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Getting a large screen(55 to 60 inch) monitor
The usage will be for training staff via MS-PowerPoint presentations,
spreadsheets and MS-Word documents. It has to be TV capable so that a cable connection from Comcast will allow viewing news from Comcast as well as ability to connect to the Internet. It also should be able to connect to a computer/laptop for the training sessions. Panel type can be IPS(In-Plane Switching), backlit can be white, refresh rate can be 60Hz, and 1920 X 1080 resolution should be fine for our needs(training seminars and watching news via cable TV or browsing the Web). Budget is 2K. 1. Would monitors from common brands(LG, Samsung, Sony etc.) suffice for our needs? 2. Will a product like LG Electronics 55LN5700 55-Inch 1080p 120Hz LED-LCD HDTV with Smart TV http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics...dp/B00BB9OPUA/ do for our need? Or, a model like http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL60EX64...dp/B008XG1N7M/ Sony KDL60EX645 60-Inch 1080p 120HZ Internet Slim LED HDTV (Black) would be OK? 3. What are other factors I need to consider? Any suggestions would be appreciated. |
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On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:11:32 -0400, t wrote:
The usage will be for training staff via MS-PowerPoint presentations, spreadsheets and MS-Word documents. It has to be TV capable so that a cable connection from Comcast will allow viewing news from Comcast as well as ability to connect to the Internet. It also should be able to connect to a computer/laptop for the training sessions. Panel type can be IPS(In-Plane Switching), backlit can be white, refresh rate can be 60Hz, and 1920 X 1080 resolution should be fine for our needs(training seminars and watching news via cable TV or browsing the Web). Budget is 2K. 1. Would monitors from common brands(LG, Samsung, Sony etc.) suffice for our needs? 2. Will a product like LG Electronics 55LN5700 55-Inch 1080p 120Hz LED-LCD HDTV with Smart TV http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics...dp/B00BB9OPUA/ do for our need? Or, a model like http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL60EX64...dp/B008XG1N7M/ Sony KDL60EX645 60-Inch 1080p 120HZ Internet Slim LED HDTV (Black) would be OK? 3. What are other factors I need to consider? Any suggestions would be appreciated. well dude, I just set up my 55" RCA I got from walmart for half the price. awesome. |
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Getting a large screen(55 to 60 inch) monitor
t wrote:
The usage will be for training staff via MS-PowerPoint presentations, spreadsheets and MS-Word documents. It has to be TV capable so that a cable connection from Comcast will allow viewing news from Comcast as well as ability to connect to the Internet. It also should be able to connect to a computer/laptop for the training sessions. Panel type can be IPS(In-Plane Switching), backlit can be white, refresh rate can be 60Hz, and 1920 X 1080 resolution should be fine for our needs(training seminars and watching news via cable TV or browsing the Web). Budget is 2K. 1. Would monitors from common brands(LG, Samsung, Sony etc.) suffice for our needs? 2. Will a product like LG Electronics 55LN5700 55-Inch 1080p 120Hz LED-LCD HDTV with Smart TV http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics...dp/B00BB9OPUA/ do for our need? Or, a model like http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL60EX64...dp/B008XG1N7M/ Sony KDL60EX645 60-Inch 1080p 120HZ Internet Slim LED HDTV (Black) would be OK? 3. What are other factors I need to consider? Any suggestions would be appreciated. You should take a look through a forum like this one. They will review and comment on, a lot of this sort of stuff. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1132659/th...nch-pc-monitor ******* If the viewing angle of the display is not stated, it's probably an LCD using a TN panel. IPS has around a 178 degree viewing angle (where 180 degrees is "perfect"). TN is less than that, maybe 160 degrees. And generally, the vertical viewing angle is pretty bad (as you move your head up and down, the color changes). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid-crystal_display The main advantage of IPS is viewing angle. In a classroom setting, it would allow students on the left and right, in the first row, to see the same colors on the screen, as the other students are seeing. With TN, it's possible the students would need to move to the seats in the middle of the classroom. The problem is, I don't know if they make large panel IPS. It might stop with computer monitors, for all I know. And IPS pixels are slow to respond. TN less so. But IPS might be preferred for Photoshop work. ******* You can get manuals. http://www.lg.com/us/support-product/lg-55LW5700# There is a manual and a spec sheet. It supports native 1920x1080 @ 60Hz for the PC. ("RGB (PC), HDMI (PC) supported