLD ****.

Different is good.

Selling the Gamecube with a new controller add on would be stupid. That
kind of thing just doesn't work. The new console is slick looking, and has
some built in stuff that is very nice (wireless internet & controllers, SD
card interface, Gamecube ports, 24 hour internet connectivity) that will
definitely help to sell it. It's also more powerful than the Gamecube, no
matter how you look at it.

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"Mantorok" wrote in message
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From what I've gathered the specs aren't going to truly relate what the
Wii can do, from what I've heard they are focusing on getting "more" out
of "less".

The software-architecture is what they are focusing on, probably a very
powerful framework for getting a lot out of the Wii in very little time
and with very little resource needed.

The Wii games will look great, but it's not just that, it'll be the fact
that devs will be able to worry less about the graphics and spend the
time otherwise spent on graphical techniques, on the new controller.

I thought this was quite common knowledge that there approach was towards
the architectual side of the software.....

Kev


I guess that would be the newly revised excuse for the Wii? You know
those sellers in stores love to discourage people from buying certain
things. You can bet that they will tell people it is just a GC in another
package.

Right... that's why nobody buys the DS, because retail workers are out there
telling everybody it's just a GBA with two screens.

I think that unlike the Gamecube, the Wii will actually be a popular item
for retailers to push. It's clearly different from the other two consoles,
which is a good thing from the retailer's perspective. It gives them an
opportunity to broaden the overall market they reach with their game
consoles and games.

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Guest wrote:

You are just trying to make yourself feel better about that weak system.
You are also assuming that I am a child who gives a **** about a bull****
controller over high powered graphics.

I believe you'll find quite the opposite; he assumes you're a child who
gives a **** about bull**** high powered graphics over a controller. And
who are we to argue?

Sorry, couldn't resist the one.....


You should have....

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"Mantorok" wrote in message
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From what I've gathered the specs aren't going to truly relate what the
Wii can do, from what I've heard they are focusing on getting "more" out
of "less".

The software-architecture is what they are focusing on, probably a very
powerful framework for getting a lot out of the Wii in very little time
and with very little resource needed.

The Wii games will look great, but it's not just that, it'll be the fact
that devs will be able to worry less about the graphics and spend the
time otherwise spent on graphical techniques, on the new controller.

I thought this was quite common knowledge that there approach was
towards the architectual side of the software.....

Kev


I guess that would be the newly revised excuse for the Wii? You know
those sellers in stores love to discourage people from buying certain
things. You can bet that they will tell people it is just a GC in
another package.

Right... that's why nobody buys the DS, because retail workers are out
there telling everybody it's just a GBA with two screens.

I think that unlike the Gamecube, the Wii will actually be a popular item
for retailers to push. It's clearly different from the other two
consoles, which is a good thing from the retailer's perspective. It gives
them an opportunity to broaden the overall market they reach with their
game consoles and games.


What ever you say. You come with excuse after excuse. What will your
excuse be if the Wii flops?

On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:23:25 GMT, "Guest" wrote:


I think that unlike the Gamecube, the Wii will actually be a popular item
for retailers to push. It's clearly different from the other two
consoles, which is a good thing from the retailer's perspective. It gives
them an opportunity to broaden the overall market they reach with their
game consoles and games.


What ever you say. You come with excuse after excuse. What will your
excuse be if the Wii flops?

and what will you have to say if it doesn't?


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"Mantorok" wrote in message
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From what I've gathered the specs aren't going to truly relate what the
Wii can do, from what I've heard they are focusing on getting "more"
out of "less".

The software-architecture is what they are focusing on, probably a very
powerful framework for getting a lot out of the Wii in very little time
and with very little resource needed.

The Wii games will look great, but it's not just that, it'll be the
fact that devs will be able to worry less about the graphics and spend
the time otherwise spent on graphical techniques, on the new
controller.

I thought this was quite common knowledge that there approach was
towards the architectual side of the software.....

Kev


I guess that would be the newly revised excuse for the Wii? You know
those sellers in stores love to discourage people from buying certain
things. You can bet that they will tell people it is just a GC in
another package.

Right... that's why nobody buys the DS, because retail workers are out
there telling everybody it's just a GBA with two screens.

I think that unlike the Gamecube, the Wii will actually be a popular item
for retailers to push. It's clearly different from the other two
consoles, which is a good thing from the retailer's perspective. It
gives them an opportunity to broaden the overall market they reach with
their game consoles and games.


What ever you say. You come with excuse after excuse. What will your
excuse be if the Wii flops?

What would anybody need excuses for? Either Nintendo's new direction in
consoles works, or it doesn't. At this point if it flops it will be because
Nintendo was wrong about what people want. If it succeeds then it proves
that they were right. About the only thing left to possibly screw up is the
price or the advertising, but I think they'll be OK there. It should be
inexpensive enough for anybody to buy, and if their ad campaign is as good
as it has been with the DS they'll be in good shape. I don't like the name
and I think it was a big mistake, at least for the NA/UK market, but it can
definitely be overcome if they do everything else right.