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Need a Better, Beefier Video Card
Monica wrote:
Like pacca, mine too is a 375w power supply. Looking a Newegg and narrowing the search to Free Shipping/nVidia chipset/price $100-$200/1GB RAM, I get 7 results. I don't recognize how they brand these cards anymore. Any comments/suggestions? If it matters, my monitor is Dell 2005FPW http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...eId=1&name=1GB Monica "William R. Walsh" m wrote in message ... Hi! I have a XPS 420 running XP SP3. I'm maxed out on system RAM at 3GB. Core Quad Q660 @ 2.40GHz I'm very certain the power supply will handle the load. Dell was still using quality power supplies at the time your system was produced, and they were conservatively rated. I expect that you'll find at least a 305 watt supply underhood, and yes, it will be printed on the label when you open the cover. (In fact, the 305 watt unit I'm used to seeing in various systems really looks to me like it would be good for 450 watts based on a cursory examination.) I have some ATI video cards. They're fine. But as much as I like AMD and their products, I'm afraid that I'm slightly partial to nVidia. I woud say that nVidia has a better driver policy, as they tend to support older chipsets for quite a while and I find their drivers site to be more friendly than that of ATI/AMD. William Im running a Geforce 6800 Ultra in my Dimension 9200 (XPS 410) quad core Q6600, no problems at all handling this huge video card. brad |
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I've renewed my interest in making video slideshows using Photodex's Proshow
Producer. My ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro is doing a pretty good job but I do tend to get some stuttering or jerkiness with some slide styles and transistions. The user forum at the Proshow website say I probably need a better video card. Course it's never that simple. I have a XPS 420 running XP SP3. I'm maxed out on system RAM at 3GB. Core Quad Q660 @ 2.40GHz Here are some comments made concerning my future purchase of a new card: What size power supply do you have? Some higher end video cards today require that besides the card being plugged in to your motherboard they also be plugged in to the power supply as they need more power than video cards of old. So I need to know what size my power supply is and if it can handle the card I choose. Will this information be on the power supply where I can see it if I remove the case cover? Yes, $150 to $200 should get you a very nice video card. One word of warning do some research on the brands and models and try to find one that has stable drivers. I purchased an Nvidia Quadro FX3800 a year ago ($900) and I am still trying to get stable drivers. I would look again at ATI I would also look for 1GB of DDR3 Ram if possible, but no less than 512MB. Video cards are going to become more and more important as this is where we will start seeing our speed increases coming from instead of the CPU. CPU's are just about at their max, GPU's however can really make a difference. A word of caution. I would be careful to keep within the voltage parameters of your current power supply. Your particular budget will afford you a very nice card (I'm partial to NVIDIA cards myself), but I'm not sure that your power supply is up to the task of supporting some of the more powerful cards that you would be able to buy. Many of these cards need to be powered by separate power connectors from the power supply as the PCI bus does not natively supply sufficient voltages. I would suggest contacting Dell and ask them for a recommendation for a video card upgrade that your particular model and power supply will support. Of course I have more confidence in you guys than the people hired by Dell! Could you help me out here please? And if I can spend less on a card to do what I need to do, that would be great too. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated! All this is more confusing to me than it used to be! I wish my brain and I were on speaking terms again! Monica |
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I have xps 420 with Q6600 processor same as yours ,power supply is 375 watt
, I personally like ATI video cards. "Monica" wrote in message ... I've renewed my interest in making video slideshows using Photodex's Proshow Producer. My ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro is doing a pretty good job but I do tend to get some stuttering or jerkiness with some slide styles and transistions. The user forum at the Proshow website say I probably need a better video card. Course it's never that simple. I have a XPS 420 running XP SP3. I'm maxed out on system RAM at 3GB. Core Quad Q660 @ 2.40GHz Here are some comments made concerning my future purchase of a new card: What size power supply do you have? Some higher end video cards today require that besides the card being plugged in to your motherboard they also be plugged in to the power supply as they need more power than video cards of old. So I need to know what size my power supply is and if it can handle the card I choose. Will this information be on the power supply where I can see it if I remove the case cover? Yes, $150 to $200 should get you a very nice video card. One word of warning do some research on the brands and models and try to find one that has stable drivers. I purchased an Nvidia Quadro FX3800 a year ago ($900) and I am still trying to get stable drivers. I would look again at ATI I would also look for 1GB of DDR3 Ram if possible, but no less than 512MB. Video cards are going to become more and more important as this is where we will start seeing our speed increases coming from instead of the CPU. CPU's are just about at their max, GPU's however can really make a difference. A word of caution. I would be careful to keep within the voltage parameters of your current power supply. Your particular budget will afford you a very nice card (I'm partial to NVIDIA cards myself), but I'm not sure that your power supply is up to the task of supporting some of the more powerful cards that you would be able to buy. Many of these cards need to be powered by separate power connectors from the power supply as the PCI bus does not natively supply sufficient voltages. I would suggest contacting Dell and ask them for a recommendation for a video card upgrade that your particular model and power supply will support. Of course I have more confidence in you guys than the people hired by Dell! Could you help me out here please? And if I can spend less on a card to do what I need to do, that would be great too. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated! All this is more confusing to me than it used to be! I wish my brain and I were on speaking terms again! Monica |
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Hi!
