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Using an old dual CPU server as a gaming PC?
Paul wrote:
Get yourself an ESD strap, and strap in. Paul Working next to a pot of boiling water helps a lot too! The kitchen doesn't have any carpet either! |
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The power supply noise issue is patched for now. Below is a repost about
the subject, to complement this thread and so I can find the information easier if I need it later. Now onto the J10 jig. -- Using 5 V (as someone suggested) works. Very quiet, could be higher voltage (if there were some intermediate supply voltage between 5 and 12 V). Simple to test. Just cut the two fan-connector V+ wires (see the picture and description below) and connect the fan side of those wires to a 5 V floppy power connector. Leaving the ground and signal wires untouched and connected. So, Yes, all that matters is the power supply fan feedback signal be present. Doesn't require the fan spinning at full 12 V speed. I guess it's just that cheap, thankfully. Should work while my room is cool, at least long for my purpose. I'll regularly test the air (temperature) coming out of it. OF COURSE THIS ISN'T WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR AND COULD CAUSE A FIRE. Don't try this at home. I wrote: https://www.flickr.com/photos/275322...n/photostream/ Looking at the two 3 pin fan connectors on the lower left. The leftmost connector. From right to left. Black is ground. Red is 12 V. Apparently yellow is the return signal wire. The right connector. Same orientation, from right to left. Gray is ground. Orange is 12 V. Apparently purple is the return signal wire. |
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/27532210@N04/
Two pics of the riser card next to the slots (should be the first two pics). They included an extra riser card, attached to the one being used. -- Paul wrote in : John Doe wrote: It has an x16 slot. That's what the riser is plugged into, with its tail fin plugged into J10. I'm not going to use that riser, it's going to be pulled out of there. It will be used just to determine where J10's outputs go. Well, what I'm worried about, is they did something like this.... | | | | ----- ---------- ^ x8 riser out | / ^ --------------------- | 8 of 16 lanes / | | | | J10 | | | | | | ----- ------------- Mobo power from ^ x16 mobo (planar) 20-pin ATX connector | Power pins not connected They might also make the x16 mobo slot a "regular" one, and the power section at the end could be connected in parallel. But a guess would be, they avoided having to run power routing layers over to the x16 power section, relying on J10 and riser resources to route the power. Perhaps it's because there are potentially more riser slots than input power busses, that they added J10 to give more parallel paths. The idea is to get enough ampacity, have enough pins on the input side of the riser, to power all the slot power pins on the output side. So that's where my ohmmeter would go next. Buzzing the 3.3V and 12V pins of the x16 slot and seeing whether there is continuity to the 20-pin connector or not. It doesn't answer the question of copper track ampacity, just proves they didn't completely cut that path as shown above. It would make more sense to run all the powers in parallel, in which case, you'd have no trouble running your card. If it was like this, it improves the odds of not actually needing J10. The power section on the x16 then carries 3.3V @ 3A, 12V @ 2A, and the PCI Express AUX carries 12V @ X amps. | | | | ----- ---------- ^ x8 riser out | | ^ ----------------------+ | 8 of 16 lanes / | | | | | -- | J10 | | | | | \__ GTX goes here | ----- ------------- / Mobo power from ^ x16 mobo (planar) -- 20-pin ATX connector | Power pins connected HTH, Paul |
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Using an old dual CPU server as a gaming PC?
