Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?

I've seen one person post at HardOCP that they were refused activation of
OEM XP. He did get it activated by calling back and talking to someone
else
but with retail upgrade XP I don't have to be concernedd about that ever
happening. An extra twenty bucks is nothing to me.

Last I checked, OEM XP Pro SP2 was about 60 bucks less than Upgrade OEM XP
Pro SP2, at newegg prices. -Dave

It's odd that microsoft allows this, then.

They don't, people lie when they call to get OEM XP activated and just say
it is on the same PC.

Define "the same PC". According to Microsoft's definition, if your
mainboard changes brands, your mainboard changes chipsets, your CPU changes
brands (intel/amd or amd/intel), and your hard drive was replaced, it is
still the same PC. -Dave

but with retail upgrade XP I don't have to be concernedd about
that ever happening. An extra twenty bucks is nothing to me.

Last I checked, OEM XP Pro SP2 was about 60 bucks less than
Upgrade OEM XP Pro SP2, at newegg prices. -Dave


Nothing times three is still nothing.

/

"John Doe" wrote in message
...
but with retail upgrade XP I don't have to be concernedd about
that ever happening. An extra twenty bucks is nothing to me.

Last I checked, OEM XP Pro SP2 was about 60 bucks less than
Upgrade OEM XP Pro SP2, at newegg prices. -Dave


Nothing times three is still nothing.

/

three times the air volume.......

Crispy Critter wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Crispy Critter wrote
Mike T. wrote

It's odd that microsoft allows this, then.

They don't, people lie when they call to get OEM
XP activated and just say it is on the same PC.

Wrong, as always.

OK, in your case you probably say my HDD got infected with a virus.

Pathetic, really.

There are many BS reasons one can give
but if you're smart you don't tell the truth.

Wrong, as always.

I know of one other person besides the one I already mentioned
who was almost refused a reactivation for telling the truth.

The technical term for that is 'pathetically inadequate sample'

Retail Upgrade version is the way to go you cheap bastages.

Depends entirely on the price difference, cretin.

On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 07:14:58 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

Matt wrote:
Mike T. wrote:
date system cost Windows cost (Windows cost)/(system cost)
================================================== ==============
1996 $2500 $50 (W95) 1/50
2001 1000 50 (XP) 1/20
2007 600 100 (Vista) 1/ 6

If you want MS Office or even just MS Word, the numbers get a lot
worse.

That indicates an increasing motivation to use free software,
especially for big installations.

Where can you get Vista for only $100? That's a heckuva bargain,
considering some versions cost well over three hundred bucks, or so
the experts claim in their reviews . . . -Dave

Question is---how much is OEM Vista going to cost Dell or HP when they put
it on a new system? My guess was $100---maybe about twice what they
used to pay for XP. Somebody please improve on my guess by posting a link.

No one knows yet because it aint being shipped yet. So there can be no link.

As you like to say, "bare faced lie".

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2012348,00.asp

That was as of 5 Sept. 2006

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Good judgement comes with experience.
Unfortunately a lot of that comes from bad judgement.

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J. Conners wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Matt wrote
Mike T. wrote

date system cost Windows cost (Windows cost)/(system cost)
================================================
1996 $2500 $50 (W95) 1/50
2001 1000 50 (XP) 1/20
2007 600 100 (Vista) 1/ 6

If you want MS Office or even just MS Word, the numbers get a lot worse.

That indicates an increasing motivation to use
free software, especially for big installations.

Where can you get Vista for only $100? That's a heckuva
bargain, considering some versions cost well over three
hundred bucks, or so the experts claim in their reviews . . .

Question is---how much is OEM Vista going to cost Dell or HP when they
put it on a new system? My guess was $100---maybe about twice what they
used to pay for XP. Somebody please improve on my guess by posting a link.

No one knows yet because it aint being shipped yet. So there can be no link.

As you like to say, "bare faced lie".

We'll see...

And it aint a lie if its just wrong.

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2012348,00.asp

Useless on that question of what it will cost
Dell or HP when they put it on a new system.

That was as of 5 Sept. 2006

Still useless on the price being discussed.

On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:48:41 -0500, ToolPackinMama wrote:

Brian wrote:
On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:25:03 -0500, ToolPackinMama wrote:


Brian wrote:

On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:12:22 -0500, ToolPackinMama wrote:



Windows is good for games. It's a gamer's OS. Linux is ideal for
people who use their computer for non-trivial pursuits. If you don't
care about World Of Warcraft or Half-Life 2, then you don't need
Windows at all.


Heh, hell, if you want to, you can run World of Warcraft in Linux, I
do daily.

Really? I didn't know that was possible.


Yeah, it's pretty cool.

Plus, I also run Age of Empires 2 (it's sorta old, but still fun)

Cool. Details, please.

For what? AOE 2 or World of Warcraft?

Either one is somewhat easy.

There are very easy directions for WoW he
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi....php?p=2432975

I just followed them, word for word, and within a short time, I was
running wow.

And AOE 2 is also, somewhat simple. I was able to run the setup program in
wine, and it installed.

Then I used a no-cd crack, and overrided some dlls. The links, and
directions are here (http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=147).

~brian

"Brian" someone somewhere.com wrote:

On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:48:41 -0500, ToolPackinMama wrote:

Brian wrote:

Plus, I also run Age of Empires 2 (it's sorta old, but still
fun)

Cool. Details, please.

For what? AOE 2 or World of Warcraft?

Either one is somewhat easy.

That's called "mental gymnastics".

And AOE 2 is also, somewhat simple.

Relatively speaking.

I was able to run the setup program in wine, and it installed.

"One in a million chance of a lifetime... la la la"

Then I used a no-cd crack, and overrided some dlls. The links, and
directions are here
(http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=147).

Yes. I highly recommend taking a look at that page. That will give
the average user an idea of the hell he will go through to get an
ordinary Windows program to work in Linux, after he has learned the
weirdness of the Linux interface, file structure, and program
installation.

On that page, after getting a laugh out of reading about user
frustration with the complexities, be sure to expand the Linux
distributions chart to see how many the game totally failed on after
a major waste of time trying to get it to half-work.

As if there aren't already enough problems getting complex programs
to work properly on complex personal computer systems.

Good luck.








~brian


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On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:21:00 -0500, Dave wrote:


Define "the same PC". According to Microsoft's definition, if your
mainboard changes brands, your mainboard changes chipsets, your CPU changes
brands (intel/amd or amd/intel), and your hard drive was replaced, it is
still the same PC. -Dave

Show me that definition.