I have a XPS 420 running XP SP3. I'm maxed out on system RAM at 3GB. Core Quad Q660 @ 2.40GHz I'm very certain the power supply will handle the load. Dell was still using quality power supplies at the time your system was produced, and they were conservatively rated. I expect that you'll find at least a 305 watt supply underhood, and yes, it will be printed on the label when you open the cover. (In fact, the 305 watt unit I'm used to seeing in various systems really looks to me like it would be good for 450 watts based on a cursory examination.) I have some ATI video cards. They're fine. But as much as I like AMD and their products, I'm afraid that I'm slightly partial to nVidia. I woud say that nVidia has a better driver policy, as they tend to support older chipsets for quite a while and I find their drivers site to be more friendly than that of ATI/AMD. William |
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Like pacca, mine too is a 375w power supply.
Looking a Newegg and narrowing the search to Free Shipping/nVidia chipset/price $100-$200/1GB RAM, I get 7 results. I don't recognize how they brand these cards anymore. Any comments/suggestions? If it matters, my monitor is Dell 2005FPW http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...eId=1&name=1GB Monica "William R. Walsh" m wrote in message ... Hi! I have a XPS 420 running XP SP3. I'm maxed out on system RAM at 3GB. Core Quad Q660 @ 2.40GHz I'm very certain the power supply will handle the load. Dell was still using quality power supplies at the time your system was produced, and they were conservatively rated. I expect that you'll find at least a 305 watt supply underhood, and yes, it will be printed on the label when you open the cover. (In fact, the 305 watt unit I'm used to seeing in various systems really looks to me like it would be good for 450 watts based on a cursory examination.) I have some ATI video cards. They're fine. But as much as I like AMD and their products, I'm afraid that I'm slightly partial to nVidia. I woud say that nVidia has a better driver policy, as they tend to support older chipsets for quite a while and I find their drivers site to be more friendly than that of ATI/AMD. William |
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On 9/29/2010 1:15 AM, Monica wrote:
Like pacca, mine too is a 375w power supply. Looking a Newegg and narrowing the search to Free Shipping/nVidia chipset/price $100-$200/1GB RAM, I get 7 results. I don't recognize how they brand these cards anymore. Any comments/suggestions? If it matters, my monitor is Dell 2005FPW http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...eId=1&name=1GB Monica "William R. ech.com wrote in message ... Hi! I have a XPS 420 running XP SP3. I'm maxed out on system RAM at 3GB. Core Quad Q660 @ 2.40GHz I'm very certain the power supply will handle the load. Dell was still using quality power supplies at the time your system was produced, and they were conservatively rated. I expect that you'll find at least a 305 watt supply underhood, and yes, it will be printed on the label when you open the cover. (In fact, the 305 watt unit I'm used to seeing in various systems really looks to me like it would be good for 450 watts based on a cursory examination.) I have some ATI video cards. They're fine. But as much as I like AMD and their products, I'm afraid that I'm slightly partial to nVidia. I woud say that nVidia has a better driver policy, as they tend to support older chipsets for quite a while and I find their drivers site to be more friendly than that of ATI/AMD. William nVidia sells chips, a reference design for manufacturing, and driver set to any company with apparent contractual terms relating to product quality. I have seen cards with nVidia chips manufactured by third parties with no fan, a cheap tiny fan, and a monster honking fan so large that the card needs two slots of capacity in a motherboard chassis. So which brand of nVidia card to buy? Of the brands on the newegg web site at just after midnight on September 30, PNY and Gigabyte have long manufactured other products of good quality. I know little about eVGA and XFX, whose cards show up a lot lately. I have been mightily put off by anything made by MSI after they manufactured a lot of motherboards with bad capacitors a few years ago, helping to kill IBM's desktop computer business. The other brands are unknown to me, and probably are a crapshoot. Perhaps someone else can enlighten us... Ben Myers |
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I'd rather eat a bowl of bugs than try to have a conversation (chat or
