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Main ATX motherboard Power socket question
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Can someone tell me if it's OK to plug in a 20pin Power cable into a 24pin socket on this mainboard? http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...ame=GA-P35-DS4 I have been told i can but just want to confirm it's OK. This is my PSU which is ATX version 2.03 and ATX 12V V1.2 compatible. http://www.ultraproducts.com/product...roductID=3 03 Also, would there be any benefit in getting using a 20pin to 24pin converter? Thanks |
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Haymish Pupkin wrote:
Hi Can someone tell me if it's OK to plug in a 20pin Power cable into a 24pin socket on this mainboard? http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...ame=GA-P35-DS4 I have been told i can but just want to confirm it's OK. This is my PSU which is ATX version 2.03 and ATX 12V V1.2 compatible. http://www.ultraproducts.com/product...roductID=3 03 Also, would there be any benefit in getting using a 20pin to 24pin converter? Thanks Maybe, if the extra pins are all in parallel with their respective mates. Also you will be supply power over fewer(effectively smaller) cables than the board requires. This is not a great idea. Use a 24 conductor cable power supply. |
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:59:02 GMT, "Haymish Pupkin"
wrote: Hi Can someone tell me if it's OK to plug in a 20pin Power cable into a 24pin socket on this mainboard? http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...ame=GA-P35-DS4 I have been told i can but just want to confirm it's OK. Yes it's ok. The *extra* 4 pins are to allow for higher current on the already existing rails provided by the first 20 pins. If you were building something particularly power-hungry that was powered entirely from the motherboard (used no addt'l connectors like video cards often do) it would make the most difference but in general today's average system can run acceptibly with only 20 pin connector. This is my PSU which is ATX version 2.03 and ATX 12V V1.2 compatible. http://www.ultraproducts.com/product...roductID=3 03 That power supply is questionable, Ultra overrates their products for a peak, not sustained output. Rated for 16A on 12V rail it is equivalent to most branded 300W PSU though with lower quality in some respects. If your system is modestly endowed the PSU may work acceptibly for awhile but I would not use it if you install one of yesteryear's or today's more power hungry video cards - let alone two video cards or a lot of hard drives. Also, would there be any benefit in getting using a 20pin to 24pin converter? No |
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"kony" wrote in message ... On Sat, 26 May 2007 18:59:02 GMT, "Haymish Pupkin" wrote: Hi Can someone tell me if it's OK to plug in a 20pin Power cable into a 24pin socket on this mainboard? http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...ame=GA-P35-DS4 I have been told i can but just want to confirm it's OK. Yes it's ok. The *extra* 4 pins are to allow for higher current on the already existing rails provided by the first 20 pins. If you were building something particularly power-hungry that was powered entirely from the motherboard (used no addt'l connectors like video cards often do) it would make the most difference but in general today's average system can run acceptibly with only 20 pin connector. This is my PSU which is ATX version 2.03 and ATX 12V V1.2 compatible. http://www.ultraproducts.com/product...roductID=3 03 That power supply is questionable, Ultra overrates their products for a peak, not sustained output. Rated for 16A on 12V rail it is equivalent to most branded 300W PSU though with lower quality in some respects. If your system is modestly endowed the PSU may work acceptibly for awhile but I would not use it if you install one of yesteryear's or today's more power hungry video cards - let alone two video cards or a lot of hard drives. Sorry the specs on mine differ from the specs on the site for some reason. These are the figures displayed on my box. The +12VDC is a little stronger. +3.3VDC 18A +5VDC 30A +12VDC 19A -12VDC 0.6A -5VDC 0.6A +5VSB 2.0A I was going to use it with this spec: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 motherboard Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.86ghz & stock cooler Seagate 7200.10 320GB SATAII/300 8.5ms 7200RPM 16MB Cache 2 x 1GB Corsair (CM2X1024-5400C4) DDR2-5300/5400 (667/675MHz) CASE ASONIC XCLIO Server case 5X5.25 6X3.5 2xfloppy 2, 8" fans, temp lcd and leds, possible 12" fan 1 x Lite-on 16 X DVD-ROM SHD-16P1S 1 x Lite-on DVD-Writer SHM-165P6S and one of these Point Of View 7600GT 256mb DDR3 DVI HDTV TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card X1650Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card X1950Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card I was hoping to overclock the cpu to near 3ghz if possible. Motherboard says it's OK with 20pins and I have a 4pin 12V from PSU to MB and could convert 2 molex to the PCIe 12V socket on the motherboard if required. What chance do I have? Also, would there be any benefit in getting using a 20pin to 24pin converter? No |
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Can someone tell me if it's OK to plug in a 20pin Power cable into a
