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Getting new SATA drive to show up
"Cronzor" wrote in message oups.com... The "IDE Controller" in the device manager doesn't accept the drivers on the floppy. "Uninstall" the IDE controller (if you didn't try this already). Do you have any 'Other Devices' in the device manager? If so, uninstall all that appear there. I tried booting to Windows Setup and pushing F6 then using the drivers on the floppy and it seemed to work in detecting the drive (for setup purposes only)..It did, however, keep my IDE drive as C:\ in the partition list, so I aborted the installation for the time being. Now we are dealing with something you haven't explained. what are your intentions for the drive? My BIOS settings were to disable the IDE drive, so I have no idea why Windows Setup had it listed there. If I am understanding you the IDE reference bothers you because you are using SATA. Just a misnomer in the device manager. I am used to seeing third and fourth IDE references to be SATA. If I unplug the IDE drive and try that again would it see the SATA drive as C:\? Again what are your intentions? to install an OS to the SATA and slave the primary IDE? Then replug the IDE to make it D:\? Is there someplace I need to specify that the IDE shouldn't be first? depending on the bios. enter setup... Boot sequence is where you start. Normally I'd go through the whole master/slave thing but SATAs don't have that.. Thanks for continued help. |
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JAD wrote: "Cronzor" wrote in message oups.com... The "IDE Controller" in the device manager doesn't accept the drivers on the floppy. "Uninstall" the IDE controller (if you didn't try this already). Do you have any 'Other Devices' in the device manager? If so, uninstall all that appear there. The only unusual thing added by putting in the HDD is two instances of "IDE Channel" with the yellow exclamation mark. Uninstalling them gets rid of them but doesn't do much of anything else. Trying to install the drivers based on the stuff on the floppy does not work. I tried booting to Windows Setup and pushing F6 then using the drivers on the floppy and it seemed to work in detecting the drive (for setup purposes only)..It did, however, keep my IDE drive as C:\ in the partition list, so I aborted the installation for the time being. Now we are dealing with something you haven't explained. what are your intentions for the drive? I ultimately intend on having the SATA become my main drive with the OS installed, with the old IDE as a backup/storage. My BIOS settings were to disable the IDE drive, so I have no idea why Windows Setup had it listed there. If I am understanding you the IDE reference bothers you because you are using SATA. Just a misnomer in the device manager. I am used to seeing third and fourth IDE references to be SATA. Good to know, although I was also referring to the fact that, despite telling the bios to "DISABLE" the IDE drive (my intention being to make the SATA the new C:\ and install windows to it), Windows Setup still saw the IDE drive as C:\ If I unplug the IDE drive and try that again would it see the SATA drive as C:\? Again what are your intentions? to install an OS to the SATA and slave the primary IDE? Bingo. I'm thinking my best bet may be to unplug the IDE so it REALLY doesn't get recognized, try to get windows running on the SATA, then reinstall the IDE and pray from there. Thoughts? Then replug the IDE to make it D:\? Is there someplace I need to specify that the IDE shouldn't be first? depending on the bios. enter setup... Boot sequence is where you start. Normally I'd go through the whole master/slave thing but SATAs don't have that.. Thanks for continued help. |
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Getting new SATA drive to show up
"Cronzor" wrote in message ups.com... JAD wrote: "Cronzor" wrote in message oups.com... The "IDE Controller" in the device manager doesn't accept the drivers on the floppy. "Uninstall" the IDE controller (if you didn't try this already). Do you have any 'Other Devices' in the device manager? If so, uninstall all that appear there. The only unusual thing added by putting in the HDD is two instances of "IDE Channel" with the yellow exclamation mark. Uninstalling them gets rid of them but doesn't do much of anything else. Trying to install the drivers based on the stuff on the floppy does not work. I tried booting to Windows Setup and pushing F6 then using the drivers on the floppy and it seemed to work in detecting the drive (for setup purposes only)..It did, however, keep my IDE drive as C:\ in the partition list, so I aborted the installation for the time being. Now we are dealing with something you haven't explained. what are your intentions for the drive? I ultimately intend on having the SATA become my main drive with the OS installed, with the old IDE as a backup/storage. My BIOS settings were to disable the IDE drive, so I have no idea why Windows Setup had it listed there. If I am understanding you the IDE reference bothers you because you are using SATA. Just a misnomer in the device manager. I am used to seeing third and fourth IDE references to be SATA. Good to know, although I was also referring to the fact that, despite telling the bios to "DISABLE" the IDE drive (my intention being to make the SATA the new C:\ and install windows to it), Windows Setup still saw the IDE drive as C:\ If I unplug the IDE drive and try that again would it see the SATA drive as C:\? I believe that you have hit on the procedure many have used to get to where you want to be. I have not 'mixed' sata with IDE. I prefer to to use the SATA alone, and have in many builds put together an USB external enclosure to incorprate the old IDE drive. Again what are your intentions? to install an OS to the SATA and slave the primary IDE? Bingo. I'm thinking my best bet may be to unplug the IDE so it REALLY doesn't get recognized, try to get windows running on the SATA, then reinstall the IDE and pray from there. Thoughts? Take out the IDE as you have talked about, this should set it up the way you want. make sure you adjust the Bios boot sequence to boot from the SATA first. Then replug the IDE to make it D:\? Is there someplace I need to specify that the IDE shouldn't be first? depending on the bios. enter setup... Boot sequence is where you start. Normally I'd go through the whole master/slave thing but SATAs don't have that.. Thanks for continued help. |