phone) with DELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They no nothing and/or won't let me speak to anyone that DOES! THIS is why I come here for help One person, via (Upgrade) chat, said that my system CAN HANDLE this card: EVGA 01G-P3-1158-TR GeForce GTS 250, 1024MB DDR3, PCI Express 2.0 (2) Dual Link DVI, SLI Ready Then he connected me to tech chat who told me I was connected with the wrong ts. Gave me a phone number to call and those people hang up on you when you tell them you're not buying a card from Dell. Then someone on the Proshow forum said: Today's video cards are power hungry. Unfortunately, the GTS 250 has a 450w and 24A requirement (CAN'T HANDLE) Word of caution: Before buying any video card check it's power requirements and make sure that it does not exceed the capacity of your power supply. So can someone tell me what specs to look for? Will my XPS 420 with 3GB system ram and a 375w power supply handle DDR3 (higher)? PCI Express 2? 1GB video ram? Monica "Ben Myers" wrote in message ... On 9/29/2010 1:15 AM, Monica wrote: Like pacca, mine too is a 375w power supply. Looking a Newegg and narrowing the search to Free Shipping/nVidia chipset/price $100-$200/1GB RAM, I get 7 results. I don't recognize how they brand these cards anymore. Any comments/suggestions? If it matters, my monitor is Dell 2005FPW http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...eId=1&name=1GB Monica "William R. ech.com wrote in message ... Hi! I have a XPS 420 running XP SP3. I'm maxed out on system RAM at 3GB. Core Quad Q660 @ 2.40GHz I'm very certain the power supply will handle the load. Dell was still using quality power supplies at the time your system was produced, and they were conservatively rated. I expect that you'll find at least a 305 watt supply underhood, and yes, it will be printed on the label when you open the cover. (In fact, the 305 watt unit I'm used to seeing in various systems really looks to me like it would be good for 450 watts based on a cursory examination.) I have some ATI video cards. They're fine. But as much as I like AMD and their products, I'm afraid that I'm slightly partial to nVidia. I woud say that nVidia has a better driver policy, as they tend to support older chipsets for quite a while and I find their drivers site to be more friendly than that of ATI/AMD. William nVidia sells chips, a reference design for manufacturing, and driver set to any company with apparent contractual terms relating to product quality. I have seen cards with nVidia chips manufactured by third parties with no fan, a cheap tiny fan, and a monster honking fan so large that the card needs two slots of capacity in a motherboard chassis. So which brand of nVidia card to buy? Of the brands on the newegg web site at just after midnight on September 30, PNY and Gigabyte have long manufactured other products of good quality. I know little about eVGA and XFX, whose cards show up a lot lately. I have been mightily put off by anything made by MSI after they manufactured a lot of motherboards with bad capacitors a few years ago, helping to kill IBM's desktop computer business. The other brands are unknown to me, and probably are a crapshoot. Perhaps someone else can enlighten us... Ben Myers |
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This is a card I am (was) considering. You guys say that the 375w power
supply is stronger than what it's rated? Dell's website recommends a 400W power supply for this graphic's card. ATI Radeon HD 5500, 1GB, DDR3, PCI Express. What do you think? Is it safe? http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...18244#Overview "Monica" wrote in message ... I'd rather eat a bowl of bugs than try to have a conversation (chat or phone) with DELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They no nothing and/or won't let me speak to anyone that DOES! THIS is why I come here for help One person, via (Upgrade) chat, said that my system CAN HANDLE this card: EVGA 01G-P3-1158-TR GeForce GTS 250, 1024MB DDR3, PCI Express 2.0 (2) Dual Link DVI, SLI Ready Then he connected me to tech chat who told me I was connected with the wrong ts. Gave me a phone number to call and those people hang up on you when you tell them you're not buying a card from Dell. Then someone on the Proshow forum said: Today's video cards are power hungry. Unfortunately, the GTS 250 has a 450w and 24A requirement (CAN'T HANDLE) Word of caution: Before buying any video card check it's power requirements and make sure that it does not exceed the capacity of your power supply. So can someone tell me what specs to look for? Will my XPS 420 with 3GB system ram and a 375w power supply handle DDR3 (higher)? PCI Express 2? 