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Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?



 
 
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Old July 5th 07, 03:58 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
MachineMessiah
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Default Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570
SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more
reliable or is it better to wait a few months?
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Old July 5th 07, 04:32 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
Paul
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Default Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

MachineMessiah wrote:
Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570
SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more
reliable or is it better to wait a few months?


Now that months have passed, the Intel P965 is mature. Why not
buy one of those, if waiting is a virtue ?

If you must have the latest and greatest stuff, then expect to put
a little extra effort into it.

There are people in these forums, who have had access to P35 for a
couple months. If there are any lessons to be learned, you'll find
them here (try the "Intel" forum).

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/

An example thread...

"Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3" May14/2007
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=144199

Paul
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Old July 5th 07, 05:28 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
MachineMessiah
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Default Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

In article , says...
MachineMessiah wrote:
Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570
SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more
reliable or is it better to wait a few months?


Now that months have passed, the Intel P965 is mature. Why not
buy one of those, if waiting is a virtue ?

If you must have the latest and greatest stuff, then expect to put
a little extra effort into it.

There are people in these forums, who have had access to P35 for a
couple months. If there are any lessons to be learned, you'll find
them here (try the "Intel" forum).

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/

An example thread...

"Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3" May14/2007
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=144199

Paul

Thanks
We were looking at the asus P5K w/o the deluxe.
Not really into latest and greatest so much as hubby wants good gaming
rig. Need something that has 2 pci express x16 and takes 667 1.8v ram.
I build 2 P4 machines for myself, northwod & prescott with intel chip
sets.
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Old July 5th 07, 07:33 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
JD Cantafio
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Default Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

MachineMessiah wrote:

Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570
SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more
reliable or is it better to wait a few months?


http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mai...overclock.html


New chipsets always have quirks. That's the price for having bleeding edge
gear.

Some P35 based boards use DDR2, some DDR3. The upcoming Asus P5KC can use
either.



The Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 Rev3.3, GA-965P-DQ6, Asus Striker Extreme, and
Asus P5B Deluxe are all quality and refined motherboards.


Motherboards based on the nForce 680i chipset did have issues related to
SATA harddrives. Perhaps someone else can share their first hand
experience.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...es&btnG=Search
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Old July 5th 07, 12:52 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
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Default Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

MachineMessiah wrote:
In article , says...
MachineMessiah wrote:
Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia
nForce 570 SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from
intel any more reliable or is it better to wait a few months?


Now that months have passed, the Intel P965 is mature. Why not
buy one of those, if waiting is a virtue ?

If you must have the latest and greatest stuff, then expect to put
a little extra effort into it.

There are people in these forums, who have had access to P35 for a
couple months. If there are any lessons to be learned, you'll find
them here (try the "Intel" forum).

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/

An example thread...

"Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3"
May14/2007
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=144199

Paul

Thanks
We were looking at the asus P5K w/o the deluxe.
Not really into latest and greatest so much as hubby wants good gaming
rig. Need something that has 2 pci express x16 and takes 667 1.8v ram.
I build 2 P4 machines for myself, northwod & prescott with intel chip
sets.


http://www.intel.com/products/mother...XBX2/index.htm

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Old July 5th 07, 09:12 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
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Default Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

MachineMessiah wrote:

Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570
SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more
reliable or is it better to wait a few months?


Many people like to buy the newest/greatest new hardware. Keep in mind
that such hardware is sold before all the bugs are worked. Motherboards
have verion numbers, just like software does. Often it's best to wait 6
months before you become a BETA tester for the hew hardware.

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Old July 6th 07, 08:11 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
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Default Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?


"Paul" wrote in message ...
MachineMessiah wrote:
Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570
SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more
reliable or is it better to wait a few months?


Now that months have passed, the Intel P965 is mature. Why not
buy one of those, if waiting is a virtue ?

If you must have the latest and greatest stuff, then expect to put
a little extra effort into it.

There are people in these forums, who have had access to P35 for a
couple months. If there are any lessons to be learned, you'll find
them here (try the "Intel" forum).

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/

An example thread...

"Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3" May14/2007
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=144199

Paul


Hello Paul,
On the second link you provided, there is a nice temp monitoring tool (the
one with the blue screens). Any idea what it is or where I could find it?
Thanks in advance.


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Old July 6th 07, 09:55 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
Paul
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Default Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

ElJerid wrote:
"Paul" wrote in message ...
MachineMessiah wrote:
Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570
SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more
reliable or is it better to wait a few months?

Now that months have passed, the Intel P965 is mature. Why not
buy one of those, if waiting is a virtue ?

If you must have the latest and greatest stuff, then expect to put
a little extra effort into it.

There are people in these forums, who have had access to P35 for a
couple months. If there are any lessons to be learned, you'll find
them here (try the "Intel" forum).

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/

An example thread...

"Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3" May14/2007
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=144199

Paul


Hello Paul,
On the second link you provided, there is a nice temp monitoring tool (the
one with the blue screens). Any idea what it is or where I could find it?
Thanks in advance.



In the picture here, it says Asus AISuite, meaning it is some successor to
Asus Probe/ProbeII. (Line wrapped manually, to please my USENET host.)

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...B3/T1000UB1G5/
9x/889/StaticreadAUTO/333-555_5549_3-30-333_1.325-A-1.5-2.3-1.3-1.55-1.05/superpi-32m_dual.png

On the Asus download page, you type "tools" instead of a motherboard model
number, to get utilities listed. Versions of AiSuite are stored here. No
idea what motherboards are supported, whether a superset of ones handled
by Asus ProbeII or some truncated list of boards.

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/AiSuit/

ProbeII seems to be even bigger in size.

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/...II_V10419b.zip

Paul
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Old July 6th 07, 07:54 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
ElJerid
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Default Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?


Hello Paul,
On the second link you provided, there is a nice temp monitoring tool
(the one with the blue screens). Any idea what it is or where I could
find it?
Thanks in advance.


In the picture here, it says Asus AISuite, meaning it is some successor to
Asus Probe/ProbeII. (Line wrapped manually, to please my USENET host.)

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...B3/T1000UB1G5/

9x/889/StaticreadAUTO/333-555_5549_3-30-333_1.325-A-1.5-2.3-1.3-1.55-1.05/superpi-32m_dual.png

On the Asus download page, you type "tools" instead of a motherboard model
number, to get utilities listed. Versions of AiSuite are stored here. No
idea what motherboards are supported, whether a superset of ones handled
by Asus ProbeII or some truncated list of boards.

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/AiSuit/

ProbeII seems to be even bigger in size.

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/...II_V10419b.zip

Paul


Thanks for the effort, Paul. I checked it out bu unfortunately, the AI Suite
is indeed a new (very) extended version of Asus Probe ans runs only on
motherboard versions starting from P5xx, and not on my "antique" P4C800 DL.
Will be for my next upgrade...


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Old July 7th 07, 12:04 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
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Default Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait? Thanks for the replies everybody!

In article , lid says...
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The Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 Rev3.3, GA-965P-DQ6, Asus Striker Extreme, and
Asus P5B Deluxe are all quality and refined motherboards.

Asus Striker Extreme.
Wow, that's some board.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mai.../asus-striker-
extreme.html
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...riker_extreme/

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