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Hard disk reliability examined once mo HGST rules, Seagateis alarming
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Hard disk reliability examined once mo HGST rules, Seagate is alarming
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http://arstechnica.com/information-t...e-is-alarming/ Fark. I'll certainly be avoiding those Seagates. |
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Hard disk reliability examined once mo HGST rules,Seagate is alarming
On 1/22/2015 2:39 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
Ant wrote http://arstechnica.com/information-t...e-is-alarming/ Fark. I'll certainly be avoiding those Seagates. I still use old Seagate HDDs: 1. ST3320620AS 320 GB 2. ST310005N1A1AS-RK 1 TB 3. ST325082 3A; 250 GB 4. 12 days ago, I bought a new green Western Digital Corporation (WDC) WD20EZRX-00D8PB0 SATA HDD to replace the dying Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 (ST380011A; 7200 RPM; 80 GB; IDE) HDD in Debian/Linux box. :/ -- "The world flatters the elephant and tramples on the ant." --Indian /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. A song (i/wa)s playing on this computer: XenouX (Sebastian Scherhans) - Nectronic Beat |
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Hard disk reliability examined once mo HGST rules, Seagate is alarming
Ant wrote
Rod Speed wrote Ant wrote http://arstechnica.com/information-t...e-is-alarming/ Fark. I'll certainly be avoiding those Seagates. I still use old Seagate HDDs: I don’t. 1. ST3320620AS 320 GB 2. ST310005N1A1AS-RK 1 TB 3. ST325082 3A; 250 GB I do still use 1TB drives, Samsungs, but don’t use any of the smaller 3.5" drives anymore even tho I still have them. Still have 1TB drives in laptops. 4. 12 days ago, I bought a new green Western Digital Corporation (WDC) WD20EZRX-00D8PB0 SATA HDD to replace the dying Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 (ST380011A; 7200 RPM; 80 GB; IDE) HDD in Debian/Linux box. I've been avoiding WD drives for years now, only bought Samsungs, but now that they are gone, I'll get HGSTs if I need more drives. Not likely I will any time soon tho, I decided it was mad to keep buying new drives for the PVR files I never get around to watching and that it makes more sense to just dump the stuff I never get around to watching instead. |
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Hard disk reliability examined once mo HGST rules, Seagate is alarming
In article , Ant
wrote: On 1/22/2015 2:39 PM, Rod Speed wrote: Ant wrote http://arstechnica.com/information-t...k-reliability- examined-once-more-hgst-rules-seagate-is-alarming/ Fark. I'll certainly be avoiding those Seagates. I still use old Seagate HDDs: 1. ST3320620AS 320 GB 2. ST310005N1A1AS-RK 1 TB 3. ST325082 3A; 250 GB 4. 12 days ago, I bought a new green Western Digital Corporation (WDC) WD20EZRX-00D8PB0 SATA HDD to replace the dying Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 (ST380011A; 7200 RPM; 80 GB; IDE) HDD in Debian/Linux box. :/ I'm still using the original 6GB drive that shipped with my G3 PowerMac about 16 years ago with no problems. I did also add a 120GB drive for my documents about ten or so years ago when the original started running out of space. :-) On the other hand, over the years I have replaced quite a few failed hard drives in G3 CRT iMacs for clients (in one case at least twice), or they've decided to buy a new computer. Could be a design flaw in the CRT iMac making a heat build-up which adds to drive failure rates. |
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Hard disk reliability examined once mo HGST rules, Seagateis alarming
On 01/22/2015 10:14 AM, Ant wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/information-t...e-is-alarming/ "Backblaze operates disks outside of the manufacturer's specified parameters. Avoid doing that. My Seagates are doing fine. |
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Hard disk reliability examined once mo HGST rules, Seagateis alarming
On 01/23/2015 04:52 PM, Ant wrote:
4. 12 days ago, I bought a new green Western Digital Corporation (WDC) WD20EZRX-00D8PB0 SATA HDD to replace the dying Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 (ST380011A; 7200 RPM; 80 GB; IDE) HDD in Debian/Linux box. You might want to check whether your new drive has the absurdly short 8 second timeout that unloads the heads and causes the Load_Cycle_Count (SMART attribute 225) to increase rapidly under Linux. Google "WDidle3" for details. There is a Linux package "idle3-tools" to adjust or disable that timer. The only benefit from unloading the heads is a fraction of a Watt decrease in power consumption in the idle state. -- Bob Nichols AT comcast.net I am "RNichols42" |
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Hard disk reliability examined once mo HGST rules, Seagateis alarming
On 1/23/2015 7:46 PM, cjt wrote:
On 01/22/2015 10:14 AM, Ant wrote: http://arstechnica.com/information-t...e-is-alarming/ "Backblaze operates disks outside of the manufacturer's specified parameters. Avoid doing that. My Seagates are doing fine. For consumer drives, yes. I still heed what they say as I buy 10 new hard drives a year. Mostly SSDs now though. Lynn |
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Hard disk reliability examined once mo HGST rules, Seagate is alarming
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Robert Nichols wrote: On 01/23/2015 04:52 PM, Ant wrote: 4. 12 days ago, I bought a new green Western Digital Corporation (WDC) WD20EZRX-00D8PB0 SATA HDD to replace the dying Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 (ST380011A; 7200 RPM; 80 GB; IDE) HDD in Debian/Linux box. You might want to check whether your new drive has the absurdly short 8 second timeout that unloads the heads and causes the Load_Cycle_Count (SMART attribute 225) to increase rapidly under Linux. Google "WDidle3" for details. There is a Linux package "idle3-tools" to adjust or disable that timer. The only benefit from unloading the heads is a fraction of a Watt decrease in power consumption in the idle state. It's not just a Linux problem, but any system not explicitly working around WD's never-ending defective firmware. A lot of their drives spin up and down every few seconds, causing computer hangs and early disk failure. -- I will not see posts from astraweb, theremailer, dizum, or google because they host Usenet flooders. |
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Hard disk reliability examined once mo HGST rules, Seagate is alarming
In article , Kevin
McMurtrie wrote: In article , Robert Nichols wrote: On 01/23/2015 04:52 PM, Ant wrote: 4. 12 days ago, I bought a new green Western Digital Corporation (WDC) WD20EZRX-00D8PB0 SATA HDD to replace the dying Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 (ST380011A; 7200 RPM; 80 GB; IDE) HDD in Debian/Linux box. You might want to check whether your new drive has the absurdly short 8 second timeout that unloads the heads and causes the Load_Cycle_Count (SMART attribute 225) to increase rapidly under Linux. Google "WDidle3" for details. There is a Linux package "idle3-tools" to adjust or disable that timer. The only benefit from unloading the heads is a fraction of a Watt decrease in power consumption in the idle state. It's not just a Linux problem, but any system not explicitly working around WD's never-ending defective firmware. A lot of their drives spin up and down every few seconds, causing computer hangs and early disk failure. I added a Western Digital 120GB drive to my G3 PowerMac years ago and it's never had any problems. These drive failure problems are likely partly due to bad computer design causing over-heating, and partly due to the ever-increasing capacity (trying to squeeze more and more data into the same physical space). |
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