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On 4 Dec 2006 09:21:08 -0800, "Cronzor" wrote:
The "IDE Controller" in the device manager doesn't accept the drivers on the floppy. I tried booting to Windows Setup and pushing F6 then using the drivers on the floppy and it seemed to work in detecting the drive (for setup purposes only)..It did, however, keep my IDE drive as C:\ in the partition list, so I aborted the installation for the time being. My BIOS settings were to disable the IDE drive, so I have no idea why Windows Setup had it listed there. If I unplug the IDE drive and try that again would it see the SATA drive as C:\? Then replug the IDE to make it D:\? Is there someplace I need to specify that the IDE shouldn't be first? Under the Boot menu in BIOS setup is a setting called Hard Disk Drives. Move the SATA drive to the top of the list. This will cause the BIOS to boot from the SATA drive, and if it has an active primary partition, Windows setup will assign C: to it. Normally I'd go through the whole master/slave thing but SATAs don't have that.. Thanks for continued help. |
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Under the Boot menu in BIOS setup is a setting called Hard Disk
Drives. Move the SATA drive to the top of the list. This will cause the BIOS to boot from the SATA drive, and if it has an active primary partition, Windows setup will assign C: to it. Yep, I did indeed use that setting to move the SATA drive to the top, and selected "Disable" for the IDE. The SATA drive, however, is not partitioned. Maybe that's why it showed up under the IDE....I'll just disconnect it while doing all this and let you guys know how that pans out. |
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Getting new SATA drive to show up
"Cronzor" wrote in message ups.com... Under the Boot menu in BIOS setup is a setting called Hard Disk Drives. Move the SATA drive to the top of the list. This will cause the BIOS to boot from the SATA drive, and if it has an active primary partition, Windows setup will assign C: to it. Yep, I did indeed use that setting to move the SATA drive to the top, and selected "Disable" for the IDE. The SATA drive, however, is not partitioned. Maybe that's why it showed up under the IDE.... nope you disabled it from the booting sequence, not from the system. To disable the IDE you would disable the 'controller' (primary/secondary) from the main menu or possibly advanced settings. I'll just disconnect it while doing all this and let you guys know how that pans out. thing should work out fine. Do get back to us..... |
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On 5 Dec 2006 00:06:00 -0800, "Cronzor" wrote:
Under the Boot menu in BIOS setup is a setting called Hard Disk Drives. Move the SATA drive to the top of the list. This will cause the BIOS to boot from the SATA drive, and if it has an active primary partition, Windows setup will assign C: to it. Yep, I did indeed use that setting to move the SATA drive to the top, and selected "Disable" for the IDE. The SATA drive, however, is not partitioned. Maybe that's why it showed up under the IDE....I'll just disconnect it while doing all this and let you guys know how that pans out. The way to install Windows without having to monkey around with the disks is: 1. Move the SATA disk to the top of Hard Disk Drives. 2. In Windows setup, create the first partition on the SATA disk. 3. If the drive letter assigned to the just created partition is not C:, quit setup (F3-F3). 4. Boot from the Windows CD again and run setup. Since a primary partition on the SATA disk now exists, setup should assign C: to it. One thing to keep in mind when changing the physical configuration of the disks: the BIOS will reorder the disks in Hard Disk Drives to some default order, so you should always check Hard Disk Drives after messing with the disks. |
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Getting new SATA drive to show up
Sorry for the delay, been busy.
Just to say that I have created partitions for the new drive (I prefer a small partition for the OS and program files and the rest for all my junk to support easy formatting). I installed windows on the new drive and it seems to be working OK. I have yet to set it up properly (internet refuses to work, for example), but all signs look good. I set the drive order back so my old drive's functionality can keep me going while I set up the other Windows installation properly. One thing that's got me, though, is the fact that -when running with the new drive as the primary drive- it becomes C:\ and F:\, with the old IDE drive as D:\ and E:\ I'm thinking maybe that once I'm setup properly, I can wipe out the IDE and make it one large partition. Will that move the drive letter behind the SATA such that SATA = C, D, and IDE = E? Should I hold off installing any applications to the F:\ (which will become D:\ if my theory is right?) |
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