John Doe wrote:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/27532210@N04/ Two pics of the riser card next to the slots (should be the first two pics). They included an extra riser card, attached to the one being used. If you use the x16 slot on the motherboard directly for a video card, won't the x4 which is right next to the x16 conflict with the mechanical details of the video card heel lock ? You might still need some sorta small vertical riser to get the video card clear of obstacles like that. The video card "heel" might fit within the gap provided by the x4 connector, but the thickness of the end box of each PCI Express connector, is not going to fit in the gap on the video card, between heel and fingers. I'm looking for a solution here, that doesn't require sawing up the video card :-) Paul |
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Paul wrote in :
John Doe wrote: https://www.flickr.com/photos/27532210@N04/ Two pics of the riser card next to the slots (should be the first two pics). They included an extra riser card, attached to the one being used. If you use the x16 slot on the motherboard directly for a video card, won't the x4 which is right next to the x16 conflict with the mechanical details of the video card heel lock ? The video card would cover all of the SAT a slots, too. I'm using a 2u riser card/board (a right angle adapter). To raise the video card up out of the case. Hopefully it's high enough so that I don't need to cut the huge hole in the case. I just got the 2u riser card, it's sitting over there in the package, screaming "Take me out and look!" -- You might still need some sorta small vertical riser to get the video card clear of obstacles like that. The video card "heel" might fit within the gap provided by the x4 connector, but the thickness of the end box of each PCI Express connector, is not going to fit in the gap on the video card, between heel and fingers. I'm looking for a solution here, that doesn't require sawing up the video card :-) Paul |
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/27532210@N04/?
That's the 2u riser sitting in the case. I might go with the chassis open for a while. The riser is not high enough for the card to sit facing downwards on top of the chassis. I just want to get something going. Now I will see where the J10 outputs go to on the stock 1u riser. Thanks for the interest/help. |
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Maximum sustained wattage during PassMark is 175 W. Peak is about 180 W.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/27532210@N04/? PassMark, server, L5630, onboard video, Raptor (7500 RPM) Seems memory score should be higher, but look at the CPU score and notice the 2 x CPU clock speed (2.13 GHz). It's a 40 W package. That's about what I expected, not worried about the composite score, the video kills it (as we will see if and when the GTX 960 is installed). -- I wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/371543511693? http://www.ebay.com/itm/301325754598? I wanted only 12 GB of RAM, a multiple of six modules (2 GB). But since they are 4 GB modules, I will sell 24 GB (half) of it. Should be easy, since apparently memory is very expensive for that motherboard. Don't know what they're doing, apparently somehow they get 4 GB modules cheap. Without the riser card, the GFX 960 video card would block all of the SATA ports. Hope I get this right... |
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The riser card and GTX 960 are installed and apparently functioning
properly. It's hooked up to a CRT monitor. I guess it will still run benchmarks half decently. Will see. https://www.flickr.com/photos/27532210@N04/? I wrote: This is just fascinating me. Apparently only for people who can build stuff. That's what I was looking for. Otherwise, everybody would be doing it. https://youtu.be/epIlB49SNTI?t=474 There he is self-critical about his system, but if you zoom in and look at the specs, you will notice it's running at 2.5 GHz. There are cheap Xeon CPUs available running much faster than that. This is thrilling... But must avoid the pitfalls. Lots of research ahead. Wish I could do it with my Q9550s. But it looks like basically the same thing, except having to buy them again. |
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If you know offhand, Paul, should the faceplate the grounded to the
case? Or are all the other ground connections good enough? Thanks. |
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Posted the Passmark results. Probably not a great test, but it's
something. I might do some 3DMark or PCMark too. Maximum short-term wattage (for the whole system, measured at the plug) was 230 W during that test. Peak was about 240 W. Go figure. I wrote: The riser card and GTX 960 are installed and apparently functioning properly. It's hooked up to a CRT monitor. I guess it will still run benchmarks half decently. Will see. https://www.flickr.com/photos/27532210@N04/? I wrote: This is just fascinating me. Apparently only for people who can build stuff. That's what I was looking for. Otherwise, everybody would be doing it. https://youtu.be/epIlB49SNTI?t=474 There he is self-critical about his system, but if you zoom in and look at the specs, you will notice it's running at 2.5 GHz. There are cheap Xeon CPUs available running much faster than that. This is thrilling... But must avoid the pitfalls. Lots of research ahead. Wish I could do it with my Q9550s. But it looks like basically the same thing, except having to buy them again. |
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