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George Macdonald wrote:
On 25 Jul 2005 14:36:37 -0700, "Robert Myers" wrote: George Macdonald wrote: On 25 Jul 2005 07:58:49 -0700, "Robert Myers" wrote: George Macdonald wrote: On 24 Jul 2005 05:51:21 -0700, "Robert Myers" wrote: Intel marketing has been a driver for turning computers into commodities. They understand what it takes to get vendors to move merchandise, and they do it. AMD wants to argue that Intel's aggressiveness was aimed at eliminating AMD as a competitor. Intel will argue that its aggressivenss has been aimed at increasing sales and nothing else. Bribing retailers, with whom they have no direct supplier/customer relationship, and "stealing" AMD systems off their promotional floor space is more than aggressive. It's depriving the public of a choice - I don't think most people will be too pleased at those revelation. Hi-jacking industry standards groups and blocking membership is sure to make those admitted wonder when it might be their turn. Intel throws it weight around. The most powerful player always does. France is fond of berating the US for the way it throws its weight around in international forums, but when France was the dominant player in world affairs, it played the game of diplomacy in exactly the same way. sigh For the umpteenth time, the question the court must answer is if it's more than throwing "weight" around. Ford, GM and even Chrysler at one time, throw their weight around. You threw in an issue (participation in industry standards groups) that has nothing to do with the court case. I responded with an observation about the universality of the behavior you are objecting to. Now you say that whether the behavior is universal or not has nothing to do with the court case... but then, neither did the issue you brought up in the first place. It's in the complaint. Obviously you have not read it and *obviously* I reject your claim of universality... can you not read? Run around in circular arguments if you want - it won't help. This is tiresome, especially with your incessant self-righteous hostility and demeaning language, but I'm going to stay at it. *You* made a comment about how players in the industry would react to Intel's behavior in industry standard groups. How industry players will react will not be settled by a judge or a jury, and it doesn't matter whether Intel's behavior is in the complaint or not. One way of predicting how they will react is to look at how human behavior goes in similar situations: Dominant players are always viewed as abusing their dominance, but less dominant members of the group put up with it because they don't have much choice. That's life. No enormous secret is going to be revealed, and behavior won't change. Or maybe an enormous secret will be revealed, but I don't think so. snip In the end, though, none of that will matter to a court case, which will be determined on technical considerations that will probably leave all of us shaking our heads in bewilderment. It's the prospect of such an outcome, hard on the heels of the Microsoft grand waste of taxpayer resources, that leaves me unenthusiastic about seeing more productive resources going into the pockets of lawyers who will settle nothing. Microsoft is more profitable than ever. M$ had *no* real tangible competitor. By the time the court case rolled around it was too late for even the alternate network companies. And why do you imagine the AMD case against Intel will be any more successful? AMD has the clearly better product. Even the companies which have been victims of the rackets have decided to rail against the "cease & desist"... except Intel's retail arm: Dell. That's funny. AMD is going to win a court case because it "clearly has a better product." RM |
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