24pin socket on this mainboard? I was going to use it with this spec: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 motherboard Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.86ghz & stock cooler Seagate 7200.10 320GB SATAII/300 8.5ms 7200RPM 16MB Cache 2 x 1GB Corsair (CM2X1024-5400C4) DDR2-5300/5400 (667/675MHz) CASE ASONIC XCLIO Server case 5X5.25 6X3.5 2xfloppy 2, 8" fans, temp lcd and leds, possible 12" fan 1 x Lite-on 16 X DVD-ROM SHD-16P1S 1 x Lite-on DVD-Writer SHM-165P6S and one of these Point Of View 7600GT 256mb DDR3 DVI HDTV TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card X1650Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card X1950Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card I was hoping to overclock the cpu to near 3ghz if possible. Uhm... your going to do all the above and then cheap out on a power supply? SPEND THE MONEY! |
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"Noozer" wrote in message news:C516i.224247$6m4.87557@pd7urf1no... Can someone tell me if it's OK to plug in a 20pin Power cable into a 24pin socket on this mainboard? I was going to use it with this spec: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 motherboard Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.86ghz & stock cooler Seagate 7200.10 320GB SATAII/300 8.5ms 7200RPM 16MB Cache 2 x 1GB Corsair (CM2X1024-5400C4) DDR2-5300/5400 (667/675MHz) CASE ASONIC XCLIO Server case 5X5.25 6X3.5 2xfloppy 2, 8" fans, temp lcd and leds, possible 12" fan 1 x Lite-on 16 X DVD-ROM SHD-16P1S 1 x Lite-on DVD-Writer SHM-165P6S and one of these Point Of View 7600GT 256mb DDR3 DVI HDTV TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card X1650Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card X1950Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card I was hoping to overclock the cpu to near 3ghz if possible. Uhm... your going to do all the above and then cheap out on a power supply? SPEND THE MONEY! Thing is I already have this PSU and it's never been used. Only needs to work for a few months while I save up for a better one. The other option is to ebay the PSU and get another but not sure how much I'd get for it in the UK. Anyone suggest a cheap PSU that would cope and be OK for a few years (UK supplier needed). I might want to add a second hard in a few months time. More memory and a quad cpu in a few years time and there's a slight possibility of a second graphics card in a few years too. Thanks |
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 20:22:14 GMT, "Haymish Pupkin"
wrote: This is my PSU which is ATX version 2.03 and ATX 12V V1.2 compatible. http://www.ultraproducts.com/product...roductID=3 03 That power supply is questionable, Ultra overrates their products for a peak, not sustained output. Rated for 16A on 12V rail it is equivalent to most branded 300W PSU though with lower quality in some respects. If your system is modestly endowed the PSU may work acceptibly for awhile but I would not use it if you install one of yesteryear's or today's more power hungry video cards - let alone two video cards or a lot of hard drives. Sorry the specs on mine differ from the specs on the site for some reason. These are the figures displayed on my box. The +12VDC is a little stronger. +3.3VDC 18A +5VDC 30A +12VDC 19A -12VDC 0.6A -5VDC 0.6A +5VSB 2.0A If this were the rating on, say a PC Power & Cooling or Fortron PSU, it would be more appropriate for the system. As it is, you may find it works for long enough to get some value out of it, but ideally it would be reserved for a less (presumably) important system, like to replace an old Pentium 3 era system's PSU. I was going to use it with this spec: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 motherboard Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.86ghz & stock cooler Seagate 7200.10 320GB SATAII/300 8.5ms 7200RPM 16MB Cache 2 x 1GB Corsair (CM2X1024-5400C4) DDR2-5300/5400 (667/675MHz) CASE ASONIC XCLIO Server case 5X5.25 6X3.5 2xfloppy 2, 8" fans, temp lcd and leds, possible 12" fan 1 x Lite-on 16 X DVD-ROM SHD-16P1S 1 x Lite-on DVD-Writer SHM-165P6S and one of these Point Of View 7600GT 256mb DDR3 DVI HDTV TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card X1650Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card X1950Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card I was hoping to overclock the cpu to near 3ghz if possible. The easy answer is get a better PSU, though you might be able to use that one for awhile, even long term if the system doesn't continously run at high load and you're lucky enough that the fan doesn't fail (or it's periodically relubed) and whole system cooling is enough that (the PSU) runs cool. Motherboard says it's OK with 20pins and I have a 4pin 12V from PSU to MB and could convert 2 molex to the PCIe 12V socket on the motherboard if required. What chance do I have? Use the PCIe socket. The main limitions will then be the PSU itself. In another post you wrote "cheap" but you are wanting something that is an improvement if you replace the current PSU. Unfortunately if cheap PSU were good, nobody would pay more for more expensive PSU. Along with the cost of other components the system budget needs to cover the less exciting parts like a quality PSU. You might go ahead and try using that Ultra but it is a gamble and may need replaced anyway. If it is really new/unused you might see if you can sell it, perhaps on ebay then take the proceeds and apply towards something else. |
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Main ATX motherboard Power socket question