1GB video ram? Monica "Ben Myers" wrote in message ... On 9/29/2010 1:15 AM, Monica wrote: Like pacca, mine too is a 375w power supply. Looking a Newegg and narrowing the search to Free Shipping/nVidia chipset/price $100-$200/1GB RAM, I get 7 results. I don't recognize how they brand these cards anymore. Any comments/suggestions? If it matters, my monitor is Dell 2005FPW http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...eId=1&name=1GB Monica "William R. ech.com wrote in message ... Hi! I have a XPS 420 running XP SP3. I'm maxed out on system RAM at 3GB. Core Quad Q660 @ 2.40GHz I'm very certain the power supply will handle the load. Dell was still using quality power supplies at the time your system was produced, and they were conservatively rated. I expect that you'll find at least a 305 watt supply underhood, and yes, it will be printed on the label when you open the cover. (In fact, the 305 watt unit I'm used to seeing in various systems really looks to me like it would be good for 450 watts based on a cursory examination.) I have some ATI video cards. They're fine. But as much as I like AMD and their products, I'm afraid that I'm slightly partial to nVidia. I woud say that nVidia has a better driver policy, as they tend to support older chipsets for quite a while and I find their drivers site to be more friendly than that of ATI/AMD. William nVidia sells chips, a reference design for manufacturing, and driver set to any company with apparent contractual terms relating to product quality. I have seen cards with nVidia chips manufactured by third parties with no fan, a cheap tiny fan, and a monster honking fan so large that the card needs two slots of capacity in a motherboard chassis. So which brand of nVidia card to buy? Of the brands on the newegg web site at just after midnight on September 30, PNY and Gigabyte have long manufactured other products of good quality. I know little about eVGA and XFX, whose cards show up a lot lately. I have been mightily put off by anything made by MSI after they manufactured a lot of motherboards with bad capacitors a few years ago, helping to kill IBM's desktop computer business. The other brands are unknown to me, and probably are a crapshoot. Perhaps someone else can enlighten us... Ben Myers |
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My XPS420 shipped with an HD3870X2 and a 425watt ps
John On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 13:05:17 -0500, "Monica" wrote: This is a card I am (was) considering. You guys say that the 375w power supply is stronger than what it's rated? Dell's website recommends a 400W power supply for this graphic's card. ATI Radeon HD 5500, 1GB, DDR3, PCI Express. What do you think? Is it safe? http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...18244#Overview "Monica" wrote in message ... I'd rather eat a bowl of bugs than try to have a conversation (chat or phone) with DELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They no nothing and/or won't let me speak to anyone that DOES! THIS is why I come here for help One person, via (Upgrade) chat, said that my system CAN HANDLE this card: EVGA 01G-P3-1158-TR GeForce GTS 250, 1024MB DDR3, PCI Express 2.0 (2) Dual Link DVI, SLI Ready Then he connected me to tech chat who told me I was connected with the wrong ts. Gave me a phone number to call and those people hang up on you when you tell them you're not buying a card from Dell. Then someone on the Proshow forum said: Today's video cards are power hungry. Unfortunately, the GTS 250 has a 450w and 24A requirement (CAN'T HANDLE) Word of caution: Before buying any video card check it's power requirements and make sure that it does not exceed the capacity of your power supply. So can someone tell me what specs to look for? Will my XPS 420 with 3GB system ram and a 375w power supply handle DDR3 (higher)? PCI Express 2? 1GB video ram? Monica "Ben Myers" wrote in message ... On 9/29/2010 1:15 AM, Monica wrote: Like pacca, mine too is a 375w power supply. Looking a Newegg and narrowing the search to Free Shipping/nVidia chipset/price $100-$200/1GB RAM, I get 7 results. I don't recognize how they brand these cards anymore. Any comments/suggestions? If it matters, my monitor is Dell 2005FPW http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...eId=1&name=1GB Monica "William R. ech.com wrote in message ... Hi! I have a XPS 420 running XP SP3. I'm maxed out on system RAM at 3GB. Core Quad Q660 @ 2.40GHz I'm very certain the power supply will handle the load. Dell was still using quality power supplies at the time your system was produced, and they were conservatively rated. I expect that you'll find at least a 305 watt supply underhood, and yes, it will be printed on the label when you open the cover. (In fact, the 305 watt unit I'm used to seeing in various systems really looks to me like it would be good for 450 watts based on a cursory examination.) I have some ATI video cards. They're fine. But as much as I like AMD and their products, I'm afraid that I'm slightly partial to nVidia. I woud say that nVidia has a better driver policy, as they tend to support older chipsets for quite a while and I find their drivers site to be more friendly than that of ATI/AMD. William