mode"). The RGB appears to be related to a VGA connector on the back. (They don't seem to be able to mention VGA in polite company for some reason.) http://www.lg.com/lgecs.downloadFile....pdf&TC=DwnCmd http://www.lg.com/us/products/docume...700%20Spec.pdf ******* Richard may have been joking when he mentioned the Walmart, but there's nothing like seeing the unit in person before purchase. I have one home theater store in town, which has a few display rooms with gear setup in them. In there, perhaps you can look at the viewing angle issue, and see what you think. If there is a TN panel based unit on display, you can walk from left to right, and see what the students will be seeing. My home theater store would likely have Plasma displays set up. Also, a pet peeve about this stuff, is any store you visit, will *always* put video on the screen. Never text. Seeing text on the screen (like an MS Word document), shows all the defects in the display, and is the real test. Any ole piece of crap can display video, because the human eye is so forgiving. Once you see text on the screen, you'll "run out the door". (If you're desperate to review this aspect, take a laptop and an HDMI cable with you, and ask for a "PC mode" demo. That way, you'll be able to do dual screen and put up text. Because otherwise, the unhelpful sales people will pretend they have no means to put text on the screen for comparison.) Since the unit above (the one I checked the manuals on), has a 1920x1080 display and supports 1920x1080 mode on PC input, at least you won't get a fuzzy PC display due to scaling. Earlier units, for some reason, would not provide a 1:1 mode on PC input. They do now, and it's something you can check for. On older units, the panel might be 1366, and the PC input would stop at 1280, which looked awful. Paul |
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If you are serious about presentations, why not get the Sony 4k TV? Oh,
and a good lock. Fry's has the Sony on display, but the demo material sure is crappy. There is also some throw away Chinese or Taiwanese 4k TV. http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Te...ng-and-Preview |
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I was not joking about the tv.
I had a look at the amazon units and from those prices, I'd say I got a hell of a deal. since mine is only a few feet away from me, I'm not all that worried about viewing it from all angles as you would be in a class room setting. But according to your specs for a decent one, this puppy meets them. As for use with a PC as a monitor, it's a hell of a lot cheaper than a dedicated monitor. I checked the prices on them and all I gotta say is, "ripoff!". |
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richard teh retarded (NOT "Richard, the 'HEY, me NOT retarded'"
who posts as if he's in the UK) dumbassed this one : I was not joking about the tv. I had a look at the amazon units and from those prices, I'd say I got a hell of a deal. since mine is only a few feet away from me, I'm not all that worried about viewing it from all angles as you would be in a class room setting. But according to your specs for a decent one, this puppy meets them. As for use with a PC as a monitor, it's a hell of a lot cheaper than a dedicated monitor. I checked the prices on them and all I gotta say is, "ripoff!". Walmart has them "on sale" because they were outlawed and recalled in Canada because they give you eyeball cancer, occipital lobe herpes and they have a history of bursting into flames in the middle of the night; apparently after you turn them off and go to sleep. "Caveat WTF, It was CHEAP!" - The mantra which keeps China in business... -- I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and , if "they" want to suspend, amend or add a codicil to the 4th Amendment... Well, there's a procedure to do that : A joint resolution and then certify it to the states for 75% ratification - NOT "let's open a dialog" of rationalizations and platitudes! "All your phone calls are belong to us!" -- NSA |
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Getting a large screen(55 to 60 inch) monitor
Evan Platt wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:37:45 -0400, richard wrote: well dude, I just set up my 55" RCA I got from walmart for half the price. awesome. What 55" RCA did you get from Walmart for $500? From the OP: "Budget is 2K." -- They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Ben Franklin |
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richard wrote:
As for use with a PC as a monitor, it's a hell of a lot cheaper than a dedicated monitor. That's because it is NOT a monitor. A typical TV has nothing like the resolution of a computer monitor . If your usage is mainly watching DVDs, YouTube videos, that sort of thing then a TV is perfectly adequate. However if you read a lot of text online you are better of with a monitor as text can be difficult to read on a TV. |
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Getting a large screen(55 to 60 inch) monitor