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.86ghz & stock cooler Seagate 7200.10 320GB SATAII/300 8.5ms 7200RPM 16MB Cache 2 x 1GB Corsair (CM2X1024-5400C4) DDR2-5300/5400 (667/675MHz) CASE ASONIC XCLIO Server case 5X5.25 6X3.5 2xfloppy 2, 8" fans, temp lcd and leds, possible 12" fan 1 x Lite-on 16 X DVD-ROM SHD-16P1S 1 x Lite-on DVD-Writer SHM-165P6S and one of these Point Of View 7600GT 256mb DDR3 DVI HDTV TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card X1650Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card X1950Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card I was hoping to overclock the cpu to near 3ghz if possible. Uhm... your going to do all the above and then cheap out on a power supply? SPEND THE MONEY! Thing is I already have this PSU and it's never been used. Only needs to work for a few months while I save up for a better one. Uhm... DUH! Why do you need TWO optical drives? There's a few buck there. Also, if you can afford the X1950, then why can't you afford the PSU? Put it this way... You build the PC, it works great. Two weeks later the PSU pops and takes your mainboard, memory and video card with it. Feel better that you saved $100? |
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"Noozer" wrote in message news:5c26i.225599$aG1.169366@pd7urf3no... Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 motherboard Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.86ghz & stock cooler Seagate 7200.10 320GB SATAII/300 8.5ms 7200RPM 16MB Cache 2 x 1GB Corsair (CM2X1024-5400C4) DDR2-5300/5400 (667/675MHz) CASE ASONIC XCLIO Server case 5X5.25 6X3.5 2xfloppy 2, 8" fans, temp lcd and leds, possible 12" fan 1 x Lite-on 16 X DVD-ROM SHD-16P1S 1 x Lite-on DVD-Writer SHM-165P6S and one of these Point Of View 7600GT 256mb DDR3 DVI HDTV TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card X1650Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card X1950Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card I was hoping to overclock the cpu to near 3ghz if possible. Uhm... your going to do all the above and then cheap out on a power supply? SPEND THE MONEY! Thing is I already have this PSU and it's never been used. Only needs to work for a few months while I save up for a better one. Uhm... DUH! Why do you need TWO optical drives? There's a few buck there. Also, if you can afford the X1950, then why can't you afford the PSU? I already have the case, optical drives, PSU and memory. The X1950 is a bit of a dream really. Would the PSU really kill the motherboard etc? Put it this way... You build the PC, it works great. Two weeks later the PSU pops and takes your mainboard, memory and video card with it. Feel better that you saved $100? |
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"kony" wrote in message ... On Sat, 26 May 2007 20:22:14 GMT, "Haymish Pupkin" wrote: This is my PSU which is ATX version 2.03 and ATX 12V V1.2 compatible. http://www.ultraproducts.com/product...roductID=3 03 That power supply is questionable, Ultra overrates their products for a peak, not sustained output. Rated for 16A on 12V rail it is equivalent to most branded 300W PSU though with lower quality in some respects. If your system is modestly endowed the PSU may work acceptibly for awhile but I would not use it if you install one of yesteryear's or today's more power hungry video cards - let alone two video cards or a lot of hard drives. Sorry the specs on mine differ from the specs on the site for some reason. These are the figures displayed on my box. The +12VDC is a little stronger. +3.3VDC 18A +5VDC 30A +12VDC 19A -12VDC 0.6A -5VDC 0.6A +5VSB 2.0A If this were the rating on, say a PC Power & Cooling or Fortron PSU, it would be more appropriate for the system. As it is, you may find it works for long enough to get some value out of it, but ideally it would be reserved for a less (presumably) important system, like to replace an old Pentium 3 era system's PSU. I was going to use it with this spec: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 motherboard Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.86ghz & stock cooler Seagate 7200.10 320GB SATAII/300 8.5ms 7200RPM 16MB Cache 2 x 1GB Corsair (CM2X1024-5400C4) DDR2-5300/5400 (667/675MHz) CASE ASONIC XCLIO Server case 5X5.25 6X3.5 2xfloppy 2, 8" fans, temp lcd and leds, possible 12" fan 1 x Lite-on 16 X DVD-ROM SHD-16P1S 1 x Lite-on DVD-Writer SHM-165P6S and one of these Point Of View 7600GT 256mb DDR3 DVI HDTV TV Out PCI-E Graphics Card X1650Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card X1950Pro 256MB GDDR3 DVI TVO HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card I was hoping to overclock the cpu to near 3ghz if possible. The easy answer is get a better PSU, though you might be able to use that one for awhile, even long term if the system doesn't continously run at high load and you're lucky enough that the fan doesn't fail (or it's periodically relubed) and whole system cooling is enough that (the PSU) runs cool. Motherboard says it's OK with 20pins and I have a 4pin 12V from PSU to MB and could convert 2 molex to the PCIe 12V socket on the motherboard if required. What chance do I have? Use the PCIe socket. The main limitions will then be the PSU itself. In another post you wrote "cheap" but you are wanting something that is an improvement if you replace the current PSU. Unfortunately if cheap PSU were good, nobody would pay more for more expensive PSU. Along with the cost of other components the system budget needs to cover the less exciting parts like a quality PSU. You might go ahead and try using that Ultra but it is a gamble and may need replaced anyway. When I say cheap I mean the cheapest PSU that people would be happy to use for a system like this that will last a few years and be well within tolerances. I don't want a 1500W monster or flashy lights 50 rails or to pay 40% extra for a brand name when there are good alternatives. If it is really new/unused you might see if you can sell it, perhaps on ebay then take the proceeds and apply towards something else. I think I might sell it but what to get instead... |
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