nVidia sells chips, a reference design for manufacturing, and driver set to any company with apparent contractual terms relating to product quality. I have seen cards with nVidia chips manufactured by third parties with no fan, a cheap tiny fan, and a monster honking fan so large that the card needs two slots of capacity in a motherboard chassis. So which brand of nVidia card to buy? Of the brands on the newegg web site at just after midnight on September 30, PNY and Gigabyte have long manufactured other products of good quality. I know little about eVGA and XFX, whose cards show up a lot lately. I have been mightily put off by anything made by MSI after they manufactured a lot of motherboards with bad capacitors a few years ago, helping to kill IBM's desktop computer business. The other brands are unknown to me, and probably are a crapshoot. Perhaps someone else can enlighten us... Ben Myers |
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JCR wrote in message ... My XPS420 shipped with an HD3870X2 and a 425watt ps John On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 13:05:17 -0500, "Monica" wrote: This is a card I am (was) considering. You guys say that the 375w power supply is stronger than what it's rated? Dell's website recommends a 400W power supply for this graphic's card. ATI Radeon HD 5500, 1GB, DDR3, PCI Express. What do you think? Is it safe? http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...18244#Overview "Monica" wrote in message ... I'd rather eat a bowl of bugs than try to have a conversation (chat or phone) with DELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They no nothing and/or won't let me speak to anyone that DOES! THIS is why I come here for help One person, via (Upgrade) chat, said that my system CAN HANDLE this card: EVGA 01G-P3-1158-TR GeForce GTS 250, 1024MB DDR3, PCI Express 2.0 (2) Dual Link DVI, SLI Ready Then he connected me to tech chat who told me I was connected with the wrong ts. Gave me a phone number to call and those people hang up on you when you tell them you're not buying a card from Dell. Then someone on the Proshow forum said: Today's video cards are power hungry. Unfortunately, the GTS 250 has a 450w and 24A requirement (CAN'T HANDLE) Word of caution: Before buying any video card check it's power requirements and make sure that it does not exceed the capacity of your power supply. So can someone tell me what specs to look for? Will my XPS 420 with 3GB system ram and a 375w power supply handle DDR3 (higher)? PCI Express 2? 1GB video ram? Monica "Ben Myers" wrote in message ... On 9/29/2010 1:15 AM, Monica wrote: Like pacca, mine too is a 375w power supply. Looking a Newegg and narrowing the search to Free Shipping/nVidia chipset/price $100-$200/1GB RAM, I get 7 results. I don't recognize how they brand these cards anymore. Any comments/suggestions? If it matters, my monitor is Dell 2005FPW http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...eId=1&name=1GB Monica "William R. ech.com wrote in message ... Hi! I have a XPS 420 running XP SP3. I'm maxed out on system RAM at 3GB. Core Quad Q660 @ 2.40GHz I'm very certain the power supply will handle the load. Dell was still using quality power supplies at the time your system was produced, and they were conservatively rated. I expect that you'll find at least a 305 watt supply underhood, and yes, it will be printed on the label when you open the cover. (In fact, the 305 watt unit I'm used to seeing in various systems really looks to me like it would be good for 450 watts based on a cursory examination.) I have some ATI video cards. They're fine. But as much as I like AMD and their products, I'm afraid that I'm slightly partial to nVidia. I woud say that nVidia has a better driver policy, as they tend to support older chipsets for quite a while and I find their drivers site to be more friendly than that of ATI/AMD. William nVidia sells chips, a reference design for manufacturing, and driver set to any company with apparent contractual terms relating to product quality. I have seen cards with nVidia chips manufactured by third parties with no fan, a cheap tiny fan, and a monster honking fan so large that the card needs two slots of capacity in a motherboard chassis. So which brand of nVidia card to buy? Of the brands on the newegg web site at just after midnight on September 30, PNY and Gigabyte have long manufactured other products of good quality. I know little about eVGA and XFX, whose cards show up a lot lately. I have been mightily put off by anything made by MSI after they manufactured a lot of motherboards with bad capacitors a few years ago, helping to kill IBM's desktop computer business. The other brands are unknown to me, and probably are a crapshoot. Perhaps someone else can enlighten us... Ben Myers |
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