"G. Morgan" wrote in message ... Evan Platt wrote: On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:37:45 -0400, richard wrote: well dude, I just set up my 55" RCA I got from walmart for half the price. awesome. What 55" RCA did you get from Walmart for $500? From the OP: "Budget is 2K." Looks like a good deal @ $698 RCA 55" Class LED 1080p 120Hz HDTV, LED55B55R120Q: a.. 55" LED panel With 1920 x 1080 full HD resolution b.. True 16:9 aspect ratio View your movies as the director intended c.. Wide 176-degree vertical and 176-degree horizontal angles See a clear picture from anywhere in the room d.. Built-in digital tuner Watch digital broadcasts, including HDTV programs where available e.. High brightness of 400 cd/m2 Get a great picture f.. 5,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio g.. HDMI Inputs: 4 Enjoy a superior HD experience with HDMI one-cable solution h.. 54.6" screen measured diagonally from corner to corner |
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Getting a large screen(55 to 60 inch) monitor
Ferd Berfle wrote:
"G. Morgan" wrote in message ... Evan Platt wrote: On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:37:45 -0400, richard wrote: well dude, I just set up my 55" RCA I got from walmart for half the price. awesome. What 55" RCA did you get from Walmart for $500? From the OP: "Budget is 2K." Looks like a good deal @ $698 RCA 55" Class LED 1080p 120Hz HDTV, LED55B55R120Q: a.. 55" LED panel With 1920 x 1080 full HD resolution b.. True 16:9 aspect ratio View your movies as the director intended c.. Wide 176-degree vertical and 176-degree horizontal angles See a clear picture from anywhere in the room d.. Built-in digital tuner Watch digital broadcasts, including HDTV programs where available e.. High brightness of 400 cd/m2 Get a great picture f.. 5,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio g.. HDMI Inputs: 4 Enjoy a superior HD experience with HDMI one-cable solution h.. 54.6" screen measured diagonally from corner to corner http://reviews.walmart.com/1336/2061...ws/reviews.htm "Great picture for a portrait but not motion. The colors are vibrant and its super thin ill give it that but when the objects or people move during a movie or show they blur every time. " So perhaps the 176 degree viewing angle, comes at the price of response speed (like, if the panel was a member of the IPS in-plane-switching panel types). The listed response time for it is "Response Time: 4.5ms". Which could be GTG. It would likely be great for the "MS-PowerPoint presentations", less so for watching Comcast. If they had it in-store to look at, that would be great too. Just to see what the money can buy you. ******* http://www.target.com/p/lg-55-class-...0/-/A-14491527 Response Time: 1ms Response Time They could have made that up though, because that info is not listed on the LG site. No way for me to verify it. Amazing to have to go to Target, to find out. Most specs for LCDs are formulated to be dishonest, so I wouldn't read too much into that number. That's why an in-person appraisal is important, because you really cannot rely on simple numbers, to tell you whether the thing "makes people blur". It could be the blur comes from the picture processing chip inside the unit, rather than being a panel artifact. Some picture processor chips, overdo it, and add all sorts of artifacts, depending on input content. ******* http://www.avsforum.com/t/1444311/of...645-thread/150 "A concern since purchasing the 60ex645 has been effective viewing angle. Our sitting position is about 15 feet away from the screen. So, I placed a call to Sony support. I mentioned the picture quality degrading a lot as I stepped left or right of the edge of the screen while standing about 10 feet away. So, I asked if anything could be done (knew the answer to that one) and at what value does the PQ start falling off. Surprisingly (?), he didn't know the answer to either and I found myself on hold for about 5 minutes. When he returned, he said that degrading would occur at about 15 degrees offset from either the right or left of the screen and that the value would stay relatively consistent. So, if my h.s. trig doesn't fail me, tangent of 15 degrees is 0.267, so at 10 feet from the screen, it will start looking degraded starting at 2.67 feet from either right/left edge. At 15 feet, 4 feet, etc. No wonder, the wife is grumbling." So much for the "viewing angle 88/88", which is 176 degrees. Viewing angle is defined for a 10:1 reduction in intensity, so is seriously degraded looking edge on at the screen (duh). But the reviewers comment above, suggests it's worse than that, if it is that noticeable. http://static.highspeedbackbone.net/...%2 0Sheet.pdf Still can't find a response time for that one. You can spend hours doing these checks... The nice thing is, there's always an honest person waiting in the wings, to give the low-down. Paul |
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